Needs more instances if them calling you a superfan.
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Needs more instances if them calling you a superfan.
If they wanted to address "Superfans" why didn't they just create an MGoAccount and post here? Silly.
One time extension! How lucky! Only for you!
But only if you call within the next 24 hours!
Will the email tomorrow offer, for callers in the next ten minutes, to get not one but TWO tickets for the price of one and you just have to pay separate processing.
If you act now, we will throw in a set of Ginseu's PLUS free shipping and handling.
Does this mean you didn't purchase tickets yet? Or is it being sent to everyone who is a superfan just cause.
Hopefully a lot of students won't buy students tickets. The only way to let them know the product and slate of games are crap is by speaking with your wallet. Take the $295 and go buy a TV to watch on instead.
The fact that we have "fans" that feel this makes me afraid for the future of Michigan athletics. Incredible.
You can't be a fan if you don't cheerfully plunk down $300 for a single student ticket, or much more if you're not a student?
Am I disqualified from being a fan now that I can no longer pay big money to attend all of the games because I live in Minnesota? This will come as a great surprise to my wife, daughters, and friends, who have actually seen the attention I give to Michigan teams.
I'm not really sure how to respond given that I didn't say anything close to what you are suggesting. Although I would generally agree that students who don't buy student tix are not fans.
Remember kids: If you can't afford tickets or don't have rich parents you're not a real fan.
I suspect there are a fair number of fans who, for whatever reason, don't buy. Of course, some who buy aren't really dedicated fans of the sport, either. One's fanhood is not dependent upon how much they are able to spend or how much they measure up to someone else's ideal of fandom.
I just wouldn't be quick to blame this on the students or to attack their fanhood. The part of your post where you worried about the future of the athletic program was actually something I agreed with, but it was hard to get past the beginning.
on this board for admitting that I stopped going to games my junior year (95-96). I'm much more devoted a fan now that I'm older. Students make many decisions, some good, some bad. There's no point in judging people on this issue. Some will regret not going to games, some won't.
I too was a bigger fan before college and a few years after college. There was a crapload more going on in college between school, work and trying to find a job. Basketball was also a top dog ('76 - '80) in those years. When I was a kid I could devote my life to fandom and now I have more time and money I can do the same.
...that I actually stopped going after the Notre Dame game of my sophmore year (except for Rose Bowls, of course). Going to the games in person just sucked up too much valuable time when I was a student.
I did, however, continue to buy season tickets. Not with an eye towards selling them but because there was also a friend who was looking for an extra ticket to the game for out-of-town buddies. I could've made a few bucks on this but I just gave them anyway gratis. Figured it was worth should I ever need to call later and ask a favor.
What if they don't buy tickets specifically because they have idenfied an arbitrage opportunity to buy them cheaper on the secondary market?
Wait, I could buy that home slate at under $40/ticket? What magical marketplace are you referring to?
Shit, you could buy all 7 home games and a trip to Columbus for $300.
there are some planning on buying tickets only to specific games because the slate sucks so badly.
...but is there even such a thing as a secondary market if nobody buys them from the primary market? Would the University dump unsold tickets on Stubhub or maybe instead give them away to local high schoolss students or charity or whatever?
My sister didn't buy tickets and will buy off stubhub to the games she wants to attend.
"Although I would generally agree that students who don't buy student tix are not fans."
$295 isn't a night out at the bar for everybody, moneybags.
Some people don't enjoy the experience in the student section. I personally don't like standing for 3 hours in sometimes bad weather getting a shitty view of the game. I can sit comfortably on my couch with a great view of the game, instant replay at my personal disposal and not have to spend $40 on a ticket.
When the Athletic Department offers me a game day experience worth the price of the football ticket, I will buy it. Until then I will continue to "not be a fan" and watch all the games on my couch.
I could not disagree more with the "students who don't buy student tix are not fans" mantra. $300 is a lot of dough for a college kid. Its a good chunk of dough for non-college kids too. If I'm going to spend that kind of money, I better be getting something good in return. A night game against PSU and a collection of crappy home games is not worth that. And just because you don't blindly plunk down the money for tickets doesn't mean you're not a fan. Blinding buying season tickets regardless of what you're getting in return makes you a sucker.
If you're looking to spend $300 to be a "fan", I'd much rather do a roadtrip with a bunch of friends to NW or OSU or MSU. It would be a much better memory, more fun, and a better use of the money.
This is really well put.
Getting up to the $300 is going to be a dealbreaker to many students. Not have the privilege of wealth does not make you less of a fan.
The Big Ten and NCAA likes to decry player unionization as the end of amateur athletics. It what way is pricing tickets like NFL teams not more of an end to amateur athletics.
Question, what is college football without college fans?
...when you consider that many students are living off of borrowered money. If they should have trouble getting a job after graduation then by the time interest compounds a bit they might have paid nearly double.
Frankly, for some of these kids today, it's simply the smart move to skip the games.
Agree outside of going to Columbus. I can't imagine ever going to game down there unless Michigan is a 10+ point favorite.
your line of thinking about Columbus since you are in the class of '16, but one of the most memorable UM-OSU games I attended was the '96 game in Columbus when UM won 13-9.
Slight difference between not buying tickets and actively hoping that nobody does. Nor did he say that makes the person not a fan, just that it scares him about the future. A sentiment I completely agree with.
We should all remember part of the reason for this crap schedule is Big Ten realignment.
On another note, for those that think Michigan would do well in a scenario where players are paid because Michigan has a lot of wealthy alumni and fans. See this thread and rethink that.
Dig up stupid!
God I hate when people question other people's fandom. There are a million reasons why people do or do not buy tickets. Who are you to pass judgment?
Give me a break.
The way I see it, you are being afforded a privilege and that email is giving you another chance to realize it. If you and your fellow students don't think the product is worth it, your ticket will be sold to an alum who will gladly fork over a lot more money than was being asked of you. You don't really think that seat will go unsold, do you?
Unless the student to alum policies have changed, your logic doesn't really apply to students. Whereas there is value in keeping your tickets in your name, for students who are only eligible for students tickets for 4 years (generally), there is less value because they aren't getting an interest in keeping the tickets in their name. As soon as they graduate, they will join the alum pool and have to buy from it. Thus, a student who is or might be struggling with money might now want to shell out 300 to watch Michigan beat up on some MAC teams or, alternatively, struggle to beat MAC teams. Just because it's a privilege doesn't mean students have to buy tickets. And I'm sure they know the tickets will be sold to alums. But if we're talking loyalty, maybe the alums the tickets get sold to should not sell them to Ohio fans whenever the team looks like it's going to get easily beat by ohio.
How much money would you be willing to gamble that there aren't similar problems in getting non-students to renew?
There very well may be, but I would raise you that there are even more people that haven't had an opportunity to purchase tickets that will gladly become new season ticket holders.
With the growing popularity of Stubhub what need is there to purchase season tickets? Are you really that insecure that you need to sit in the exact same seat for 30 years straight?
I have never understood the big thrill with being a season ticket holder. I have bought mine off the secondary market for the past 10 years.
Yep. I didn't renew my season tickets this year. It became too expensive for someone on a teacher's salary. Oh well. To stub hub I go. I bet I can get similar tickets without spending a fortune.
For decades it's been an unquestioned article of faith among many UM fans that the demand for season tickets is literally inexhaustible, and that there was no price point that would constrain demand. I think this season is going to be a significant test of that view.
I think this season is the perfect storm of last season blues, and unattractive home slate. Last year they opened up season ticket sales to people not on the PSD waiting list. This means to me they had cleared throught the PSD waiting list last summer.
I am guessing stubhub prices will be well below dynamic pricing base price this year, and they will not sell as many season tickets as they had previously.
Dave Brandon lost in the East - West realignment. Of course it is partially his fault for scheduling App State, but the movement of MSU to away in the same year as ND away and OSU away has strangled the golden goose.
Non-student tickets are not flying off the figurative shelves either. There was no season ticket waiting list last year. You've heard the people on here that are giving their tickets up. The same thing is going on outside the blog. Unless we put up 60 on Appalachain State this could be a shit show of a year.
From all the ballyhooing going on on this site before the Ohio State game, you would've thought the stadium was gonna be 90% red. Some of the more paranoid posters thought that the 100,000 streak was going to end after the Penn State game. Neither event came close to happening.
I too am of the opinion that this will be a tough year, but let's also not talk ourselves into a frenzy.
Yes, I think there is a chance that those tickets will go unsold. Remember there is no longer a waiting list for season tickets. btw I am a sheep that had been buying season tickets for 20+ years and been going to games since 1969.
They are overestimating the strength of the "brand".
Maybe they're just a bit below their expected totals and want to bring a few more into the fold. This could be a minor issue, and a courtesy to the "most loyal" fans whom they would expect to renew.
Or this could be a symptom of a serious problem that combines general apathy regarding the state of the team, rapidly growing costs of attendance, and a pitiful schedule against a struggling football conference.
I'm starting to wonder if it's the latter. This will only amplify the pressure on Hoke to produce this season; I actually think a scenario where the team struggled early, but pulls things together late and wins some big games is a real possibility--but it's going to be hard to survive serious attendance revolt and a mediocre September.
Months ago, Alton predicted that the 100,000 attendance streak would be broken this year. I thought that his prediction was premature... but now I'm not so sure.
You're just NOW starting to wonder if people are disattisfied with the product on the field and the crap home games? How long, exactly, was your coma?
We're very possibly at the point where the announcement of crowds in excess of 100K will have all the reality and accuracy of the new Soviet Five-Year Plan that Brezhnev announced in 1973.
If the way they've been begging Michigan hockey fans with e-mails, Groupon deals, etc... to buy hockey tickets the past few seasons is any indication, then I feel this is only the beginning for football attendance woes.
Hockey used to be an guaranteed sell out with massive waiting list every season. But years of increased ticket prices + horrible home nonconference schedules + b-ball comeback drove fans away (and, of course, the past two seasons haven't helped matters though attendance was declining before that happened). They finally fixed the horrible schedule part this past season. Now they need to win some games again.
But it's the same story for football... high prices + struggling team + horrible home schedule is a recipe for no one buying tickets. Winning can cure some of the problems, but at the end of the day, for the price they're paying, fans want to see high-profile teams play at Michigan Stadium, not Jerryworld. I don't see attendance woes getting better until they play a home schedule that's worth forking over the money.
Call it a bit of a fan revolt, but with more folks living on tight budgets these days, I don't think fans are going to just give the university their money freely and take whatever they feed them as opponents anymore. But maybe that's what it'll take for the athletic department to get the message.
Can an aspiring neo-LSUFreek graft Brandon's head onto that gif?
Actually, it would be funnier if it were Hoke's head. Let's go with that.
Forgive my GIMP skills being a little rusty:
I used to do a lot of photoshop contests (with LSUFreek and others) on the old SoonerFans message board.
Given the wording of this, I have to think that this letter will also run in the ads that come with the Sunday paper, somewhere between the 3 / $6.00 sale on bags of shredded cheese and the 10 / $10 on cans of StarKist tuna. All three offers will be good until 4/25 at participating supermarkets, I would imagine.
Considering the horrible home schedule which the price did not decrease for, the terrible experience general admission created for students and a 7-6 season last year, I'm not shocked it has been more difficult for them to sell tickets.
Sometimes I wonder if the 100,000 fans streak will be in jeopardy this season.
for the 1997 championship season, student tickets were less than $100 for the entire season.
Gas was also 89 cents a gallon. Prices go up and while we may not like it, it's a fact of life.
Yearly inlfation rates between 1997 and 2014 have basically been somewhere between 0% to 4%. The ticket prices have increased far beyond inflation rates while the quality of the football product has decreased considerably.
Not related to inflation, but rather to facilities upgrades. People wanted them (not me, I liked Michigan Stadium circa 1997 better than the steroid version of today), and now people are paying for them.
The money from tickets is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what they rake in from the TV contracts. That money, plus large donation is what fuels the facility upgrades. Squeezing every dime you can out of your students (and future fanbase) does nothing to the bottom line but hurt it.
i can't think of tickets to any other event that cost three times more now than they did in 1997. also, one of the reasons every student got tickets in 1997 were that they were cheap. charging $295 probably turns a lot of students off. the same students that are going to be future donors. moreover, tuition, which has skyrocketed, hasn't even gone up at the same rate as student tickets.
Ticket prices and the cost of being a fan of any major sport, pro or college, has risen dramatically in the past twenty years. Lots of studies out there thatiI'd link to if I weren't on my phone.
But I get it though, it doesn't make me happy either. All I'm saying isthat it's not isolated to Ann Arbor.
Have you seen the price of Pistons tickets lately? Evidently the economics department has not informed the Athletic department about the concept of price elasticity. Prices can go up until the product no longer equals the value/demand. I'm not comparing 1997 to today, just comparing 2013 with the crappy slate of games in 2014.
The point here is college should be different. It is not a for profit thing (like the NFL). It should have different goals.
Like ensuring students of that college can attend games without taking out a loan.
but who's counting.
and, given the disproportionate increase in energy costs over the past 16 years, not really a fair analogy.
at Clemson they are free.
For contrast Mississippi State charges students $55 for season tickets. Even year headlining home games are Auburn and TAMU. In odd years $55 gets you in to see Alabama, LSU, and a rivalry game with Ole Miss.
Well, this should be an interesting season then. Everybody got mad at the students for coming late to games and demanded a smaller student section. Looks like we're getting it.
You'd think Brandon would get a clue with the terrible home schedule and hellhole of a general admission that they will have trouble selling out student tickets this year.
As a non student season ticket holder, i received the same email the other. Unfortunately with the awful home schedule and the price of tickets I will not be renewing this year.
Same here. And what I still find utterly amazing to this day is that even after I wrote two emails to Brandon and sent in a fairly scathing "Season Ticket Holder Survey" response last year I have recieved zero communication back from the Athletic Department other than these canned emails. And I was a season ticket holder in Section two, with four tickets, who contributed to the Athletic Department, and held those tickets for almost 25 years and I went to the last two bowl games.
Talk all you want about Brandon's supposed marketing savy - to me he is utterly clueless on actually listening (and responding) to his customer. I can only assume that if my level of financial contribution wasn't worth trying to save they must be VERY confident in their ability to replace fans like me and you.
Don't forget, this is the dude that thought Bread Bowl Pasta was a solid idea. Marketing is clearly not is strong suit.
I renewed this year but my profile matches yours. They seek input but do not seem to listen.
This won't be a popular decision on here, but I am a rising senior who also has Superfan status who has elected not to renew my tickets. I just can't afford 300 dollars to watch that terrible home schedule. I couldn't justify that decision.
actually i don't think that many people around these parts would disagree with you. students don't have full time jobs. $300 is a lot of money for a student.
dave brandon acts like he has shareholders. he needs the stock price to go up immediately and doesn't worry about the long term. college sports loyalty doesn't work like a business. today's students are tomorrow's donors and if you don't get the hooked now they're not going to donate down the line.
They're so desparate they're emailing me and I'm graduating!
Why does anyone give a shit about whether the AD cares about the students? Why does that matter at all? I can understand if you just aren't a fan or think dealing with general admission is more of a hassle than the game is worth, but if you are a fan and are choosing not to go in protest of the AD's policies, then that is really unfortunate and IMO just that student choosing to miss out for the wrong reason. You only get to live the college life once (at least for most of us).
"Social media killed the sports star". Someone should write a song.
Putting MSU and OSU at home in the same year was ridiculous and avoidable. But I guess Dave Brandon should have raised hell to keep it from happening as well.
There is no motivation at all to buy season tickets in even years any more. Even if you added a marquee non-conference opponent, I don't think it would rectify the situation.
Boy, times have changed. When I was buying my season ticket (which I paid for myself) I never cared who was on the schedule that year. I never thought "watching Michigan play a mediocre team won't be worth my time/money." I just knew that I only had 7-8 times all year to watch Michigan live from the Big House and it was a no-brainer that I would go. There's a whole experience of watching Michigan football games, and the opponent only played a small part in that.
I'm not judging anyone, but I just don't get it.
Not to mention the fact that there is a finite number of times Michigan will play at The Big House while you are a student. I can't imagine not wanting to be a part of that while being at UM. It is what makes Michigan, Michigan, fergodsakes.
I bet you didn't go 10 years without seeing a big ten title either. So much for ''Those who stay will be champions'' anymore.
We're slowly becoming Notre Dame.
We're worse. Notre Dame went to the title game at least.
Very true. How embarassing is it that we're basically the only blue blood to not make a bcs national title game?
I don't get people that want to return to Lloyd Carr ball. You want to return to underachieving? Really? Time to raise your friggen expectations and maybe you'll get more out of it.
Hey man Lloyd owned MSU. Brady struggles with Iowa. Harbaugh will right the ship in 2015!
Not hard to own MSU when you have two idiots coaching there for most of his tenure. Now that they have a probably top three coach in the B1G at least it's a different story. And it's not enough to own MSU. When you lose 5 of 6 to Tressel you're not good enough. We'll see how this year goes though. Otherwise I'm off the Hoke bandwagon even if he's allowed to return for 2015.
..but a true blue would always prefer a Jan. 1st date in Pasedena to a Jan 8th date in Phoenix, Miami, etc.
As an MGoSnob, missing out on a BCS title game doesn't bother me in the least.
The rose bowl is part of the playoffs this year and not on january 1st. Also really? You'd rather play for a decent but relatively meaningless rose bowl than a national title? That is the absurd thinking that has made it seem okay that we underachieve.
yeah! not competing for national championships when there are moral victories to be had is awesome! whee!
No, but we weren't owning everyone either. Again, this was never part of my thought process either. I didn't think about how good I thought the team would be before I bought my tickets. I wasn't a fan of Michigan when they were good, I was a fan of Michigan, win, lose or draw. No one likes the "fair weather fan" label, but using lack of Big Ten titles as an argument for not going to games is exactly that.
I think we all could deal with a ok product if we weren't treated like shit the rest of the time. The cost of parking, food, seat cusion rentals... I feel like I need to keep checking my wallet to make sure it's still there. In the old days I felt like I was treated with benign neglect. They left me alone and I enjoyed the game. Now I feel like I am sitting in the the timeshare sales pitch.
I enjoy going to games, but I wish they were not trying so hard to fleece me out of every last dollar.
by the way, did you know you can rent out the Big House for your wedding?!
I also think you're totally over-reacting. Don't you know that the PSDs are competitive with the rest of the premier programs across the country?!?! And for just $4 you can also get into the women's lacrosse game? Don't forget that there are now 2 (yes 2!) MDenLocations onsite at the Big House, where you can purchase all your favorite MGoGear. AND you can catch the exiciting Slippery Rock game for just $20.
Why do you feel like they're always trying to take your money? They're only offering you some exciting benefits of membership in this exclusive club!
I wasn't a fan of Michigan when they were good, I was a fan of Michigan, win, lose or draw
I think you're forgetting that the majority of students aren't crazy diehards though.
When you add up the bad product, the bad pricing, and the bad way students have been treated, it's not surprising Football games aren't a marquee event anymore
Unless you were a fan in the 50's and 60's you have always been watching a good to great Michigan team up until about a decade ago. Winning matters. Always has and always will
Not sure when you were there but my guess is they also largely WON most of their games, challenged for if not won, the B1G at least once if not twice and you got to see a Rose Bowl if you were so inclined. My years (78-81) witnessed AC, two Rose Bowls (Bo's first win) and Ricky Leach as a Senior. Not too bad.
Not so for this batch of students. They get a big, heaping pile of mediocrity to enjoy. Not quite the same experience if you ask me.
So Gardner, Funchess, Jake Ryan and Jabrill Peppers isn't exciting football? I know we haven't been winning Big Ten championships, but let's not act like our games have been boring.
But again, this is just my mindset. I didn't think about who was on the team or hwo good I thought we'd be before buying tickets. I always bought them because I loved watching Michigan football.
Jabrill Peppers hasn't even played here yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
And yes, those players are exciting, but Losing trumps Excitement. Which we've done a lot of in the last 5 years.
beating Akron on a last second incomplete pass might be ''exciting'' but it's not what I have in mind. Losing 13-17 Nebraska in one of the worst offensive performances I've ever seen is not exciting. Losing to OSU on a two point conversion I think bought the team some leeway, but it was all gone thanks to the performance in the BWW bowl where players basically said they didn't try. If they don't try why should we?
I think you're missing a huge point here. Many students aren't buying the tickets because of absurd pricing, a brutal schedule, and the fact that it's been so damn easy to buy tickets off of other students lately. Like $5 before the game (if that) easy. I love watching Michigan football as well, but I'd rather pay a more reasonable price to go watch us battle, especially against an Akron-type opponent.
Watching a mediocre team face mediocre to poor competition 7 times for $300 is silly. Without 2 or 3 marquee games, you get no value. It's too easy to find a ticket for $20 (or less for the Akrons of the world). If I weren't graduating, I'd rather buy tickets for 4 or 5 games for like $75 and watch a couple noon snoozefests on television.
I think you're problem is two fold.
1) you attatch morality in attending some football game. There's almost a moral imperative of it to you. To many, it's entertainment and nothing more. If you're not entertained, why spend your hard earned dollars and hours of your time? Your position is one I don't get. For example, many people here lambast students for not being in the stands early enough to see the band or players touching the banner -- I was never a student who was on time for those. I wanted to watch the game. I was in my seat before kickoff and was always loud and cheering. However, I did not buy tickets for those experiences so I chose to spend my extra time partying with my friends. I don't feel like my experience was hurt at all. \
2) I rarely attend games. I'm an alum now and I'll go to 1-2 a year max. I'd rather watch from the comfort of my 60" TV and comfy couch. Bathroom is close and there's no line, case of beer in the fridge, snacks and food of my choosing, etc. The experience watching for home, again for the purpose of entertainment, is simply better.
I enjoyed the blowouts. You got a chance to see some players who didn't get a lot of snaps. Of course, we were also able to bring liquor into the stadium.
why would this comment get negged. it's reasonable and innocuous. this thread has a weird vibe to it.
As I stated in the other thread on the main page, the best thing is for the student section to be bone dry this year.
If you can afford it when you're good, you can afford it when you're bad. That's how being a fan works. Being from Pittsburgh, I never got the concept of witholding money to show your displeasure. it's not like the FO is trying to be awful. Clearly they know they're not performing to expectations. Pay your money, help the team. Obviously it's different for college because we're not buying players (except us, har har har) but the point stands. If you have the $300 to spend when Michigan is expected to compete for a conference title, you have $300 to spend when they're not, that what being a fan is.
Obviously this doesn't apply to students who cannot afford tickets under any circumstances.
Goddammit, the Buckeye gets it.
I always thought MIchigan was the best fanbase because we were loyal. We didn't have fair weather fans. It turns out that wasn't true, we were just always good.
It would be different if we had next year's schedule this year though. We would have no problem selling out. The schedule this year is literally the worst I can remember in my lifetime.
Quite frankly it doesn't matter. OSU's home schedule last year featured Penn State as the marquee game too. Michigan fans should care about watching Michigan. The opponent is irrelevent. You're Michigan fergodsakes! What the hell, this isn't Northwestern?
Fuck. 100% on
This really isn't about anyone's fanhood. You can be a fan, watch the game, and cheer for your team without visiting a stadium, and people doing simple math are deciding to do just that. It's not that we don't care, it's just that we can't afford to go to games anymore.
I specifically wrote if you can't afford it, then I'm not talking about you.
The reality is the team sucks, the stadium experience sucks, the schedule sucks, HD TVs are cheap, and yet ticket prices continue to increase.
For those who can afford tickets, it could be that their economic sense is overwhelming their loyalty. I blame the B-school.
Don't come back when the team starts winning again.
THIS. THIS. THIS.
Why wouldn't you want to go see Michigan beat the tar out of someone in a large win?
"If you can afford it when you're good, you can afford it when you're bad."
Win or lose doesn't seem like the issue to me. The problem that I see is price. $295 is absurd, especially if the student is borrowing money to pay for their education. Tickets need to be cheap enough for students that they don't even think twice about buying them. That's how the casual fan gets hooked. But with the continuing bleak job outlook for graduates $295 is enough for a kid to get out the calculator ans start wondering if it's worth it.
I completely agree with that. Student tickets should be cheap and accessable to all. Outside of that, I really don't care what they charge the general public. Unfotunately, I'll pay any price. It's not really, "Oh, I can't afford tickets anymore," it's "Oh, whose dick do I have to suck to afford these tickets now?" I'm like a heroin addict. But there's many other people who don't feel the same way, and get priced out. It doesn't mean they're less of fans.
So is our 100,000 home attendance streak in jeopardy this year? I figure if they keep upping ticket prices with crap-tacular home schedules like this, it's only a matter of time.
I suppose the quality of the product on the field doesn't help much either.
Honestly does it even matter anymore? I was just watching ESPNU the other day and they were discussing most overrated home fields. One analyst picked Michigan Stadium. The over 100,000 attendance thing is about as relevant as our national championships from the Yost days.
My friends and I had tickets freshman and sophomore year but stopped because we had more fun watching the game on HD TV than standing for 3 hours while sloppy drunk sorority chicks and totally cool fraternity brahs muscled their way into our space. The atmosphere wasn't to our liking and we didn't want to pay the prices when our experience at our apartment was fun and free.
Your usher situation is a joke. I've sat in both student sections, and at OSU, our ushers are Nazis. They will throw you out if you're not in your seat, if you're standing on the bleachers, if you're crowding people. It doesn't matter. They do their jobs, they aren't fucking around. At Michigan? They gave 0 fucks. It was a circus, seat numbers meant nothing, ushers did nothing. Sorry.
the home schedule has been brutal. the non conference has to get better, or no one will be buying tickets. Michigan is becoming a glorified MAC school. let's play EMU, CMU, and EMU every year.
I'd buy them if they cost $600. I understand if you don't have the money but they cost around the same last year and most people went. Do people really choose to go based on who we are playing and not to see our team. Are we really that fickle?
I'm really embarrassed by our fans. We are becoming Miami (FL). If you bought them last year, you can buy them this year. If yu don't have the money in the first place, it's different. Having a half empty stadium because people are upset isn't going to do anything but cause recruits to decommit and potential recruits to commit elsewhere.
Couple more years of mediocre/bad play and you'll see a lot of these so-called fans scatter like the Basketball ones did.
Only to reappaer when they have national success again.
But you carried the torch bro, good for you. When we win a championship it will be yours more than anyone's.
Nebraska hasn't been nationally relevant since the 90s and they sellout every game. It shows how much their fans care about the team.
1962. That's how far back their sellout streak goes.
Michigan's "consecutive games with 100,000" makes me chuckle. That leaves the door open for the place not even being filled to capacity.
Example: Akon. First time since illinois in 2001 that happened.
...factor in the relative cost of tickets at Nebraska over the years before it would be a fair comparison. For all I know, they aren't overpriced in Lincoln.
Tickets are cheaper but the PSD is a lot more than ours.
Nebraska also had 30, 000 less seats up until this year and now have 20, 000 less.
People are too infatuated with showing DB instead of helping the team.
Dave Brandon haters are just amusing to me. Hell, even I've been angry with some things he's done. But he's done far more positive than negative.
Look at what he's doing to this athletic campus. Look at what he's done for many of the "non-revenue sports".
But that's all erased when we see a Marathon ad around the stadium CONCOURSE.
He has done or is going to do more for the non-revenue sports then I think Martin whould have.
There is such a thing as going too far. There are certain things in life that should be sacred, Michigan Football is one of them. Don't piss on The Tradition. I would have thought you would "get" that. Perspective.
The tickets were the same prices in 2011 and people bought them. 70 for smaller games and 85 for bigger games. It's not about money. It's about people no longer supporting the team.
No, there was one more home game. The 2014 slate only has 7 games while 2011 had 8. That and 2011 had ND, Nebraska, and OSU were at home. You're paying the same for one less home game and a piss poor slate of games compared to 2011.
If students don't buy seats, the student section will keep shrinking over the years. Then, once were really good again, he'll jack the price up more for the small student Section AND the rest of the stadium. He's probably Ok with students not buying seats bc he can sell the same seats for more to others. He'll probably only be worried of our attendance drops below 100k for any game. That will be embarrassing.
The argument being that they were preventing non-students from being able to go to the games. So now the students are not buying tickets anymore and they're still being criticized. If what you really wanted was for all the students to exhibit unbrindled devotion towards the football team, even in the face of high prices and a crap product, your expectations were unrealistic. This is just a fact of life.
EDIT: reveal yourself, random downvoter
If students where "super fans" don't you think they whould have re-newed already?
What a stupid e-mail.
I recall the following prices when I was a student back in 1970 / 1971:
1970 - 6 games / $14 x 6.18 inflation + 1 game adj = $100.91 in 2014 dollars
1971 - 7 games / $17 x 5.86 inflation = $99.62 in 2014 dollars
2014 - 7 games / $295
Athletics should be an integral part of the student experience! Not to glorify the athletic department or to provide elaborate facilities for all the non-revenue sports. The students need to be served instead of being abused. The university and board of regents need to readjust the priorities of college athletics.
I can recall attending hockey games when we were a very poor team in 1970 / 1971. Our dormmates would get together go to the game and perform the fight song between periods on our kazoos. I loved the comraderie and spirit.
Personally, I could care less about winning the all-around college athletic trophy. Stanford wins it because their entire athletic department is endowed and competes in several additional sports.
I have been priced out of the affordability of taking my two sons to a football game. I used to be able to justify it because it was better than lining the pockets of the owners of our local professional teams. Not any more!