Desmond hating on Sparty
I'm just watching College Gameday and enjoyed Desmond and Herbie arguing over how good Iowa really is. Herbie was saying that Iowa won in a tough environment last week and Desmond started mocking Sparty as always finding a way to lose big games. I love it! Although I do agree with Herbie in that Iowa has been impressive by winning at Penn State and Wisconsin, as well as the chance to win in Columbus in a few weeks. If they win out, they deserve their chance.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:30 AM ^
Iowa is not good. I really hope they don't win out. Even if they do they might not go to the NC game though. But they'd lose by 20 to USC or Oregon in the Rose Bowl. They shouldn't have beaten us or MSU. They don't deserve a chance if Texas is still undefeated. One of Bama or Florida will be undefeated.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:40 AM ^
I agree with you, but if they win out, how can you deny them? Winning in Columbus remains a big hurdle for them. A playoff system would really help all this, as Fowler mentions every week.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:58 AM ^
What big out of conference win do they have? Simply winning out in the big ten right now shouldn't be qualifications for a national championship chance.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:05 AM ^
Arizona is pretty good. Iowa State doesn't suck. Texas and Florida's OOC are junk too. C'mon, Iowa needs to get credit for what they have done.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:09 AM ^
You can't put Iowa in front of undefeated Florida/Alabama/Texas. If 2 of these teams lose a game, then Iowa should play in the NC game. But they shouldn't get in over these teams if they haven't lost. The SEC is wayyyy better than the B10. The B12 is better too.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:45 AM ^
Florida has needed help from the refs to win their games against Arkansas and MSU. Alabama needed some questionable calls to avoid upsets as well. What do the SEC Lords do? They tell the coaches they'll be suspended or fined if they question the refs.
Your argument that the SEC is WAYYYY better than the Big Ten just shows that all you do is watch Sportscenter by day and sleep on a Mark May pillow at night while holding a CBS blanket.
The Big Ten as a whole plays well agains the SEC. Don't lay the Buckeye's problems at the conference's feet. I have watched an insane amount of SEC games this year because the BTN sucks and their teams are NOT as fantastic as everyone says. They don't play in snow, or cold rain, or in stadiums that boast the highest attendance averages. They are just as susceptible to the "every" team as the Big Ten teams are.
Just my two cents, but don't be a Florida homer. They are clearly not that great unless playing Charleston Southern.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:15 PM ^
looked at the conferences bowl record lately?
October 31st, 2009 at 2:31 PM ^
Wait until after the season to make this particular argument.
The SEC has almost certainly been the best conference in the country for the past few years, but these things tend to be cyclical. The SEC will likely start slipping in a few years, if it hasn't already.
October 31st, 2009 at 3:47 PM ^
I won't disagree with that statement, but we haven't proven ourselves against other conferences the last few years and that's the only data we have to work off of.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:41 AM ^
Just for the record Iowa State does suck. Living in Nebraska (Big12 country) I can tell you they are a very bad team. Last week they played the Huskers and benefited from 8 turnovers and only scored 9 points. They do not help Iowa's arguement in my opinion.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:24 PM ^
They may not be very good, but their head on Iowa's wall looks exactly the same as M's objectively. 5-3 is 5-3, and it only makes the Hawkeye's OOC schedule look better.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:47 PM ^
You make a good point. Even looking at both M's and Iowa States schedules you can draw some comparisions.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:39 PM ^
Without their starting QB and starting RB, the Big 12's leading rusher. They aren't too bad.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:40 AM ^
USC has their own offensive woes, which really plays into Iowa's defensive strength. The same is true of Florida and Alabama.
Why do people give teams like USC, Florida, and Alabama passes for almost losing to weak teams, but hold a team like Iowa to different standards?
I'm not sure if Iowa deserves their shot at a title. But I'm not sure if Florida or Alabama do either.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:45 AM ^
People said the exact same thing about Ohio State vs. Miami back in 2002 or whenever it was. Iowa's defense is pretty good especially given the schedule they've played. Don't forget that Florida and 'Bama have gotten by with helpful calls in skin of their teeth wins lately.
Texas...maybe over Iowa if undefeated but they haven't had to play as challenging a schedule as Iowa has.
I wouldn't mind seeing them win out to win the B10. It would be the first time in a while that I can remember a team other than Michigan or Ohio State win the B10 AND play Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State in the that year. If they win they deserve it.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:46 AM ^
I wouldn't go as far as to say that Iowa is not good. Any team that wins @PSU, @Wisconsin, and @OSU(if they win this one) is a good team. They might be overrated, but they are still a good team.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:54 AM ^
Moeaki for Heisman! If the Hawkeyes win in Columbus, I don't think they will, they are one helluva team.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:10 AM ^
I don't mean Iowa isn't good, because they are. I just don't think they are a top 5 team. They're good, but not great.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:47 AM ^
Iowa's a good squad, but if they go up against Florida (or to a lesser extent Alabama or USC) they might get torn up defensively. As Brian mentioned, they played a very vanilla scheme against Michigan that only worked because we shot ourselves in the foot Cheddar Plax style. That isn't going to happen against the aformentioned teams, and Florida in particular will probably find various and sundry ways to gash that deep safety look with months to gameplan.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:10 PM ^
+1 for slipping in a 8-mile reference
October 31st, 2009 at 12:31 PM ^
To be fair, I don't think Florida is in the same discussion as Texas and Bama in terms of NC teams. They have looked horrible virtually all season, and at some point they will run into a team that can take advantage of their mistakes. Iowa would make Tebow look like an overrated QB with limited throwing ability. If Iowa has to play USC, then they would probably get killed. Throw them in against a SEC team, though, and they might surprise people.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:44 PM ^
Don't forget how Iowa destroyed South Carolina last year in the bowl game.
October 31st, 2009 at 2:17 PM ^
They have played the SEC well in the past. And Michigan shoved it down FL's throat a couple of years back so i am not for assuming anything when it comes down to bowl games. Let the chips fall where they may and we'll find out at the end of the game who is the best.
January 1, 2004 Outback Bowl Beat Florida 37 17
January 1, 2005 Capital Bowl Beat LSU 30 25
January 2, 2006 Outback Bowl Lost toFlorida 24 31
December 29,2006 Alamo Bowl Lost to Texas 24 26
January 1, 2009 Outback Bowl Beat SC 31 10
October 31st, 2009 at 12:34 PM ^
This auburn - ole miss game could be good.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:35 PM ^
Jesus people. You don't have to neg every opposing opinion.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:34 PM ^
Thank you. Iowa doesn't look too good right now.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:56 PM ^
it's annoying when fans say 'team x' isn't good b/c they don't win convincingly (even though they're 7-0, or 6-1). IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY WON CONVINCINGLY OR NOT. they won.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:38 AM ^
I was watching the end of that game with a buddy last weekend and he was rooting for the stop by Sparty as he has some unfounded hate for Iowa. Told him to not hold is breath as Sparty always finds some way to lose and sure enough. Iowa does have some holes and don't think they would match up against anyone well that they would potentially face in the NC. But to say they don't deserve it if they are undeafeated isn't fair either they have done what they need to do to win.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:09 AM ^
When I was watching that game after MSU scored, all I could think was "Wow. Iowa STILL has 1:37 left." I didn't really think that they'd do anything, as they hadn't moved the ball too well before that, so I was a little surprised. Just a LITTLE.
But, yeah. That was a pretty hilarious comment by Desmond. And pretty true, too...
October 31st, 2009 at 10:43 AM ^
I saw the segment with Desmond as well, that was funny and pretty harsh talk from Desmond, they really are arrogant asses in Ann Arbor.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:25 AM ^
need to run that clock in their locker room each week in anticpation for all of their games- not just the M game. So they beat the Wolverines this year. What does it mean when they cannot sustain their effort and intensity for opponents that come after on the schedule? They need to learn what Izzo and Mateen Cleeves learned when they finally defeated M in hoops; that beating Michigan is just one small step up the mountain of success. Nothing more and nothing less.
Until MSU learns this they will continue to experience their own version of Groundhog Day.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:06 PM ^
I wouldn't mind Sparty groundhog for the next 50 years.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:34 PM ^
So you want to lose to them for the next 50 years?
October 31st, 2009 at 1:33 PM ^
I enjoyed his comments on Taylor Mays getting embarrassed by Tate twice in the ND game, myself
October 31st, 2009 at 3:07 PM ^
god, watching FSU-NC State... how horrible is the ACC??? is the ACC worse than the Big Least? Especially after UNC beating VT on thursday?
[edit: meant to put this in the Saturday Open Thread...my bad]