Ole Miss where good players go to never pan out.
Derrick Green Post #135
Eli Manning has two Super Bowl rings.
Michael Oher is the starting LT for the Baltimore Ravens.
Granted Ole Miss isn't Alabama, but they produce some decent talent from time-to-time.
Oher's the RT in Baltimore
They've also produced Patrick Willis, Mike Wallace, Deuce McAllister, BenJarvus Green-Ellis & Dexter McCluster.
from the last 10 years. Awesome!
I don't think that the former players from Ole Miss are much of a draw. I think that it's the game day traditions and the women. Game day is supposed to be something special. It's definitely high on my "to do" list (along with Baton Rouge and Lincoln).
I've already been to Starkville, MS for a Mississippi State game. Nice enough....but not really impressive.
Don't forget the good ole, down home racism that is pertinent everyday on campus there, except for Saturdays.
Not sure why you put the /s there. That seems like a pretty accurate statement.
The sarcasm was the implication that the racism would be a draw for recruits.
I have a feeling the gameday experience is pretty much the same everywhere. Everyone does the same things (band, tailgate, some form of parading the team) but some are better at hyping up there own traditions. I've been to a few places and haven't found much differences except in the south they dress nicer and drink less, which in turn makes the ladies seem a hell of a lot classier (not a difference I take lightly).
I can't remember who was doing the interview, but somebody once asked Keith Jackson what was the best campus gameday experience. He said (paraphrasing) they've got something special down there in Oxford, Mississippi.
All of this would be great...if you didn't have to, ya know, play a football game on Saturdays.
Maybe his mom "got that feeling" about the Grove, but Treadwell won't experience the festivities other than the Champion's walk.
For the fan, though, Oxford is a great game day destination.
Name one other big-time Ole Miss grad currently in the NFL.
Patrick Willis - 49ers
Cassius Vaughn starts at corner for the Colts.
As a Colts fan, I will speak for us all: we'd all be fine if Cassius Vaughn ended up on someone else's roster next year. Not exactly the best example of a "Big time NFL player".
Agreed, but all the "big time" guys are already listed above. Vaughn is simply an example of another starter in the league.
Don't forget Jevan Snead!
Well now, that's the example that makes Thad Matta's point...
I was just kidding. I think trying to list "recent" NFL players v. "recent" recruiting busts to sort out why a current recruit is considering a school is a fool's errand. Especially when we're throwing around players like Eli Manning and Jevan Snead as examples; it's not like the coaching staffs that coached either of those guys are still around.
Just about everyone produces decent talent from time to time. Purdue and Illinois are currently churning out some quality NFL D-line talent. Every blind squirrel finds an NFL acorn every few years
Hugh Freeze and staff (Ole Miss coaches) seem to be doing something very right down there. Obviously, playing time is a possibility immediately for a lot of recruits, but he's doing a really great job for a program that hasn't done much of anything (outside of a good LB and Eli Manning) in the last 50 years or so.
A while ago I read Meat Market by Bruce Feldman. Its an older book (2007 I believe) which Feldman followed former Ole Miss head coach Ed Orgeron around for a couple of seasons. The focus was specifically on recruiting. Also on staff was Hugh Freeze, which hes labeled as one of the best recruiters. It also gives insight as to what goes on and how they recruit.
They dont hide the fact they use the prettiest co-eds to give recruits tours. They set strict rules though for the ladies. Such as no sex, drugs, or alcohol, etc. Also, they use an online academic program from BYU to help some recruits who are on the fringe grades wise. Not sure if the program is still used or not. But some recruits found that compelling. They use The Grove and the facilities as a key selling point, too. The book mentioned recruits saying how pretty the ladies were and how much fun they had. No shocker there. A lot of recruits loved Hugh Freeze which could explain why some of the elite prospects are considering Ole Miss.
There are some more factors but I cant remember them. This was just to give some insight about Ole Miss and why Treadwell and others are considering them. I know its an old book but relevant bc Freeze was there before and now hes the HC.
Yes, very weird how the whole Treadwell thing turned out. Maybe Ole Miss is SMU re-born.
We're about to have as many DG threads as Lewan!
It doesn't make any sense at all. Id understand if they' were landing a bunch of 4* players but this is crazy! Landing two players who are in the top ten for a middle of the road to bottom SEC team sounds VERY fishy
One word answer to your question - sundresses . . . .
Those are some beautiful sundresses. Wouldn't you like to ask them to throw a football around?
"I've decided to take an official visit to Ole Miss"
-high school male
No Kate Upton, that's for sure.
Live down south and this is everywhere.. not impressed
They apparently do not sell bras in Mississippi. One or two of those girls could use some serious support. (By girls, I'm referring to the people and not their "girls.")
Financial support? Life support? Air support? I don't get it.
support. The chick in the white top is taller than the girl to her left but her bewbs hang much lower. The one on the far right is also sagging a bit. I am clearly proving the theory that something is not funny if you have to explain it.
I'll admit it. We went down to Ole Miss in the 2011 season to see what all the hoopla was about. It defeinitely lived up to the hype, and I highly suggest anyone able to to make the trip. Tickets are very, very cheap, for great seats. Also, not only are the girls as gorgeous as the ones you google, but the tailgaters are super friendly. Invited into a few tailgates to eat and drink as we please, and stopped by numerous other fans just to chat. Of course there were the jeers and the like, but nothing harsh. In addition, we even saw another group of Michigan fans from afar. Make the trip!
You should visit my blog more often (or for the first time):
I can only visit your blog after 5 pm. Those girls come out of nowhere!
They're usually bumped down the page by 7 a.m.
I just thought I'd share.
That guy is head of the PoliSci department at Ole Miss, thank you very much . . .
Ole Miss has a PolSci dept?
Hot [insert SEC school] girls and you should be good to go
if you never want to worry about them actually making a good team even better. These top flight guys will go to Ole Miss, put up some stats, finish 2-6 in the SEC every year, you'll forget about them, then they'll be drafted in the 3rd round in 4-5 years and you'll be like "Oh! That guy. What happened to him?"
I've never been so sick of hearing a recruits name that will never play for Michigan.
or something like that? Recruits who's names gets thrown around more than Lisa Ann.
Treadwell, Kozan, and Diggs would definitely be starters.
Kozan to Kozan
*Cough* *Cough* RoJo.
But what about Alex Kozan?
draft picks stay for 5 years.
He's a interesting recruit to me as well. He would be the highest rated player in the 2013 class for Michigan. However, I've heard analyst basically say he's a glorified FB in their opinion. On the other hand Shane Morris is considered a can't miss recruit by most, but he isn't ranked as high. It's kind of confusing. I'm starting to wonder if some of these so called recruiting experts even scout these kids in person. I listen to Bill King and he has guests on his show that answer recruiting questions. I swear that you could call in to one of those shows and ask about a commit from Montana State and they would talk about the kid for five minutes. There is no way that one guy has the time to properly evaluate every single commit in the country. Recruiting is turning into a big business and people are pouncing at a chance to make money off of it. I'm starting to think that 247 and ESPN suck compared to Scout and Rivals.
Some of these guys have full-time jobs that involve recruiting. Not to toot my own horn, but I have a couple jobs and - because I'm stupid - still find time to watch film on probably 200-300 recruits in each class. Naturally, I would expect that they spend much more time evaluating each recruit than I do, but if your job was to sift through film for 8 hours a day, I don't think keeping up with most of these kids would be extremely difficult. I mean, it would be a full-time job, but I don't think it would be impossible to have a pretty good idea about a large portion of these guys. And, of course, there are large staffs to help out the heads of ESPN, Rivals, etc.
And while I don't know the backgrounds of all the head recruiting analysts for each of the sites, I will say that the guys at ESPN and 247 at least have football backgrounds. As far as I know, Mike Farrell (Rivals) and guys like Allen Trieu (Scout, though he's not the head guy) are just journalists. Someone can feel free to correct me if they know better. I still think ESPN is lacking in many ways, and 247 is kind of too young to judge very well, but...well...there it is.
I wish all those recruits would've visited Ole Miss the day after the election. #justsayin
Can someone who may have visited Ole Miss or is from the South explain this to me? Because as a Nothern Black Male, I can't fathom going to Ole Miss no matter how attractive the women are because of how racist it is. I can understand most of the other schools because they are good and have a good shot of getting you ready for the NFL but Ole Miss sucks and yet they are in play for 3 5 stars. Maybe my perception of Ole Miss is warped but I can't understand it.
I currently live in New Orleans and work with a group of girls from Ole Miss. They have a great outlook, fun attitude, know how to cut loose, are smart and oh yeah, are downright beautiful. After hanging out with them for several years, they invited my wife and I to a game at Ole Miss vs LSU. Oxford is a great small city with plenty of good music and nice architecture. The game day experience was awesome and the off field talent was remarkable. I have two sons that both want to attend UofM, but I have to consider that they may not get accepted there or that there might not be enough scholarships available to help with the out of state tuition so I was thinking that Ole Miss might be a better option than LSU (having been to Baton Rouge also). But you are right, the racism is overpowering and I can't imagine how enjoyable an experience it would be for a minority and don't think that is someplace I want my kids to attend.
It's simple, offer the recruit's Dad a new job. You're bound to get a bunch of recruits that way.
Ole Miss players get movies made about them... ie, Michael Oher...
From now on I will simply refer to Treadwell as the player who shall not be named
money,money is the answer to everything. oh yeah i forgot to mention..hot women also help bring in recruits.