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Det News calling all UM "ex-female" athletes
July 15th, 2016 at 10:13 AM
#1
Det News calling all UM "ex-female" athletes
Unfortunate title of piece in online Det News ...
"UM makes ammends with new jackets for ex-female atheletes"
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2016...
July 15th, 2016 at 10:17 AM
#2
Well,
Well, with this jenneration you never know...
July 15th, 2016 at 10:19 AM
#3
Lock thread.
Lock thread.
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July 15th, 2016 at 10:21 AM
#4
LOL
I'd like to use that with my peers but it doesn't "speak" the same a sit "writes"!
July 15th, 2016 at 10:22 AM
#5
Oops
Accidentally upvoted myself. Oh well, what I giveth...
July 15th, 2016 at 11:17 AM
#6
Our Men were Macho
July 15th, 2016 at 1:01 PM
#7
I want to be a Macho Man...
I want to be a Macho Man...
July 15th, 2016 at 11:53 AM
#10
Which begs the question, ypsituckyboy:
If your current avatar is changed or removed for any reason, are we then going to have to refer to you as "ypsituckyperson"?
July 15th, 2016 at 1:49 PM
#11
Are you assuming his gender? Shame on you!
Are you assuming his gender? Shame on you!
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July 15th, 2016 at 4:43 PM
#12
"His" gender?
That should be "zhim", I believe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-specific_and_gender-neutral_pronouns#Summary
July 15th, 2016 at 1:52 PM
#13
zhpsitucky
zhpsitucky
July 15th, 2016 at 3:19 PM
#14
Unexpected and zesty.
Unexpected and zesty.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:19 AM
#15
Great teamwork between the Hackett/Manuel regimes
A resolution was set in motion last fall when former interim athletic director Jim Hackett and Bob De Carolis, who served as a senior adviser to Hackett, kick-started the process. When athletic director Warde Manuel was hired in late January, the project was one of the first things that crossed his desk — and he green-lighted the decision.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:21 AM
#16
What about the ones that are
What about the ones that are still female?
July 15th, 2016 at 11:51 AM
#17
My 16 year-old son
Responded to that same question as one would expect of a teenager:
"I identify as a dump truck."
For the life of me, I don't know where he learned to be such a smart-ass.
July 15th, 2016 at 12:04 PM
#18
4-Chan
most likely. There was a pretty funny rage post turned meme that originated there about someone wanting to be sexually identified as an attack helicopter.
July 15th, 2016 at 2:26 PM
#19
Yes!
My son is big follower of 4-Chan. I'm sure that's where it came from.
July 15th, 2016 at 2:33 PM
#20
My son is big follower of 4-Chan.
If you're not already, you might want to monitor that a bit. Especially if he starts spending time on 8-Chan.
July 15th, 2016 at 3:33 PM
#21
8chan
Oh, I'm sure he's been out there a time or two. I can probably view the logs of our home's router to see where he's been.
But, maybe I'd better not....
July 15th, 2016 at 12:21 PM
#22
In Ohio, they'd have to include "potato" as an option.
In Ohio, they'd have to include "potato" as an option.
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July 15th, 2016 at 12:46 PM
#23
No, the question is what they
No, the question is what they sexually IDENTIFY as, not what they're sexually ATTRACTED to.
NTTAWWT...
July 15th, 2016 at 4:57 PM
#24
TISWWT
if the picnic table of their desires is within sight of an elementary school.
http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=8083860&nav=menu63_2
Even in Ohio.
July 15th, 2016 at 5:05 PM
#25
I don't think "male" does me justice
I think "Priceless Stud, Last Hope of the Human Race" is more appropriate.
July 15th, 2016 at 12:15 PM
#26
Had a 30 minute meeting at my job about that
We were building a web portal for a youth group and I sat through an argument about not just the gender question, but if we should update our title field to include "You can just call me" to go along with Mr, Mrs, etc.
Without casting judgment, I can say that there are a lot of opinions on what used to be a simpler situation.
July 15th, 2016 at 2:31 PM
#27
My personal fave is the
My personal fave is the "preferred gender pronouns" options professors are expected to keep track of for each and every student. UM is in process on this, MSU already has it:
http://lbgtrc.msu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PGP-flyer.pdf
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July 15th, 2016 at 3:07 PM
#28
This makes a huge difference
This makes a huge difference for transgender and gender non-conforming students, and demonstrates that their school administration is making an effort to accommodate them. I'm not sure why it's seen as a negative when it barely inconveniences anyone.
July 15th, 2016 at 12:36 PM
#29
Our sons day care teacher is
Our sons day care teacher is going through a conversion from woman to man right now. The school handled it really well. Kids don't care. My only gripe was the name he picked for himself.
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July 15th, 2016 at 1:58 PM
#30
Mr. Banana? Sausage Pants?
Mr. Banana? Sausage Pants?
July 15th, 2016 at 2:11 PM
#31
Urban?
Urban?
July 15th, 2016 at 4:30 PM
#32
Damn it, it's been 4 hours.
Damn it, it's been 4 hours. Don't leave us hanging. What's name did he pick?
Pat, Chris, Robin, Jamie, Sam?
July 15th, 2016 at 5:00 PM
#33
You should seek medical attention
.
July 15th, 2016 at 8:09 PM
#34
wait I got this . . .
Brutus?
July 16th, 2016 at 7:10 PM
#35
"What gender do you identify
"What gender do you identify with?"
I'd be tempted to answer, "You mean here, or on my home planet?"
But that would probably mean a whole lot more forms to fill out.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:48 AM
#36
If chromosomes
If chromosomes could change they still probably wouldn't.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:27 AM
#37
Blue Crab, you look . . .
Blue Crab, you look . . . tasty.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:34 AM
#38
blue horseshoe likes anacott steel
blue horseshoe likes anacott steel
July 15th, 2016 at 10:43 AM
#39
What about Blue Star Airlines?
What about Blue Star Airlines?
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July 15th, 2016 at 11:23 AM
#40
Blue Horseshoe
July 15th, 2016 at 11:14 AM
#41
Beware my pincers ...
... esp. animal noses ...
July 15th, 2016 at 10:28 AM
#42
Should I be considered a
Should I be considered a bigot if I think its OK that men and women get different clothing, as long as the $ value of the jacket is comparable? Because the old jackets are actually pretty nice looking and definitly more feminine.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:40 AM
#43
Is the $ value the same if
Is the $ value the same if one has leather in it and the other doesn't? And shouldn't they at least be offered the choice? Maybe your idea of femininity isn't what one of these women thinks of.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:12 AM
#44
Probably not. I think they
Probably not. I think they should have the choice. I just don't see this as a gender rights issue, if the $ value is the same. Equality doesn't mean sameness.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:50 AM
#45
$ value isn't the only measurement
Only one is recognizable & iconic as earned by athletic efforts.
Separate but equal is inherently unequal, after all.
July 15th, 2016 at 4:42 PM
#46
Who said anything about
Who said anything about separate? I said "different", not "separate".
July 15th, 2016 at 4:44 PM
#47
I think the the leather armed
I think the the leather armed male jacket is recognizable mainly because male sports are more celebrated. You don't fix that problem by giving women the same jacket - you fix it by convincing people that women's sports are just as important and fun to watch as men's sports. When that happens, the women's jacket will become just as valuable, even though it is different.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:52 AM
#48
No, you shouldn't
You're not a bigot, you're right. This line from the article is ridiculous "Finn, who just finished her junior year, was angry when she found out that at one time women weren't awarded the same jackets, and wanted justice."
The word "justice" has no place in this discussion. It applies to much bigger issues than whether mens and womens jackets look the same.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:42 AM
#49
No justice, no fleece.
No justice, no fleece.
July 15th, 2016 at 12:51 PM
#50
For the record, the use of
For the record, the use of "justice" isn't in Finn's letter nor a direct quote from her. She refers to rectifying an inequity in her own words. She may have used the word in the discussion with the journalist, but it might also simply be the author's word.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:29 AM
#51
The main problem here is that neither jacket
has the correct shade of maize.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:12 AM
#52
Additionally, in the DetNews
Additionally, in the DetNews article the author calls the block M on the original women's varsity jackets orange. Uh, that's not orange, bruh.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:36 AM
#53
Thanks for the clarification Hatter!
As a partially colorblind man, I was like "You bastards gave them orange Block M's!" because they told me it was orange in the article. Damn colorblindess strikes again!
July 15th, 2016 at 12:29 PM
#54
Are those jackets from the same academic year?
If so, I have a hard time believing those are worth the same amount of $$$ unless the cotton on the women's jackets were sheared from organic, kosher sheep.
One thing I must ask though. Would the men's jacket be considered stylish for women back then or now? That could have been a factor in the different look.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:39 AM
#55
Looks like they fixed it.
Looks like they fixed it.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:15 AM
#56
Yea - I emailed the author after posting ...
... he said that he didn't make the title but would contact his editor.
July 15th, 2016 at 10:40 AM
#57
M and M Girls
Now filing the necessary paperwork....
July 15th, 2016 at 10:41 AM
#58
huh
huh
July 15th, 2016 at 10:44 AM
#59
What about "ex-male" athletes
What do they get?
Ur, uh, maybe.....I don't want to know.
July 15th, 2016 at 12:08 PM
#60
They get the Arthur Ashe Award For Courage on the ESPY's
July 15th, 2016 at 10:45 AM
#61
Dem Jorts do.
Dem Jorts doe.
July 15th, 2016 at 12:09 PM
#62
THANK YOU
As someone who has lived in Florida...I appreciate that you know the difference between Jorts and Jean Shorts.
Those? Those are jorts.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:13 AM
#63
That title not as bad as North Texas coffee mug fiasco
For those who haven't seen the glory that is UNT beverage holder of fame, recently gone viral...
July 15th, 2016 at 11:17 AM
#64
wish i could upvote you more
wish i could upvote you more than once for this. made me laugh out loud
July 15th, 2016 at 11:20 AM
#65
took me longer than I'd like to admit to get that
took me longer than I'd like to admit to get that one.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:51 AM
#66
You can buy "unt" mugs on
You can buy "unt" mugs on line that have nothing to do with N. Texas. I had one, but got rid of it as my daughter got old enough to figure it out. You can also buy "ock" versions if that's your thing.
July 15th, 2016 at 12:01 PM
#67
Those things were moving fast
Those things were moving fast on Ebay yesterday. The school quickly pulled them off their own website but someone obviously got a few cases of the product and was selling them for $26 a mug. They'd sold almost 100 mugs at that price.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:17 AM
#68
Glad this great injustice of
Glad this great injustice of gender equality has been rectified.
July 15th, 2016 at 11:51 AM
#69
$60K well spent. Justice has been served.
$60K well spent. Justice has been served.
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July 15th, 2016 at 11:53 AM
#70
I guess I'm not following...
I guess I'm not following...
July 15th, 2016 at 11:59 AM
#71
At least they fixed it all the way back in the early 90's
At least they fixed it all the way back in the early 90's
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July 16th, 2016 at 11:09 AM
#72
Very nice
Glad they did this.
July 16th, 2016 at 11:57 AM
#73
To be truly equal, now
To be truly equal, now doesn't everybody else need to get one of the wool ones?
