If you're gonna go please be in the first round.
Derrick Green reportedly down to two
December 17th, 2012 at 9:47 PM
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Derrick Green reportedly down to two
@NeylandNews: Per Brent Hubbs, it's down to UT and Michigan to land highly coveted '13 VA RB 5* Derrick Green, with his mother... http://t.co/cMV6uRV2
Never heard of this guy, and Mike Farrell has usually had the best info when it comes to Derrick Green, and he hasn't reported this yet.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:51 PM | 
I hope it's not true his
I hope it's not true his
December 17th, 2012 at 9:54 PM |
Landon Collin's mother disagrees...
Landon Collin's mother disagrees...
Reporter: “Did you visit the Parthenon while in Greece?”
Shaquille O’Neill: “I can’t really remember the names of all the clubs we went to.”
December 17th, 2012 at 10:13 PM |
Other than the cat
Other than the cat
that committed to Cal(?) without them offering him, this was my favorite recruiting WTF.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:39 PM |
I think you mean this cat, Kevin Hart
I think you mean this cat, Kevin Hart
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gen...
Who faked a news conference in 2008 and took a couple years off and signed with a Division II school......in 2012, at 22 years old.
He still has two years left of eligibility.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7525340...
Go Blue!!!!!!
December 18th, 2012 at 12:21 AM |
alright
alright
Alright alright
Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05
December 18th, 2012 at 4:33 AM |
You gon' learn today!!!!
You gon' learn today!!!!
You gon' learn today!!!!
December 18th, 2012 at 2:53 AM |
Or the kicked who committed
Or the kicked who committed
Or the kicked who committed to us only because he thought Harbaugh was coming...
December 17th, 2012 at 9:57 PM |
Didn't Derrick's mom
Didn't Derrick's mom
Didn't Derrick's mom absolutely love Hoke?
December 17th, 2012 at 10:09 PM |
Hoke makes mothers melt.
Hoke makes mothers melt.
Hoke makes mothers melt. This is fact.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:52 PM |
I wonder what the "Hoke can't
I wonder what the "Hoke can't
I wonder what the "Hoke can't close the deal" crowd will say when/if we land Green?
"The straightest line from A to B is straight: From A to B"
"When you have Denard Robinson, you can have everything"
~George Walden
December 17th, 2012 at 10:32 PM |
IF!!
IF!!
It happens..they'll just remind us of all the ones he didn't get.
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
December 17th, 2012 at 10:40 PM |
Now I'm not saying we've landed
Now I'm not saying we've landed
all the skill players we've wanted to. But shouldn't we cut Hoke & co. some slack and see how York, Dukes, Jones, Darboh, Chesson, Deveon Smith do at the collegiate level before saying we can't land elite skill players? These coaches don't look at Rivals to see whom they should recruit. Mike Hart was a 3*. But does that mean he was doomed to a career of mediocrity from the outset? absolutely not.
"This is an elite job, and will continue to be an elite job. This is Michigan ferodsakes!"
December 17th, 2012 at 10:49 PM |
And...
And...
Jake Long was a 4* and Henne a 5*. All three were all-time greats. Agreed that stars do not translate always (or even usually) into collegiate performance.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:30 PM |
Or even usually?
Or even usually?
Let's be real here - the recruits with higher rankings usually have those rankings because they have a higher probablity of being a star (pun) as opposed to the lower ranked recruits.
I find it funny to look at every years draft and see how many 2 and 3 stars were drafted as high as the 1st round, but then I look at the 5 stars and see that it's typical most (95%) 5 star recruit that made it through college ball will get drafted somewhere.
As opposed to 4 and 5 star players, 2 and 3 star players make up just as much or slightly more of the nfl draft. However there are so many more of them it's what we'd expect.
December 18th, 2012 at 2:16 AM |
Probabilities are great statistics
Probabilities are great statistics
But when you're applying that rule to individuals, and those individuals need to fit a system, its just one measure. So, while its a great tool, its not the end all.
The coaches are not going to get everyone they want, but its a puzzle, and they're looking for the pieces that fit THEIR plan..not ours. If a kid doesn't want to come here, and its someone the coaches have targeted, then its not a good fit for both parties. So, I really hope Green feels Michigan is the right fit for him, but if he doesn't, he shouldn't come here. That part is not rocket science.
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
December 17th, 2012 at 11:45 PM |
Johnny Manziel was only a 3*
Johnny Manziel was only a 3*
Johnny Manziel was only a 3* prospect last year, what a difference a heisman makes.
December 18th, 2012 at 3:40 AM |
NO WAY!!!! I guess that does
NO WAY!!!! I guess that does
NO WAY!!!! I guess that does it then, we should just recruit 3 stars.
COYS and lets go Detroit FC!
December 18th, 2012 at 1:29 PM |
They do not always translate
They do not always translate
They do not always translate in any specific case, but if you look what teams are annually near to the top of the recruiting rankings, these are also the teams that are ranked high in the polls as well. That's not a coincidence. I'm sure if some of the MGoStatisticians around here were to start digging, you'd find strong correlation between the star rating of a team's recruiting classes and their rating in the polls.
"...what do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?"
"Fix the cigarette lighter."
December 17th, 2012 at 11:20 PM |
And what will you say
And what will you say
If we don't?
December 18th, 2012 at 10:22 AM |
They'll say, and I'll agree with them
They'll say, and I'll agree with them
That Green fell right into our lap. With Miami's sanctions, the train wreck that is Auburn, coaching change at Tennessee, etc...... Mark Dantonio could have recruited this kid to Michigan. I'll be ecstatic when we land him but it doesn't say much about Hoke's recruiting ability, either way, if we do.
December 18th, 2012 at 10:29 AM |
If the point of recruiting is
If the point of recruiting is
If the point of recruiting is to get good players, and Michigan gets good players, then Hoke deserves credit for recruiting those players.
December 21st, 2012 at 11:29 AM |
What?
What?
Micihigan's Rivals ranking under Hoke
2011 - 21 (salvaged over the span of 3 weeks) - 3rd best in B1G
2012 - 7 - 2nd best in B1G
2013 - 5 (currently) - Best class in B1G
Yeah, you're right, Hoke sucks at recruiting.
"...what do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?"
"Fix the cigarette lighter."
December 18th, 2012 at 12:09 PM |
It won't change perspective.
It won't change perspective.
Everyone is applying their own standard to the "evaluation" of recruiting:
Is the #5 class the standard? #4 with key playmakers? #7 with a dominant line? Finish higher ranked than OSU and ND?
I would offer the following: As long as UM has talent to win 10+ games and the recruiting class is ranked top 10, then our recruiting is an A. Win 10+ and top 3 class, then A+. (Yep, grading staffs on recruitingtia a combination of 2-3 years).
I think it would be a great thread to debate the grading scale ...
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
December 17th, 2012 at 9:52 PM |
If we lose him to Butch
If we lose him to Butch
If we lose him to Butch Jones's offense I'll burn this mother down.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:57 PM |
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December 17th, 2012 at 9:52 PM |
If this is true, saying it
If this is true, saying it
If this is true, saying it out loud tastes almost as good as my Jameson.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:52 PM |
This isn't the first time
This isn't the first time
This isn't the first time someone has reported Green's mother preferring he stay south. I hope the coaches can over come her reservation, if it does exist.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:53 PM |
When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....
December 17th, 2012 at 10:21 PM |
Ha
Ha
Nice, very nice.
...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...
December 17th, 2012 at 9:57 PM |
Seems to me that while we've
Seems to me that while we've
Seems to me that while we've been offering wide receivers, linebackers, dbs, etc., we haven't been offering running backs. Could that be a tipoff?
December 17th, 2012 at 9:57 PM |
I swear I remember early in
I swear I remember early in
I swear I remember early in the HS football season, Green saying that he was going to announce in like November. Maybe the coaching changes at some of his top schools delayed things. Has anyone heard and rumors of if he may announce at the All-American game or if there is no time schedule on the table.
Lloyd Brady is my homeboy...for real he is!
December 17th, 2012 at 10:00 PM |
I haven't heard a time table,
I haven't heard a time table,
I haven't heard a time table, but signing day is in 6 weeks with Christmas and NYD in between, so the window isn't very big anyway.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:57 PM |
Their OL recruiting the last
Their OL recruiting the last
Their OL recruiting the last couple years has been the exact opposite of ours. They brought in zero (0) OL recruits in 2012, and currently have 3 in 2013, one 4 star and two 3 stars, one of which is Dan Skipper. Maybe Hoke wants Skipper so that Green will see he won't have anyone to run behind at UT.
December 17th, 2012 at 9:58 PM |
Yeah, not sure how much stock
Yeah, not sure how much stock
Yeah, not sure how much stock into this. The guy who reported it only has 200ish followers.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:14 PM |
He's legit. Local UT football
He's legit. Local UT football
He's legit. Local UT football reporter that is pretty well respected.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:23 PM |
Local
Local
Local UT reporter wanting more attention and followers.
THIS IS MICHIGAN
December 17th, 2012 at 9:58 PM |
Thank you he who must not be
Thank you he who must not be
Thank you he who must not be named.
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
December 17th, 2012 at 9:59 PM |
Those
Those
Those damn mothers... Gotta love em
December 17th, 2012 at 10:08 PM |
I'm surprised Hubbs can comment
I'm surprised Hubbs can comment
As an employee of the Vol network owned by UT, Hubbs would seem bound by the same recruiting silence as any other AD employee. I don't care that he did, but the NCAA has some Draconian rules.
Just consider the source - he is a paid cheerleader for UT. We probably should rely on Farrell ...
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
December 17th, 2012 at 10:59 PM |
Yewh, he most likely just committed an NCAA violation.
Yewh, he most likely just committed an NCAA violation.
There's a reason you don't here guys like Doug Karsch talk about specific recruits, just recruiting at large, even if they have other jobs.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
December 18th, 2012 at 12:59 AM |
i ask because i honestly
i ask because i honestly
i ask because i honestly don't know any better but i looked at dead period and quiet period rules and i didn't see anything regarding statements from the university or anything like that as being a rules violation, only against contact beyond "hello" to recruits. what am i missing as far as any rules being broken?
December 18th, 2012 at 12:24 PM |
Any time until signed
Any time until signed
NCAA rules prohibit coaches, university players and school officials from any public comments about a recruit or their recruiting situation (ie, can't praise a HS coach in a press conf).
Thus the silence on almost anything related to recruiting by coaches until NSD when they'll give a blurb about individual kids.
Have to rely on recruits, their circle of influence and recruiting pundits for news until NSD.
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
December 17th, 2012 at 10:08 PM |
Dawson is in his ear. He
Dawson is in his ear. He
Dawson is in his ear. He comin'...
December 17th, 2012 at 10:17 PM |
If he comin'...
If he comin'...
from what Dawson's whispering...that's some really sweet, sweet nothings...
December 17th, 2012 at 10:20 PM |
Wow
Wow
you really went there. I feel dirty.
Semper Fidelis!
December 17th, 2012 at 10:23 PM |
idk what this means, but sounds good?
idk what this means, but sounds good?
@BrOoKyLn_boii27 LET'S FOOL BRUH
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
December 17th, 2012 at 10:25 PM |
I also have no idea what that
I also have no idea what that
I also have no idea what that means, but I'm 100% sure it means Green is coming to Michigan.
December 17th, 2012 at 10:57 PM |
If you're 100% sure, doesn't that mean you know what it means?
If you're 100% sure, doesn't that mean you know what it means?
COME AT ME, LSAT LOGIC GAMES. They're pretty much the same thing, right?
Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:24 PM |
Apparently sarcasm
Apparently sarcasm
Was not part of your LSAT prep. Unless of course you were also being sarcastic, in which case, never mind.
December 17th, 2012 at 11:24 PM |
It all depends on what
It all depends on what
It all depends on what "means" means.
I hope it's not true his mother is pushing UT because of distance - moms can have a lot of influence over these things.