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DetNews article on Norfleet

Having read this, I'm even more inclined to cheer for Dennis Norfleet:

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121224/SPORTS0201/212240344/Michiga...

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December 24th, 2012 at 7:18 AM | Someone should ask him how (Score:0 Normal)
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Someone should ask him how often people call him Northfleet.

Seeing him early in the year I had called he was going to score at least two kick return TDs this season which is tough for a first year guy. I was sad to be wrong. Excited to have him in the kick return game going forward, but now after reading that article I'm even less excited to have him in the secondary than I was.

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December 24th, 2012 at 9:38 AM | Maybe he gets two in the bowl (Score:5 Normal)
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Maybe he gets two in the bowl game?

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December 24th, 2012 at 11:41 AM | I had called he was going to (Score:1 Overrated)
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I had called he was going to score at least two kick return TDs this season which is tough for a first year guy

Why? I mean, I guess everything's tough for a first year guy, but returning kicks relies more on  natural athleticism and ability more than....well really any position. I guess it takes time to understand how your blocks are supposed to develop, but other than that I can't really see how experience helps all that much. The top 4 kick returners in the country (based on average yards) are all either sophomores or freshmen. In fact, none of the top 10 are seniors.

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December 24th, 2012 at 11:45 AM | That sort of goes along with (Score:1 Overrated)
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That sort of goes along with your point, but it seems like most guys move away from returning punts and kickoffs as they get older.  One reason is that coaches probably want to avoid getting them injured, and I think the athletically gifted players eventually find a niche at RB, WR, or DB that takes some technical development, learning the playbook, etc.

There aren't many seniors on the list, because now those guys are playing every down at a more critical position.

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December 24th, 2012 at 7:49 AM | He sounds like a great young (Score:4 Normal)
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He sounds like a great young man.  Let's see, he never gives up, he is really fast, people say he is too small for his position, and he smiles all the time.  That kind of reminds me of somebody else on the team.

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December 24th, 2012 at 8:00 AM |  I love this kids intensity. (Score:2 Normal)
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 I love this kids intensity. Before every kickoff this year you would see him waiting and talking to himself and getting all jacked up on the goal line.

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December 24th, 2012 at 8:24 AM | Sounds like a great young (Score:2)
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Sounds like a great young man.  Over coming a learning disability is extremely difficult.  If he can over come that, no doubt he can learn to play corner and be successful wherever life takes him.

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December 24th, 2012 at 8:41 AM | Great Read (Score:2)
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I'm impressed by this young man's willingness to own his shortcomings (no pun intended) and overcome them. Truth be told, I believe there are a lot of college football players with some type of learning disability that we just don't hear about. It's amazing that they get the opportunity to attend four-year colleges and receive the necessary assistance they need to succeed.

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December 24th, 2012 at 8:43 AM | Lead paint (Score:5 Normal)
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You don't hear about it often, but lead poisoning is probably one of the worst problems the City of Detroit has. Tragic how many thousands of kids have been damaged by paint chips and paint dust. I'll certainly be pulling for Northfleet--not only to do well on the field, but in the classroom as well.

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December 24th, 2012 at 9:49 AM | wrong (Score:-1 Normal)
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The worst problem Detroit has is the Lions.  Zing!

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December 24th, 2012 at 9:57 AM | The whole lead poisoning thing is sad (Score:1)
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His mom said he ate the chips. I can't imagine what that did to him internally. Good kid, great story!

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:27 PM | Eating paint chips (Score:1)
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Many osu fans suffer from the same mental issues but that it happens from being an osu fan rather than eating lead based paint chips

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/lead-poisoning/FL00068

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December 24th, 2012 at 11:00 AM | Tragic is the right word (Score:5 Normal)
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Industrial hygienist here, i'd imagine that lead is the most common and well known health issue that Detroiters (especially kids) face, but off the top of my head, i'd suspect that there are issues with a host of heavy metals, asbestos, and industrial pollutants. Some won't be found without top-flight medical care, and others have longer latency periods that will keep them hidden. I've read that the urban agriculture boom in Detroit could be problematic because of industrial contamination of the soil and uptake by garden crops (also former professional horticulturist). Heavy metals don't go away, they just recycle.

And of course the problem with these pollutants in residential areas is that removing them is time consuming and expensive. Arson and standard demolition are likely to spread rather than remove the problem.

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December 24th, 2012 at 1:01 PM | Yes, and before anyone judges (Score:3 Normal)
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Yes, and before anyone judges a kid for eating it, you should know that lead makes things taste sweet.

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December 24th, 2012 at 2:38 PM | So very sad (Score:3 Normal)
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What a wonderful woman Norfleet's grandmother is. It's great to see the strong relationship Norfleet has with her. How sad that not only his father but his mother were either absent, incompetent, incapable, irresponsible, negligent, or some combination thereof.

The statistics are brutal for the prospects of children of single mothers. Young, single motherhood is the single largest factor leading to failure in children. Children of single moms are:

  • Twice as likely to drop out of High School.
  • One and a half times as likely to be idle.
  • have a Lower GPA.
  • Lower college aspirations.
  • Poorer attendance records.
  • Higher rate of divorce.
  • 1/3 less income (higher rate of poverty.)

It would be interesting to know what percentage of Michigan students come from one or two parent households (regardless of marital status.) For Norfleet to make it out of Detroit to UofM, he already is a huge success story.

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December 24th, 2012 at 9:58 AM | Great Article... (Score:2)
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"During his senior year, Norfleet played running back, slot receiver, returned kicks and punted and kicked. Harvel told The News at the time, just "Call him Jim Thorpe."

I will say that this line made me chuckle, but in all honesty, Norfleet seems just that tenacious and team-oriented. It obviously hasn't been an easy road to Michigan, per the article, but I admire how he has lived up to his high school nickname "Pit" in the academic sense as well and worked to overcome a learning disability.

I really like the reason behind his choice of majors too - in his own words, "I want to influence kids to let them know that football is not the only way out, it's just another way to get away and enjoy doing what you're doing,"

Great read, and thanks for sharing, OP. 

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December 24th, 2012 at 10:20 AM | Hope this kid does well in life... (Score:1)
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...both on and off the field. Sounds like a great all around kid.

I really want him to take a few kicks back for TDs to make his grandmother proud, but I bet she would be even prouder if he gets his degree.

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December 24th, 2012 at 10:22 AM | Very touching story, (Score:-1 Trolling)
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but it does beg the question "How does someone who cannot read well get into Michigan?"

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December 24th, 2012 at 10:26 AM | By working through his (Score:5 Normal)
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By working through his disability and overcoming his circumstances. I'll bet Norfleet works harder than 90% of undergrads at Michigan.

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December 24th, 2012 at 10:54 AM | The Michigan Difference (Score:3 Normal)
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December 24th, 2012 at 10:34 AM | I don't get guys like you. (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't get guys like you. Are you looking for a homogenous student body?

Norfleet sounds like a wonderful young man. It sounds like he's got a plan and will do anything he can to execute it. He will be a productive member of society and make us proud to call him a fellow alumn. That's more than you can say about the bevy of "smart" students you get every year that get lost and flame out.

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December 24th, 2012 at 11:14 AM | Funny that somebody (Score:5 Normal)
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Funny that somebody questioning Norfleet's qualifications confuses the phrase "raises the question" with a technical term for a specific type of informal logical fallacy.

Glass houses, my friend. As a less snarky response, don't confuse reading disabilities with a lack of intelligence. Think about people with, say, dyslexia. They're no less intelligent on the whole than your average person, and someone with outstanding intelligence might very well not be able to read well. You might say "if you can't read well, you're gonna have a bad time", and that might be true, but doesn't the same thing apply to the blind? But yet surely you wouldn't say that no blind people should get into Michigan. We're so much more judgmental about disabilities when we can't see physical manifestations of them; we assume that they just boil down to unintelligence.

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December 24th, 2012 at 12:44 PM | I had a teacher in high (Score:3 Normal)
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I had a teacher in high school who had dyslexia. He would always spell words wrong when writing them up on the board in class, but he was very intelligent and would tell us that spelling isn't the most important thing in life. He taught functions, stats, and trig as well as physics.

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December 24th, 2012 at 11:17 AM | While we're questioning (Score:5 Normal)
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While we're questioning others' intelligence...

http://begthequestion.info/

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December 24th, 2012 at 11:34 AM | Shockingly, people can (Score:5 Normal)
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Shockingly, people can improve their lives through hard work and assistance from others, even those with learning disabilities. I'm sure it helped that Norfleet it's an elite athlete, but schools were once designed to actually help all people learn, not just those with the best skill set.

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December 24th, 2012 at 1:39 PM | I did some work with (Score:2)
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I did some work with Michigan's Services for Students with Disabilities while I was at UofM.  There are THOUSANDS of students at Michigan that have some sort of "disability." These deficiencies range from paralysis, to blindness, from ADHD, anxiety, to mild autism.  Outside of those students with ovious physical limitations there is no way to tell who these students are. Many of them are involved in research and some have gone on to law and medical schools.  It's not a question of intelligence, as many here have already mentioned.  These students just need a different way to digest/learn/obtain information before they can put it to practical use.  Standard books and notes are not for everyone.

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December 24th, 2012 at 2:38 PM | C'mon (Score:3 Normal)
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Roy Roundtree has already disproven the tired, outdated stereotype that students with learning disabilities "don't deserve to go to the University of Michigan."

Norfleet obviously had to work his ass off to get to where he is now.  If you are going to be so critical of a student like Norfleet, maybe you should consult a style manual and learn the difference between "begging a question" and raising a question.

 

 

 

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December 24th, 2012 at 10:38 AM | Good story (Score:2 Normal)
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I love seeing kids with a positive attitude, are willing to do whatever the coaches ask, and are very positive and supportive of his teammates.  I also really like his confidence and intensity for a little guy.  I recall him getting in the faces of a number of guys in the OSU game.  A true freshman that is that small playing at OSU for the first time and he was not a bit intimidated.  I like that kid.

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December 24th, 2012 at 12:07 PM | It sure is dusty in here (Score:2 Normal)
BOGEY
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Joined: 03/14/2010
MGoPoints: 146

It sure is dusty in here

GO BLUE!

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December 24th, 2012 at 12:07 PM | It sure is dusty in here (Score:1)
BOGEY
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Joined: 03/14/2010
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It sure is dusty in here

GO BLUE!

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December 24th, 2012 at 12:18 PM | Good luck to that young man. (Score:2)
Bad MotherHoker
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Good luck to that young man. Michigan has some great people associated with it's program. From the story of Quinton Washington, to the Hecklinski's battle with cancer, and now this story, it's amazing how this team and university come together for each other.

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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December 24th, 2012 at 1:44 PM | Here's hoping (Score:1)
Blue in Dallas
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MGoPoints: 127

he takes one to the house in the bowl game

"He has no idea that Charles Woodson can jump fifteen feet in the air, come down acrobatically, and get his foot inside this football field.  Folks, you can watch football a long, long time before you see another play like that."

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December 24th, 2012 at 1:59 PM | Stories like this just make (Score:1)
Smitdog6767
Joined: 11/27/2011
MGoPoints: 208

Stories like this just make me even more amazed at the quality of recruits that Brady has brought in so far.  Not only are they exceptional athletically but almost to a man, they are great, hardworking, and down to earth people.  It's guys like this that make me proud to call myself a Michigan Man.

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:17 PM | and yet he will still have (Score:1)
no joke its hoke
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and yet he will still have more bowl games.

Vice.com

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:18 PM | Why are you here? Get lost (Score:2)
wolverinenyc
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Joined: 09/18/2010
MGoPoints: 498

Why are you here? Get lost troll!

Forget about the curveball Ricky. Give him the heater...

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December 24th, 2012 at 9:03 PM | It takes a special kind of (Score:2)
WMUgoblue
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It takes a special kind of douchebag to troll a Michigan blog on Christmas Eve, congratulations on making us think all Buckeyes are assholes (although that's not the truth.)

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:07 PM | You do understand that all (Score:3 Normal)
Clarence Beeks
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You do understand that all publicly funded universities are required by federal law to make classroom and testing accommodations for individuals with disabilities, right?

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December 24th, 2012 at 3:44 PM | Its called (Score:1)
A_Train32
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Joined: 08/10/2012
MGoPoints: 169

a 504 Plan...

"Only three things can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad" -Bo Schembechler

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December 25th, 2012 at 12:43 PM | It's not considered a "504 (Score:2)
Clarence Beeks
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It's not considered a "504 Plan" once the student advances past secondary education (Subpart D v. Subpart E). The goals between the two sections/phases are completely different.

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December 24th, 2012 at 4:23 PM | (Drumroll please...) (Score:2)
ChuckieWoodson
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Joined: 01/13/2012
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Abd the Mom of the year award goes to.....!!!!??????

"Touchdown... No flags!!"

Founder and current Commisioner of the ITGPD - Internet Tough Guy Police Department, est. 2012

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