Derrick Green to Michigan looking brighter
http://247sports.com/Article/Greg-Bryant-and-Derrick-Green-could-go-to-Auburn-Michigan-83009
Tremendous just re-tweeted this article from 247 and the word is that Auburn is the front runner to land Oklahoma de-commit Greg Bryant, seeing as how they will only take one more running back and how Derrick Green's top two schools were Auburn and Michigan you can see how this helps.
EDIT: I apologize, I made the assumption from reading this article that his top two were Auburn and Michigan, he hasn't even released his top five yet so his recruitment obviously has a long way to go still.
So pull the trigger DG! We love your game and want you in BLUE.
Definitely, we want GREEN to be BLUE!! (Best thing for all green if you ask me.)
Let's hope so. Green looked happy at the BBQ and seemed to get along with everyone great. He would be a nice fit.
I wouldn't read too much into this other than the obvious, "If Auburn picks up a 4/5 star RB, we would be the unquestioned leaders for D. Green".
Then again we lost 2 OL in 2012 to Auburn when they seemed "full" at that position, so anything can happen. Also what has been reported from the mouths of D. Green and his family suggests that he isn't exactly looking to end this process this week (although anything can change).
He's a player I would love to get on campus for a game. If he enjoyed the BBQ, he will LOVE a home game.
I agree, people put way too much weight on "school X just took a guy at that position so he must like us more now."
Derrick Green is the top RB in the country, or close to it. Auburn will likely take him no matter what, nor will he be scared off by other backs. I don't think this means much, unless and until Green says that it does.
... but man Auburn seems like a really dirty program.
How about Clemson? They seem shady to me, it seems every top player has Clemson in their final group. I don't know, maybe people say the same thing about Michigan, although i can see the appeal of going to a school like Michigan... Clemson not so much, is South Carolina that nice? I've never been.
Is gorgeous.
South Carolina has better weather and similar golf. Southern belles as well.
I live in the Northeast, but the only football I care about is Michigan Football! #GoBlue
and their house is a mile or so away from Death Valley, the town and the locale is beautiful and there are pretty co-ed's everywhere. I always like going there to visit my Mom.
Safe sex in South Carolina is done by placing signs on the animals that kick. Coastal S.C is nice, but what beach anywhere doesn't have some borges to it. Hope I'm missing the joke and you're not serious Mr.Mario86
I live in Clemson. It is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. The only problem with Clemson is all the Clemson fans. You have beautiful lakes and mountains. Also right between atlanta and Charlotte
South Carolina is a beautiful state with some EXCELLENT food.
That being said, Clemson is dirty (see any picture of a recruit holding a stack of 100's and it is a Clemson recruit).
are attractive, but scratch the surface and it's about the most southern state, values-wise, excepting AL and MS. Would not be the place for me.
I've lived in Charleston SC for seven years and its awesome. Columbia sucks ass, as do most places in state.
But Clemson is cool. It's a small town in the foothills, and has a lot of lakes and other nature-type stuff around it. The campus is really prettyu, and so are the ladies. I've been to a few games there, and the atmosphere is awesome. The team is always in the thick of the ACC title hunt and they have a decent NFL track record.
Being that he is the #1 RB in the nation (Rivals), I wouldn't expect him to commit anytime soon.
I think that there is an error in your logic.
And what might that be, sir? Since he is the top RB, I don't think the coaches are really going to pressure him too hard to commit. I'm guessing our last two spots are being held for Green and Treadwell whenever they are ready.
The #1 RB according to Rivals for the class of 2012 committed almost 10 months before signing day. Johnathan Gray-->Texas.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Derrick-Green-109982
Maybe I'm missing something. It lists Derrick Green as a running back, and ranking position is #1.
Who said anything about 2012?
You said, :Being that he is the #1 RB in the country (Rivals), I wouldn't expect him to commit anytime soon."
The next guy said there is error in your logic.
You asked, "And what might that be sir?"
I said Class of 2012 #1 RB (Rivals) committed 10 months before NSD. I was answering your question about the error of your logic. Derrick Green is class of 2013. Gray was class of 2012.....are ya with me?
Nope, not really
some of the other top schools have either dropped him or are pursuing other guys as hard? We seem to be one of the few focused just on him alone at RB. This could help us I imagine, but it's weird to me that schools seem to be dropping out of the running for him, which you would not expect at all for Rivals #1 rated RB in the country. Or maybe I'm wrong about this
Green is 10th to 247, 6th to ESPN, 7th to Scout. Other schools have cooled on him for various reasons, so you can figure out which is the more accurate assesment of his recruiting profile.
Not a great argument since he's a unanimous top-10 RB, so even if you used the worst ranking, only 9 teams will have a back ranked higher than him.
for why he isn't treated like the #1 back in the country -- because he isn't the #1 back in country.
Rivals is an outlier. Not sure what you're trying to argue about. No one is disputing that he's a good player AFAIK.
I think his point was that what these schools choose to do in his recruiting might be more of an accurate assessment of how great he is as a recruit compared to how the recruiting sites have him ranked (i.e., the schools might not think as highly of him as the recruiting sites).
Or it could just be that the other schools see the writing on the wall that DG has already made up his mind and don't want to waste any more time on him.
Either of those would be fair points, but neither of them were made. If he said, "Although every site has him in the top-10, the behavior of the schools suggests they all have him a little overrated" it would be a legitimate point. But he suggested that the schools who listed him in the bottom of the top-10 were correct based on the behavior of the schools, which is silly because it's not like the #7 RB gets recruited much less than the #1 RB anyway.
You're not reading what I wrote and making things up. I didn't say he was overrated by all of them - I said Rivals was an outlier and should be considered as such.
The #1 back can get treated differently from the #7 back. If you're a legitimate #1 overall player at a position it's extremely unlikely that multiple schools are going to turn you away. It's not uncommon for guys a tier down from that to be turned down do to school's circumstances. Are you arguing every recruit is treated the same? If not, where is the cutoff in rankings that you feel it's acceptable to differentiate at?
Green has a loaded offer list and is ranked as a top 10 player unanimously. He's a really highly regarded recruit, but he's not the #1 RB in the country.
Yes, I would argue that the #7 back is treated the same as the #1 back to almost every school in the country. Basically, every school except for those with commitments from the top 6 backs. If a guy is the top back on your board, it doesn't matter if you're #1 or #10, and with very few exceptions, Green would be the top back on almost every team's board.
Do we treat Treadwell differently than if he were the #1 WR?
On 247, there are only 6 schools who have a RB commit higher than Green, and the other sites are all fewer than that. So to nearly every other school (and even some of them who would want a second elite RB) Green might as well be the #1 kid in the country.
Is assuming every school has identical (or nearly identical) rankings when there is huge variance. I would guess that if you got an honest answer from 100 coaches about who the best RB recruit in the country was you'd get at least a dozen different answers. There are some schools out there that are going to treat the #14 ranked recruit as their #1 and other schools that are going to be totally uninterested in the the #5 ranked recruit. So, no, every school without a top 6 back is not going to treat Green like he is #1, but some schools that already have a higher ranked commit still might.
Michigan went harder after Issac and Wilkins than they did Green. For all we know, they might even like Shallman and Smith more - but they wan't multiple guys. Michigan doesn't view Green as the #1 back in the country - but they are treating him like it now that Issac and Wilkins have moved on. Other schools, including Ohio State (who is an obvious example of why your approach doesn't fly) are not only not treating him like the #1 back in the country but are all together turning him away.
There is a big difference between being the #1 available recruit on a given team's board and being the #1 recruit on a majority of team's board.
Taking account the above about variance - a #1 national back is going to get treated like it by MOST schools and turned away by very few. A #7 back is going to get less interest, relatively speaking, but will still get treated very well and receive plenty of attention. It's a matter of degree, sure, but it's a significant difference. One the OP noticed when he asked "if this guy is the #1 back in the country, why isn't he getting more love?"
You want to keep calling him the #1 back in the country because he's Michigan's top target -fine. But he's not ranked like it and he's not being treated like it.
To support your argument Wolvin, I'd say that there is little if any dropoff from 1 to 7 regardless of which site, or team is analyzing players.
DG has been pretty specific about what he's looking for with the schools that dropped him, and there simply wasn't a good fit. I could certainly see that at Ohio with Urban's offense, and DG wanting to be in more of a pro offense. Of course the other possible explanation is these schools believe he's made up his mind and it's not them.
I don't recall reading that DG declared a top two of Auburn and Michigan. Do you have source for that? I thought he was going to announce a top 5 this week sometime... and I'm sure Michigan and Auburn will be in it, but it may be maize colored glasses to assume those are his top 2.
Need Dawson and the 2013 offensive line recruits to send out lots of Love!
...that this turns out a lot like LaQuon Treadwell. They won't decide for a while, and people will swing both ways (every day) based on the slightest bit of news they hear.
If Derrick Green doesn't commit today he's totally Jordan Diamond.
And if he doesn't decide on NSD he is totally Alex Kozan!
Yup. And as the kid follows through with exactly what he told everyone he would do people will say he jerked them around and he's an attention hog. Folks will project their interest against his etc.
And in the end Hoke and Co. will have made Michigan stronger with or without DG so all the fussiness by fans is unnecessary. I hope it is with but only on DGs terms.(that meaning when he is ready)
Two things.
1. We have a good shot at this kid.
2. I'm not holding my breath waiting.
You should take out looking brighter from your title and watch the site freak out.
Yeah and watch me get negged to Bolivia, who has yet to win a medal in the 2012 olympics.
It will make me Blue...
Meh. I've seen this movie before and I know how it ends. Neg me if it feels good, but I don't expect Green or Treadwell to end up at Michigan.
I won't neg you because it feels good. I'll neg you because your expectations suck.
follow recruiting? If that's the way you think, I would advise not clicking on any threads that involve uncomitted prospects.
It was reported that OSU stopped recruiting Green but that was not true. There is an article on Rivals where Green said Urban wanted him to visit for FNL before visiting Michigan but he told OSU the offense was not a fit.
thanks brah!
I made you a cupcake