Heads are probably already rolling over this if there administration is got it's head on straight
Dennis Norfleet leads Detroit King to "Uncomfortable" Victory
Move on, they are chanting back and forth as kids. Young stupid kids that probably aren't thinking. Race is a weak excuse to inject. Educate the kids and move on. We need to treat everyone equal and as long as people scream racism it hurts that battle. Man up, educate and move on. You only live once and life isn't fair.
I think everyone is way too quick to play that card. DeLaSalle may or may not be both "entitled" and "elitist", but from my experience they use the same chants everywhere across football and basketball. My high school was 90% caucasian, and I remember they still used the flipping burgers thing.
If they treat everyone like shit, then they're not segregating anyone.
Racism just makes the story more provocative.
I doubt if De La Salle had been losing to a bunch of poor rural white kids, this story would have even been written.
However, whenever you can throw the racism tag in there you will always drum up page views.
man, we have turned racism into the most trivial offense possible.
Notice how the only people who seem to be upset are the adults?
Did the kids actually care? Nah they probably understood that its just part of the game and part of high school.
Was there a quote from a player who cared? Nah, they probably enjoyed the added intensity to the atmposphere.
From a King student who cared? Nah, they probably just had fun with it and will use it as ammunition for their own chants if the two schools meet again.
Nah, none of the actual high schoolers gave a damn. This is just adults trying to find a problem where there isn't one.
Some of the suggestions on this thread are laughable.
argumentum e silentio.
In the DetNews, there is an interesting allegation which would explain, although not excuse, the chants from DeLaSalle. The allegation is made that Detroit King fans chanted "You are gay," and "We have girls," and "Purple Pansies." The "Flip our burgers" chant was part of a back and forth chant dialogue.
Two rights do not make a wrong. And yet, this would help explain where these insults came from. I'd like to hear from someone who went to the game as to whether or not these allegations of dueling insults have merit.
Race, Religion, and Sexual Preference: they managed to hit the three hot button politically incorrect speech topics.
It is interesting, as an aside, that the reported insult (flip our burgers) was not explicitly racist, but rather socioeconomic and educational. Yet, it is clear that Foster and others connected the dots. Speaking of Foster, I find it interesting that he does not report at all on the alleged slurs from Detroit King. Either he didn't hear them, or he didn't ask about them, or they didn't happen, or they didn't fit into his narrative and his agenda for the article.
wasn't it a division of Cubans who invaded only to be roundly antagonized by said Wolverines?
Or were they actually Dominicans, trying to pass themselves off as more expensive Cubans... I forget.
It was Latin America AND the Soviets. But we stopped 'em cold.
I have experienced this kind of nonsense from another angle, less serious than the incident last night, but still bothersome: urban vs. rural.
I saw this far too often, most jarringly when I was a sportswriter. One year Fennville played a Grand Rapids school in the tournaments. The Blackhawks weren't hurt most by the 90-56 defeat. What was worse was the yells of of "farmer" and "stupid farmer" as their kids shot free throws -- even when their team was 30 points ahead. The irony was that those who were chanting it appeared to be very well fed. We talked often in the days following of the behavior of the fans from "So-Called Christian" High School.
Im sure DLS's principal had a very unpleasant day planned for those young men.
Where was the Detroit News when Livonia Stevenson would chant "C-C-Faggots! *clap clap clapclapclap*? Nowhere, because that wasn't newsworthy either.
Incidentally I was at the CC- WL Central game last night and one coordinated "you suck!" was enough to send two teachers into the middle of the student section to lay the law down.
Going to Catholic Central, I can say that this is not a representation of Catholic Schools and I don't know how this happened but it is very unfortunate.
Shane Morris there?!?!?!
I hope Dennis Norfleet becomes Darren Sproles 3.0, gets a $40 million dollar contract from the NFL and rolls up to this school in a chrome Lamborghini.
Or just stays classy.
First post and you muck up the entire thread
I am a pretty proud DLS alumni. But this is obviously incredibly embarrassing. There's no excuse for these cheers or behavior. I hope the King community will accept DLS's apology.
And I hope others won't judge the entire DLS community by the stupid actions of a few dumb kids. There's no question the DLS administration is embarrassed and will handle the situation appropriately.
This is wrong and out of line clearly to me and others on the board. I'm actually a little taken back by people defending and blowing off these actions. But if you feel this is nothing you probably came up a certain way and did the same things. Just because you can relate doesn't mean its right.
its never about race to some people... even when it clearly is.
I hope the DLS coaches or school admins scolded the student body and fans afterwards and issued an apology to those kids. Alittle fun ribbing is to be expected at a sports event between local schools but this was just way out of line. Sucks too that these idiots now put a black eye on their entire school, even those who had nothing to do with this filth at the game.
They not only scolded the students after the game, they scolded them during it. The person mentioned in the article scolding the students was the Athletic Director. And he didn't leave, as the article said.
And there was an apology call and letter sent by the DLS administration to King as well as a call into Tom Markowski (you can see it in the News).
and like someone else said as well, these aren't college age adults or older pro athletes. They're just kids. And kids shouldn't have to worry about if they're going to be slandered about their race or economic standing at a fraking basketball game.
I graduated from a Catholic HS here in Columbus. We used to get rocked by Alex Kellogg (yes, as in son of Clark) and a stellar full-court locomotive during our rivalry games. However, football was more competitive and seeing how our school had just won a state title recently, the furthest our chants ever went were: "Lets play football", when the scoreboard would read 65-35 or whatever have you.
Because little did we know...somebody out there was watching, waiting...to make an example of you. And I did not particularly care for walking into school still drunk or hungover for Saturday (wallow in your shame) school.
Here is a comment on the article that I find, to use a common adjective we all know well here at Mgoblog, very insightful :
"DLS has recycled the same chants for years and used them on multiple schools of varying backgrounds. It doesn't matter if it is King, Mott, Cousino, Brother Rice, CC, Trenton the chants are the same. You know what we get in return. "You are gay", "We have girls", "Purple Pansies" etc. EVERY SINGLE GAME. We threw out "flip our burgers", I can almost guarantee King students chanted "you are gay". It is a constant pattern. It goes both ways, every game. The article makes DLS seem like a villain when in reality, it is just another high school. The problem is at a level much higher than one school and I believe the article does a poor job of illustrating that."
I agree with many points here. This happens at tons of high schools and colleges around the country. Tbh it makes me a bit uncomfortable hearing similar chants used at Michigan hockey games and other sporting events. However, this is not race driven and shouldn't be skewed that way.
The article was written by Terry Foster; you're surprised it's a poorly written article with a slanted point of view?
The irony is that some of them will wind up being knocked up before 21 or flunking out of college. Just because one has a silver spoon handed to them doesn't necessarily mean they are going to eat from it. I take this personally because I have three cousins that graduated from King last summer, and they are articultate, upstanding young men with very bright futures ahead of them.
Dennis Norfleet is something special. I would not be surprised if he ends up becoming the crown jewel of the amazing class of 2012. He'll eventually being simply called "Fleet" and will inherit Denard's mantle as Michigan's Mr. Excitement.
Heres to hoping that in 3-4 years we can roll out "The Fleet" of Shane Morris, Dennis Norfleet, Ty Isaac, and Laquon Treadwell.
I hope Shane Morris does something about this. Rip his school own school's fans about it, I would be 10X more excited for him if he did that.
Morris has been tweeting about all night. Basically said that he wasn't part of the chanting and he thought both schools were going at it. Said he thought it was pretty stupid to make a big deal about all this.. I agree.
How is this any different than cracking similar jokes at MSU or Ohio?