Not good if true. It would be on his own dime since he's already had his official visit to Auburn. I'd link but it's premium. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Derrick Green visiting Auburn this weekend per AU scout site
January 9th, 2013 at 4:38 PM
#1
Derrick Green visiting Auburn this weekend per AU scout site
January 9th, 2013 at 4:41 PM
#2
Even if it is true, for some
Even if it is true, for some reason this doesn't worry me at all.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:10 PM
#3
Unofficial or not, it being
Unofficial or not, it being Auburn, it seems unlikely it's his "own dime."
January 9th, 2013 at 5:12 PM
#4
How many times did Treadwell
How many times did Treadwell do that?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:28 PM
#5
If anything, this recruitment
If anything, this recruitment reminds me of Josh Garnett. Teased us until the day he chose Stanford. I still do think Michigan will end up with Green though... Just scary when teams down south get the last word.
Treadwell reminds me of Jordan Diamond. Had us as a leader throughout the entire time but chose not to commit and kept "enjoying the recruiting process" then ended up committing elsewhere.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:22 PM
#6
During the AA game, he said
During the AA game, he said he needed to visit Auburn and Tennessee again to meet the new coaching staffs. He's already taken his official to Auburn, ergo visiting again "on his own dime" (Read: on a booster's private jet)
January 9th, 2013 at 6:11 PM
#7
But Auburn grads can't afford
But Auburn grads can't afford private jets.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:25 PM
#8
I know that was a
I know that was a tongue-in-cheek comment, but some dude named Tim Cook (CEO of a small startup named after a fruit) is an Auburn grad. Pretty sure his stock options could buy a fleet of G6s.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:52 PM
#9
Where's Derrick?
No visits for RB Derrick Green this weekend. Family taking break after San Antonio for #ArmyBowl
TimS_Wolverine - 1 min ago - Twitter for Mac
Retweet of rivalsmike
January 9th, 2013 at 4:43 PM
#10
Ungood
But, other programs are gonna bust their humps for top guys like Green. We have to work hard to get them, and in this environment, at least that hard to keep them.
Auburn, though? That program is not in a great place, although maybe they sell him on "play now." Not really something that differentiates them from us. He will at a minimum be in the mix if he goes Blue.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:55 PM
#11
posting from Iphone?
looks like 'pay now' got autocorrected to 'play now'.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:13 PM
#12
Or sell him on buying him,
Or sell him on buying him, which is more likely and troublesome IMO.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:44 PM
#13
Don't tell me who I can and can't shoot!
"bassmaster?" More like "ASSmaster," you dick.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:45 PM
#14
Until he signs a LOI, we're
Until he signs a LOI, we're still in the lead
January 9th, 2013 at 6:41 PM
#15
Put another way
Until he signs a LOI, there is no such thing as a "lead" with any meaning.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:45 PM
#16
He said he was going to take
He said he was going to take tall of his officials cause... Why not, free trip.
Why are you surprised that he's doing exactly what he said he was going to?
January 9th, 2013 at 4:50 PM
#17
Because it's an unofficial,
Because it's an unofficial, dummy.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:52 PM
#18
I think you're confused about
I think you're confused about the meaning of "on his own dime". It doesn't mean free so yes this should be a little concerning.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:02 PM
#19
Maybe I'm confused about "on
Maybe I'm confused about "on his own dime." With Auburn, I'm sure they can find a way to subsidize any unofficial trip and add on another $100K.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:55 PM
#20
Apologies. I just woke up and
Apologies. I just woke up and read it incorrectly.
Thank you all for pointing out how much of an idiot I am. I also appreciate your fervor and vitriole.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:46 PM
#23
I think Auburn fans are
I think Auburn fans are currently read the book, 'The Secret". If you think it long enough, and wish for it, it will come true.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:07 PM
#24
That might also explain that
That might also explain that tornado in Tuscaloosa a couple of years ago.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:21 PM
#25
Dude, not cool. The tornado
Dude, not cool. The tornado was deadly and harmed a lot of people.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:47 PM
#26
Why is this bad?
We knew he wanted to take additional visits. Those visits had to take place sometime, so the fact that it is this weekend wouldn't seem to make much of a difference.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
#27
I think the problem isn't so
I think the problem isn't so much that he's going to visit a school that isn't Michigan after he said he already knew where he was going (which is already bad), it's that he's paying for the trip himself. Definitely not good.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:12 PM
#28
He's said he was going to
He's said he was going to take visits to AU and UT. He's already taken officials to both those schools. He knows it's going to be on his own dime. Everybody else knows it would be on his own dime. This is not a surprise.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:15 PM
#29
Yesss
Yesss exactly now will everyone shut up about these fucking dimes?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:24 PM
#30
Anybody got a dime?
Somebody has to go back and get a shit load of dimes...
January 9th, 2013 at 5:41 PM
#31
Funniest movie ever made.
Funniest movie ever made.
January 9th, 2013 at 10:25 PM
#32
It's twoo, it's twoo!
- Lili
It's twoo, it's twoo!
- Lili Von Shtupp
January 9th, 2013 at 5:25 PM
#33
I would take a trip to Auburn
I would take a trip to Auburn too if it only cost me a dime.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:44 PM
#34
He's going on his own nickel
He's going on his own nickel to listen to the new staff give their two cents on how to give a dollar's worth of free advice. Better?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:58 PM
#35
The hick states DO have a low
The hick states DO have a low cost of living...
January 9th, 2013 at 4:59 PM
#36
I would be more worried if
I would be more worried if this visit was taking place closer to signing day considering he said he wanted to make a decision late January.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:47 PM
#37
.
In that rivals chat he said he wanted to meet the new Auburn staff, so this isn't actually that surprising.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:55 PM
#38
This
My guess is Michigan still leads, but he has liked Auburn in the past and wants to at least the new coaching staff a chance before actually committing. He's just cleaning up any loose ends before finishing the process. Maybe he finds out he likes the coaching staff and goes to Auburn, but I don't think he's making this trip to commit there (he hasn't even met the coaches yet).
January 9th, 2013 at 4:48 PM
#39
I want him to do his homework
If he's going to commit to Michigan, I'd like him to be done looking around. If he's going to commit to Auburn, he should make sure he's comfortable. Either way, I hope he has a nice time. In fact, I hope everyone has a nice weekend.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:49 PM
#40
(No subject)
January 9th, 2013 at 4:51 PM
#43
If this turns out how I now
If this turns out how I now think its going to turn out, it's further evidence that Michigan runs a clean program.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
#44
I'm in that camp too.
I'm in that camp too.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:00 PM
#45
Agree 100%
I just cant see spending his own money to take another trip when he already knows where he's going.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:47 PM
#46
He said he would. He took
He said he would. He took officials to Tenn and Auburn, then they got new coaches. I think it's a good idea for him to at least meet them, despite him already knowing where he wants to go.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:04 PM
#47
I agree, but for some reason
I agree, but for some reason those words do not make me feel any better.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:54 PM
#48
Green is smart and won't
be swayed by Gus' spread attack, especially as his spread focuses on RB runs outside the tackle - and we're not even considering his favorite play of the jet sweep.
Plus, his OV for the Georgia game had the distinct benefit of showing him 80% of Auburn fans leaving by half. They are bandwagon fans with a win-at-all-cost mentality.
Never know, but AU shouldn't be our biggest threat.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:57 PM
#49
A couple things
Gus can change the focus of his spread attack. He focused on RB runs to the outside at Auburn with Newton because Newton was a great between the tackles runner but didn't have elite speed.
Also, Green has really good speed, him attacking the edge isn't too much of an issue.
All that said, I still don't think he wants to play in a spread attack and my guess is Michigan still leads, as I commented above.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:31 PM
#50
I beg to differ
I remember Newton outrunning Patrick Peterson to the endzone:
January 9th, 2013 at 5:43 PM
#51
Isn't not wanting to play in a spread attack
the same argument everyone made last year for Brionte Dunn. How did that one turn out for us? Granted Dunn was a current Ohio commit, but any coach can feed a kid as much BS as he wants to get him to commit. It worked for Urban!!
January 9th, 2013 at 5:45 PM
#52
Sure Gus could change.
However, his scheme for 15 years has been predicated on "sideline to sideline" with running backs (running wide is both to attack the edge and split the safeties for seam routes). His inside running is just to probe the D and keep LBs honest. Shiloh, Springdale, Tulsa, Auburn - all relied on these principles.
Regardless, as you noted his speed, maybe Green simply decides he is more of a speed/seam guy than pro/power guy.
We know 18 year olds make irrational choices sometimes.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
#53
I remember him saying that
I remember him saying that his mom "had that feeling" after a prior Auburn visit, and since it seems as though his mom has a lot to say in his commitment, I would consider them a big threat.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:00 PM
#54
Whistling through the
Whistling through the graveyard. Any idiot knows that Auburn has rabid fans and that their early departures last season were due to terrible football. A confident player and coach will expect things to improve, and Auburn's environment is a known draw.
And he might not like spread offenses, but don't think he can't be sold on playing in one better tuned for his skills.
And don't think these superficial factors are even a real issue anyways.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:35 PM
#55
Auburn snagged Zeke Pike when
Auburn snagged Zeke Pike when Malzahn was still there, and he was a complete mismatch, as far as I can tell. Point is, a duffel bag full of cash can overcome a lot of obstacles.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:01 PM
#56
Zeke Pike
Zeke Pike is now a backup TE at Louisville. So yes, not a good fit in any aspect of the word.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:57 PM
#57
This is not good...
This is not good...
January 9th, 2013 at 5:41 PM
#58
He already stated he's made
He already stated he's made up his mind where he wants to go. He also stated he'd visit Auburn and Tennessee (he hasn't met with the new coaching staffs yet at either school.) I think that's very telling for Michigan. It shouldn't be a bad thing when he visits Tennessee after.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
#59
I do not understand why
I do not understand why anybody is suprised by this at all. Derrick Green himself said at the Army game that Michigan leads but he was still going to visit Auburn and Tennessee again to get to know the new coaching staffs.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:01 PM
#60
We at mgoblog my
We at mgoblog my friend...selective hearing is crucial
January 9th, 2013 at 5:03 PM
#61
Exactly
And everyone freaking out that it's "not an official" and that he's "paying his own dime", he's paying for a weekend trip for one of the biggest decisions of his life so far. It's probably something that can be seen as worth the cost to make sure the next 3-5 years are the best fit for the kid.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:21 PM
#62
The Auburn boosters will be
The Auburn boosters will be very pleased to hear this.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:59 PM
#63
iPhone
It's like your ex you gotta try it out at least one more time to make sure it's not for you.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:00 PM
#64
Best question to consider IS
Does Auburn cover dental too? Green's got decisions to make
January 9th, 2013 at 5:01 PM
#65
(No subject)
January 9th, 2013 at 5:02 PM
#66
My prediction - upon arrival
My prediction - upon arrival in Auburn, Alabama (the arm pit of the Arm Pit) he's all like "I paid for this???"...and commits to Michigan.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:03 PM
#67
You do realize that he's
You do realize that he's visited there before, and still has them in his top 3, right?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:04 PM
#68
So...
we are supposed to freak out because a recruit who said he was taking more visits...is taking more visits?
Okey dokie.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:08 PM
#69
Yes
Yes!
January 9th, 2013 at 5:08 PM
#70
Nothing is "on your own dime"
Nothing is "on your own dime" when you are a recruit visiting an SEC school...let alone Auburn.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:21 PM
#71
haha
He's ben considering them all along right? As Iceman said, Auburn and "on his own dime" don't do together.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:26 PM
#72
Everyone who works at Sam's
Everyone who works at Sam's Club is freaking out on their message board right now.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:41 PM
#73
But . . .
what about the dimes? Will you be spending yours or someone else's? Inquiring minds want to know . . . .
January 9th, 2013 at 6:13 PM
#74
A word of warning:
Never go full retail!
January 9th, 2013 at 5:28 PM
#75
Yikes!
Its very possilbe that trip will cost you more than Green will spend traveling to Auburn this weekend. Be very careful.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:35 PM
#76
Nice
Free lunch
January 9th, 2013 at 5:26 PM
#77
Did he insist on being in the
Did he insist on being in the picture with the other Auburn recruits at the AU game? Then I will start to worry.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:31 PM
#78
Did Auburn have any recruits
Did Auburn have any recruits at the Army game?
(Serious question)
January 9th, 2013 at 5:39 PM
#79
(my bad, the Army game)
QB
(my bad, the Army game)
QB Jeremy Johnson was the only Auburn commit at the Army All-American game. They had like 4 or 5 at the UA game.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:32 PM
#80
Brent Musburger recommends
Brent Musburger recommends exuding confidence
January 9th, 2013 at 10:39 PM
#81
Jerry?
Seinfeld? Brent has a little bit of that look, yes?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:27 PM
#82
just checking to see how much
just checking to see how much money AU will offer him.. then HE GONE
January 9th, 2013 at 5:27 PM
#83
Honestly,
If we don't land Green, I may break my own tibia out of frustration.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:51 PM
#84
Cash in mail to Green
I stuck it inside an Auburn postcard to persuade him.
We want video of the tibia breaking and don't try to use Fitz's injury in place of your leg.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:17 PM
#85
Too soon? Too soon.
Too soon? Too soon.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:27 PM
#86
Tangent
While thinking about this, I took a peek at Auburn's recruiting class. How is it that they already have 3 players that have signed LOI's?? I see that all three are JUCO types... are there different rules for kids transferring vs. kids coming out of high school?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:33 PM
#87
Yes, there are. JUCO's can
Yes, there are. JUCO's can sign as early as December...I think.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:06 PM
#88
Uhhh
Early enrollees all have to sign an LOI. We have six.
EDIT: And mid-year JUCO transfers can sign as early as mid-December...
January 9th, 2013 at 6:03 PM
#89
.
Look at our list on rivals. It has six of our guys as already signed.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:28 PM
#90
Why is everyone
Why is everyone in this thread so casually stating that a recruit who we really want is taking (or is about to take) impermissable benefits from another school? Or do you people just not want him to come here anymore?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:36 PM
#91
Actually, Auburn wisely gives
Actually, Auburn wisely gives the impermissable benefits to the recruit's parents, that way they can honestly deny giving anything to the recruit.
(See Newton, Cecil)
January 9th, 2013 at 5:59 PM
#92
I'm not in favor of posts that suggest that, but
if those posts are enough to keep him away, I'm thinking they have done Michigan a service.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:20 PM
#93
I'm not suggesting
I'm not suggesting that reading this thread would keep him from coming to Michigan. I am questing the mindset of a lot of people here, who seem to be saying that it is a foregone conclusion that Green will take the benefits.
These people either no longer want Green to come to Michigan since he is taing this unofficial visit, which I think is ridiculous, or they still want him to come here and don't care whether he takes the benefits from another school, which I think is even worse.
Call me crazy, but I'd like to assume that our recruits do not break NCAA rules until I see actual evidence to the contrary.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:37 PM
#94
Ok, I see where you are coming from.
If Hoke & Co. have some method of only going after the ones who would not, I'm good with that. Personally, I don't see us wanting a recruit and that recruit (or his parents) being willing to take money or other benefits as being mutually exclusive.
As far as it being a mindset, I think you are reading more into the comments than the writers intended. I do think that most of them think it is a foregone conclusion that said benefits might be offered.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:43 PM
#95
Someone please splain me
Auburn's appeal. I drove through there one time on the way to somewhere else and it seemed like the bottom of the backside of beyond.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:58 PM
#96
Did you actually drive
Did you actually drive through Auburn or just through the surrounding area? I stayed in Auburn for a weekend a few years back, and found it to have a rather nice, small town appeal. The surrounding area (Columbus, GA, etc.), however, is absolutely horrible.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:43 PM
#97
Shadyness
His recruitment has seemed very odd to me. His final three schools are Michigan, Tennessee and Auburn. Is it me or does one of these stick out like a sore thumb?
Tennessee and Auburn are notorious for using shady recruiting tactics. If he ends up at one of those schools there is no way I could be convinced there wasn't recruiting violations.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:53 PM
#98
Well, you stand alone with
Well, you stand alone with that belief. There are a million sources that cite the squeaky clean recruiting practices of those programs. Mostly ESPN, but whatever.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:45 PM
#99
Getting him seems unlikely
Getting him seems unlikely now. When's the last time Michigan landed a top 10 FB recruit?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:52 PM
#100
...
To everyone like this guy: Did you watch the National Championship Game and see Eddy Lacey run the ball. How can you say you wouldnt want something like that.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:57 PM
#101
Yes, sir.
I commented the other day in a different thread that Green strikes me as our Lacey. Strong, solid, decent feet and ability to wear down defenses.
We still need Deveon or another back (Mixon in 2014) to be a second threat, like TJ Yeldon.
Lacy's running in NCG was his best showing by far and he made the OL look even better.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:55 PM
#102
Step away from the ledge,
Step away from the ledge, dude. It's a little early to hit the panic button.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:53 PM
#103
Good point
Good thing Shane Morris didn't have a good senior year and land in the top ten, cuz that dude woulda been gone.
January 9th, 2013 at 5:53 PM
#104
(No subject)
January 9th, 2013 at 5:55 PM
#105
...
Has anyone confirmed this yet, I havent seen anything official?
January 9th, 2013 at 5:57 PM
#106
Maybe he just wants to see if
Maybe he just wants to see if he can get a closer look at Kathrine Webb?
January 9th, 2013 at 6:00 PM
#107
Brent offered to chaperone
He can deliver his apology in person. Hold on, now Kirk is joining the travel party also.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:19 PM
#108
Are you kidding? Brent is
YoBoMoLlo, are you kidding? Brent Musberger is staking out A.J.'s place in a Dish Network van, wearing camo and eyeblack on his face. He has his ghillie in the back for nighttime reconnaissance missions.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:25 PM
#109
I wonder when Brent
will decide AJ's mom is a better target for his efforts?
She might move slow enough for him to catch and she might not notice his analgesic scent.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:56 PM
#110
I'm not familiar with the
I'm not familiar with the "analgesic scent."
January 9th, 2013 at 6:25 PM
#111
I think we'd all be OK with
I think we'd all be OK with that. But until then, we'll play the 'higher stars is more likely to be successful' game.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:04 PM
#112
Yes, but annecdotal evidence
Yes, but annecdotal evidence doesn't really tell the whole story. If that's all you wanna look at, how about this?
Last year, Alabama signed TJ Yeldon (5*, 12th overall player) and Kenyan Drake (4*). Both run behind the same line. Yeldon runs for 1131 with another 1000 yard rusher on the team. Drake runs for 285. Which one would you rather have?
Last year, Miami signed Duke Johnson (5*, 30th overall player) and Danny Dillard (3*). Both run behind the same line. Johnson runs for 977 yards, leading the team. Dillard redshirted. Which one would you rather have?
Last year, Texas signed Johnathan Gray (5*, 5th overall player) and Daje Johnson (4). Both run behind the same line. Gray runs for 740 yards, leading the team. Johnson had 225 yards.
Rankings are obviously not perfect, but they exist for a reason.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:28 PM
#113
Jesus, everybody needs to get
Jesus, everybody needs to get off the ledge. This kid is a big time recruit. Big time recruits take multiple visits and usually drag their commitments out until signing day. If we want an elite recruit, these are the kinds of things you deal with.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:03 PM
#114
Comment redacted due to the
Comment redacted due to the facts below.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:42 PM
#115
He said he was taking visits
He said he was taking visits to everyone remaining. He needs to see Auburn with Gus. Wouldn't worry that much.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:56 PM
#116
This
This thread never happened.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:53 PM
#117
This is how I'm picturing the visit
Derrick Green almost makes it to the Alabama State border, then all of a sudden....
Then Derrick Green will truck Gandalf over the edge, muttering something about taking his visits. I've never been to Alabama, but I just assume there are volcanic like structures that ancient creatures dwell in.
Then while gandalf is hanging over the edge, he says
This foe is beyond you, Derrick Green
Then Derrick will retreat north bypassing Virginia, and heading straight to protection of Hoke the Elder.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:01 PM
#118
Based upon your username and this post, I must ask-
When was the last time you had sex...with a woman?
January 9th, 2013 at 7:04 PM
#119
Hmm
Well, in order to have this account, my wife said that I have to let my daughters name it. So, Lord Voldemort it is. And if you have a problem with Lord of the Rings, you can indeed go fuck yourself.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:09 PM
#120
You needed your wife's
You needed your wife's permission to have an MGo account? Way to wear the pants there, Ron Weasley...
January 9th, 2013 at 7:14 PM
#121
In my defense
My wife is better looking than me, and she hates sports, but I enjoy sex. It's really a solid trade off for me.
Once I google Ron Weasley, I will have a scathing retort.
January 9th, 2013 at 11:59 PM
#122
You sir have my eternal
You sir have my eternal respect
January 9th, 2013 at 6:55 PM
#123
okay, even if we don't end up
okay, even if we don't end up with green, any back is only as good as his offensive line. if alabama had a crappy line, tj yeldon and eddie lacy would look pretty crappy, too. their stats are so outrageous because they aren't touched until they're already 4-5 yds downfield. last i checked, our offensive line recruiting haul was tops in the nation. guys like kalis, magnuson, kugler, bosch, dawson, and the list goes on and on, are going to make whoever we put in the backfield look good. damn good. whether its derrick green or deveon smith. lets also not forget that mike hart was a lowly 3-star when he committed. last i checked, his career at Michigan turned out alright. green would be a great get, but i have just as much confidence in deveon smith to carry the load.
January 9th, 2013 at 6:57 PM
#124
Deus Ex Machina
I don't know where it's coming from, or how, but we'll get him!
January 9th, 2013 at 7:00 PM
#125
Well if you read some of the
Well if you read some of the "if he's going to visit an SEC school that just proves he's a liar and a thief" crowd comments above this only means Auburn has developed more stealthy means of funnelling money to him.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:03 PM
#126
I still feel like he's going
I still feel like he's going to Michigan. He says he knows where he is going but hasn't committed because of Hokes visit policy and he just wants to enjoy the rest of his recruitment. Just my thoughts.
January 9th, 2013 at 7:05 PM
#127
Auburn is in the SEC so I
Auburn is in the SEC so I doubt it's on his own dime
January 9th, 2013 at 7:06 PM
#128
Mike Farrell@rivalsmike
No
Mike Farrell@rivalsmike
No visits for RB Derrick Green this weekend. Family taking break after San Antonio for #ArmyBowl
