Depth chart released according to Rothstein (with details)

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August 29th, 2011 at 12:13 PM
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Depth chart released according to Rothstein (with details)

According to Mike Rothstein, a depth chart was released with Roh and Heininger at DE and RVB/Martin at DT, floyd and avery an "or" at CB and Mike Jones at Will.

[edit] More: Shaw OR Toussaint at RB. Gibbons or Wile at K. Wile OR Broekhuizen at P. Gallon, Grady, Smith

**[edit/more].  full depth chart here on p. 13:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/mich/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2011-1...

other notes:

- thomas gordon at free safety

- stephen hopkins listed on the depth chart (#4 RB)

- ricky barnum listed as LG (maybe injury isn't so bad?)

- countess backs up woolfolk and Brown 3rd (thought of brown more of a safety, guess i got that wrong)

- desmond morgan 4th at WILL.  Herron at 2, Hawthorne at 3

- beyer #3 at sam, behind C. Gordon and Ryan

- BWC martin's backup, QWash RVB's backup, Ash and Wilkins not listed.  Brink as Heininger's backup.  Jibreel backing up Roh.

- they only list 2 WR positions, but tay odoms is 3 behind hemingway and gallon on one of them.

- Isiah Bell LISTED on roster.  others who left (Barnett, Stokes, etc. aren't so it is pretty up t to date)

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August 29th, 2011 at 12:17 PM | Was Will Campbell part of the (Score:1)
bluebyyou
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Was Will Campbell part of the mix?

August 29th, 2011 at 12:22 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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I imagine BWC will be part of the rotation along the D-line.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:24 PM | He's (Score:2 Normal)
AAB
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backing up Martin.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:47 PM | BWC backing up Martin (Score:1)
Mat
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What we've heard all summer is that the move to the 3-tech will really help Campbell because he'll see more one-on-one matchups (he's too tall to maintain leverage vs double teams)...now he's backup up Martin?

I hope that's just a notational thing in the same way that Gallon will never be used in the same way that the outside WR he backs up is.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:17 PM | Heininger starting (Score:1)
Greg McMurtry
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jives with what Beavis posted.

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

August 29th, 2011 at 12:21 PM | I don't like the word "jives" (Score:3 Normal)
bouje13
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can we use "sparkles"?

He only got the job because he's a Michigan Man not because he was the best.  Is that what Michigan is all about?  You do the best, you get the job.  This MM meme is crap.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:27 PM | Or maybe jibes? Thought I (Score:3 Normal)
TSWC
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Or maybe jibes?

Though I do speak jive.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:30 PM | Haha whoops. (Score:1)
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You don't speak jive?

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

August 29th, 2011 at 12:47 PM | Not relevant to OP but I like it: (Score:1)
htownwolverine
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Who is Jon Falk?
August 29th, 2011 at 2:05 PM | My Boss (Score:1)
bobbyhill57
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I've been laughing so hard the last couple of weeks with the MGo Community my Boss just asked to see what I was looking at on the net!

 

Sorry, carry on.

 

August 29th, 2011 at 12:37 PM | That was Raback'ed (Score:2)
Bodogblog
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by none other than Raback it himself

August 29th, 2011 at 12:46 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Actually he held off on officially Rabacking it. Looks like he should have.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:20 PM | so what happend with brink (Score:4 Normal)
JohnnyBlue
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so what happend with brink then?

August 29th, 2011 at 12:23 PM | must've been beaten out by (Score:3 Insightful)
ish
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must've been beaten out by heininger.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:20 PM | Heininger not Brink? (Score:2)
Erik_in_Dayton
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Surprising.

It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra

                         

August 29th, 2011 at 12:26 PM | Guh (Score:1)
AAB
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That's a bit of a depressing defensive 2-deep.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

August 29th, 2011 at 1:00 PM | why is that depressing? (Score:2)
Bodogblog
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Martin/RVB/Roh have been assumed starters for a year.  Demens/Gordon

Ryan the same, and Mike Jones asserting himself is no problem for me - that's been a weak/questionable spot for a while.  The fact that Morgan is 4th is actually quite encouraging to me.

Gordon over Johnson is a bit of a surprise, but I think they're both good players. 

Heininger/Brink isn't the greatest, but WH was a serviceable run stopper 2 years ago (wasn't he? I don't remember), and he's gotten bigger since then.

August 29th, 2011 at 1:08 PM | Because any scenario (Score:1)
AAB
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in which Michigan's defense was significantly improved involved some of Michigan's highly-touted-but-yet-to-perform recruits (Washington, Campbell, Robinson) taking a big step forward.  Instead, none of them are starting, and we have a walk-on platoon at DE. 

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

August 29th, 2011 at 2:44 PM | oh I don't agree with that (Score:2)
Bodogblog
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reasons for improvement:
 - Woolfolk returns
 - Avery has experience
 - Roh not playing LB 
 - Jibreel Black no longer a true freshman
 - Carvin Johnson not starting at OLB
 - Gordon beats out Johnson at FS (I thought Carvin was pretty good)
 - scheme / coaching
 - actual blitz packages
 - Cam Gordon much bigger than last year
 - Full year of Demens
 - Martin/RVB/Roh/Demens/Gordon/Kovacs/Avery/Floyd all return

Against the one negative, the loss of Mouton.  We will improve significantly
 

August 29th, 2011 at 1:01 PM | why is that depressing? (Score:2)
Bodogblog
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Martin/RVB/Roh have been assumed starters for a year.  Demens/Gordon

Ryan the same, and Mike Jones asserting himself is no problem for me - that's been a weak/questionable spot for a while.  The fact that Morgan is 4th is actually quite encouraging to me.

Gordon over Johnson is a bit of a surprise, but I think they're both good players. 

Heininger/Brink isn't the greatest, but WH was a serviceable run stopper 2 years ago (wasn't he? I don't remember), and he's gotten bigger since then.

August 29th, 2011 at 2:20 PM | How is this depressing?  The (Score:1)
yoopergoblue
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How is this depressing?  The coaches will play the best guys no matter if they are walk-ons or former 5-star scholarship players.  

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

August 29th, 2011 at 12:27 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
FreddieMercuryHayes
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Well, let's hope our D staff can be like Nebraska's and turn these walk-ons into legitimate players. We're looking at 2 starting with a third looking to get serious PT. Really happy for all of them, but makes me a bit nervous.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:35 PM | - (Score:3 Normal)
Tha Quiet Storm
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Link is broken.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:38 PM | Yep, same here. (Score:1)
Moleskyn
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Yep, same here.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:39 PM | worked for me.  repasted.  (Score:2)
ish
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worked for me.  repasted.  try again.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:37 PM | i feel a lot better about (Score:2)
colin
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i feel a lot better about Heininger over Brink if only from a weight perspective.  still a walk on, but 30 lbs on the DL is a big deal.

...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:42 PM | note (Score:1)
snowcrash
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Morgan is listed 4th at WLB behind Jones, Herron, and Hawthorne so he may be able to redshirt. Ryan has apparently changed his number to 90.

August 29th, 2011 at 12:51 PM | Heininger and Mike Jones (Who?) (Score:1)
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I'll be paying close attention to these two since we haven't seen them play much.  Though I've heard that Mike Jones about to blow.

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

August 29th, 2011 at 12:55 PM | Cox is not listed, climb down (Score:1)
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Cox is not listed, climb down the ladder Magnus....

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-Tom Strobel

August 29th, 2011 at 1:06 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2)
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Perhaps this means he really can't figure out the playbook and he didn't actually punt RichRod's dog through the uprights. The only question is when he starts tweeting how he hates "Brady Choke" like he did about "DickRod."

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

August 29th, 2011 at 1:03 PM | Somebody call Mike Jones to congratulate him! (Score:2)
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(This is where I'd embed the Mike Jones phone number video if I wasn't on a train. )

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

August 29th, 2011 at 1:17 PM | Jake Ryan #90 now (Score:2)
MichiganMan_24_
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Jake Ryan #90 now

August 29th, 2011 at 1:21 PM | * (Score:1)
yossarians tree
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Ugghhh...I WANT to believe that good coaching and an extra year of experience will make these guys a surprise B1G contender, but...looks pretty thin in placs where it needs to be thick. This program has been leaking oil for the last six or seven years and it shows on this depth chart.

Damn, do you think Denard can win two games by himself? I actually think he can.

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"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.

August 29th, 2011 at 2:20 PM | Eliott Mealer (Score:1)
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#2 OG, right & left - nice to see.  Looks like he will def see the field this season.

GO BLUE!

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August 29th, 2011 at 3:31 PM | just fyi, the unoffficial (Score:1)
FingerMustache
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just fyi, the unoffficial two-deep (under "useful stuff") has been updated to reflect the info above

August 29th, 2011 at 3:41 PM | hmm (Score:2)
TrueBlue25
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Kinda surprised Jerald Robinson isn't even on there with how much the coaches mentioned him.

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