I'm gonna miss Denard more than anyone else to ever wear the winged helmet. Cot damn I hope he gets to play.
this may be of some local interest
I'm gonna miss Denard more than anyone else to ever wear the winged helmet. Cot damn I hope he gets to play.
Let's remember it's for all the seniors, not just Denard. Kenny Demens, Roy Roundtree, Elliott Mealer, Ricky Barnum...all these boys deserve recognition
Absolutely. The team, the team, the team. But Denard was the brightest spot in some very dark days.
When Denard and Brady embrace, it is going to be another one of those moments when someone is peeling onions.
They are all great kids who gave a lot to Michigan, but Denard being a quiet, humble gentleman just makes him special.
I don't know if anyone noticed, but at the ovetime coin flip, Denard gave all of the captains on Northwestern a man hug. That's just Denard being Denard.
Lots of talk out there about Denard being done for the season.
Kind of poetic that Denard had to carry the team for the last 2.67 years, and now the team may have to carry him the last .33. Obviously, I hope that doesn't happen.
I think that he will play if reasonably healthy, due in part to the way that he played last year against Ohio State. That was arguably the best game of his career, and I just don't see us beating OSU in the shoe with Devin playing. He has been impressive, but the shoe is going to be a pressure-cooker, and Denard's experience will be incredibly valauble. If Denard is heatlhy, or almost healthy, or not-healthly-but-can't-get-any-worse, I think he will at least split time on Saturday.
If he can be ready, I want Denard under/behind center for The Game.
I'm not a doctor, and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but if playing Denard puts his elbow at undue risk, then Hoke should/will do the right thing and protect Denard's career.
I have no medical insight, but when something's "day-to-day' for two weeks, be it an injury or a project completion, then it's not at all unlikely that it will be "day-to-day" for four weeks. :(
If he really was done for the season, wouldn't they opt for surgery ASAP in hopes that he might recover in time for the bowl and/or the combine?
That would be the best option for Denard if they really thought he had no chance of playing again. Which is why I think we will see him play at least one more.
What makes you think that there is a question of surgery in Denard's case, that is just being delayed at this point? Just as a general matter, not every football injury gets repaired via surgery. I'm very slightly acquainted with ulnar nerve injuries, and I'm honestly not aware of a whole lot of surgical options in most cases. There are some, to be sure. But I haven't heard anything about surgery in Denard's case...
Edit. - Weeeeelll; I see my question got answered just below. lol. Still, I'm not aware of such a diagnosis (ulnar nerve displacement) in Denard's case and it seems others aren't either. I'm pretty sure that a minority of entrapments (as opposed to displacements) merit surgery. But your point is well-taken. So now the interwebz have more stuff to speculate about...
Upvoting because your comment didn't make me want to downvote you (for once).
No worries. It was mentioned on a front page post about an email Brian received from a baseball player with the same injury. He had surgery and was 100% after recovery. Not saying that Denard's injury is exactly the same though. You could be right that they are hoping it recovers on its own.
Just personally, my view on this thing would be a lot different, and would have been much more concerned much earlier, but for having been there at the Illinois game to see with my own eyes what the tv cameras probably weren't showing much of.
Denard crouching in pain/discomfort; holding his hand like it was going to fall off; grimacing; walking away from the field in a sort of daze and looking very bad...
...and then coming back a couple of series later and throwing a td pass.
It gave me the impression that it was an intermittent thing; at least to that extent. No basis, obviously, for anybody to make a diagnosis. Other than being a confirmed booboo.
you all would agree, would you not, that it is now Denard v. Devin - Game On for who gives Michigan the best chance to win, correct? My statement above hoping for Denard to play, if healthy, was to mean that there is at least a question at this point, right? I mean, I love me some Denard, and like I said above, at this point I think he is the move assuming he can play, but Gardner what not just, like, acceptable on Saturday, he was flat out good, kind of brilliant, take away one throw. We have to face it at this point that there is rightly a controversy, right. Right! RIGHT? I think Gardner has shown enough that he should be considered even with a healthy Denard if, ya know, Sound Bendish things start to occur.
I don't know man. It's not like Gardner lit up the NW defense for 45 points.
If and when Denard is healthy enough to play, the coaches will make that call. From what I have seen from Hoke, there is no controversy in his mind, which is all that really matters right? Denard is the starter and has earned that right IMO. Is it great having a solid backup who can step in if need be? Absolutely. But I still think Denard gives us our best chance in these last 2/3/4(?) games.
too. But he Gardner did put up 38, I guess it is not 45, but..... In any case, I think if Denard is healthy he should play, but I think it is only rational and deserving that Hoke has his finger near the Devin trigger at all times. He made some throws on Saturday that Denard cannot make, and I love everything that Denard has meant to this program, but if not a controversy there is at least a discussion and I think it is one that the coaches may want to have if need be.
We have no QB controversy. We have Devin Gardner starting right now, and I am glad of it, because for all I know, Denard Robinson is injured, or has been injured for a couple of weeks and has been unable to practice. He can't be sharp. And Russell Bellomy is officially injured. And there's The President, Jack Kennedy.
Michigan's problem is not two or three guys battling for the starting QB job. We'd be lucky if we got to that point. Our problem is making sure that we have at least one good body ready to run the offense.
It's been a matter of not being able to grip the ball tight enough to throw accurately, any chance they let him run kickoffs or play running back? It's his last two games, and he's healthy. Plus, he's 305 yards away from the NCAA qb rushing record
i can't imagine the amount of cheering and applause that will happen when his name is called on senior day. it will be a very emotional day, no doubt.
Wow, this is fantastic. Thank you for posting. And thank you Denard. I will never be more sad to see a player go.
We've got a lot of things going on, family/holiday things like everyone does, stuff we probably shouldn't miss. But my wife has been adamant at every turn - no matter what someone plans or schedules that day, we will not miss Denard's last game in the Big House.
Man, what a fantastic video. It's such a flood of emotions watching that, especially since my 2 best friends and I finally got season tickets Denard's freshman year. I'm so thankful to have spent all those games with my buddies and that Denard was there the whole time.
What a tremendous young man Denard is. So so much charachter, class, heart - the list goes on and on.
Ironically enough my company sells a medical device that surgeons use to repair ulnar nerve injuries and one of our chief medical advisors is here in the office right now for a technology conference. He is a very prominent elbow surgeon from NYC so I asked him what he thought of Denard's injury and the probability he would play on Saturday.
He said that if Denard truly has an ulnar nerve displacement it is highly unlikely he would get better and return to anything close to normal without surgery. He then offered the standard medical disclaimer that without examination and proper diagnosis he couldnt say for sure what will happen.
But for what it's worth he sure didnt make me very optimistic about us seeing Denard on the field again.
This is the first I've heard that Denard might have a displacement, so I'm not sure how useful your question was.
I will be absolutely devastated if he can't play against Iowa this weekend. Not only is this his last game in the Big House, but these last two games are must wins and there is no one that I would rather have at the helm. Moreover, I know we haven't forgotten Nard's performance against Ohio last year...
After all that he's done for us throughout one of the most timultuous stretches of our program's history, I feel that he is surprisingly underappreciated. I sometimes think that people forget how much of a class act this guy is. Never gets down on himself or his team, takes shot after shot and plays through pain, and has grown ten fold as a team leader since his sophomore season.
Granted, I am excited about Michigan's future as this and last year's recruiting classes get on campus and come to fruition. I'm sure that Devin will be fantastic leading the team next year and possibly the year after. However (and as Devin said), this is Denard's team and he has earned that right. As one of the most prolific offensive players in our storied program's history, Denard will be sorely missed...whether or not we think so right now.
Get well, Nard.
K-STATE?!? They could have had Collin Klein AND Denard?!? Wow
Also think of Oregon and the potential they'd have this season (and into the future) if Manziel had stuck with his commitment to the Ducks - getting to choose between Mariota (who's quitely having an absolutely incredible season) and Johnny Football is a pretty enviable situation.
As much as I want to see him play against Iowa and Ohio, he needs the bowl game (& practices) and following Senior bowls (and practices) to help him show his skills at other positions and raise his draft stock. Let him heal up and be healthy for that if that what it comes down to. For all we know he is practicing at other positions and will play those positions against Ohio.
Denard plays in the senior bowl, but decides that it is best to play another position that would boost his draft status. WR/KR/PR , and he takes 2 or 3 returns to the house........I'd be happy for him, but man it would be tough to watch without thinking "what if?"
It has been a roller coaster ride watching you the past three years. I really hope you come out of the tunnel with your helmet on and your chin strap done up ready to go Saturday. It would be a shame not to see you play again in the Big House one more time. Go BLue!
You guys are so sentimental awwwwwww it's sweet, but if you've watched our football season this year it's clear we would lose to Ohio and probably whatever bowl game were invited to if Denard is our qb. I believe Devin gives us the best chance to win, plus he would be getting valuable experience for next season. Ok now take sentiment out of the equation and let's do what's best for the team. I mean its all about the team right?
That this was Denards team? I know DG has looked really good, but man after everything that this young man has done for MICH, if he's healthy you play him.
That was such an unsatisfying neg.
I wish I could neg the shit out of you.
S/he does not deserve to e-exist.
Bo's ghost is urinating in your gas tank at this very moment, and he's got a very full bladder. Might be an hour or more before he's done.
I guess this post is really about what Denard has done for his team over the past four years. How unselfish he's been. How he stayed, even with the uncertainty of a new coach and system. How he (as one poster said) carried the team in many games. I love Devin Gardner, and want him to realize his dream of playing quarterback for the University of Michigan, especially after what he's sacrificed for the team. This post was meant to thank Denard for the past four years of incredibly hard work, dedication, and just UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE AWESOMENESS. As for the future, I'll just quote Doris Day: Que Sera, Sera. What will be, will be.
Be sure to board your plane on time for your trip to............beautiful La Paz, Bolivia!
So Gardner beats a shitty Minnesota team and pulls out a miracle against Northwestern and you're ready to throw Denard onto the scrap heap?
You're a goddamn genius. Do you host any seminars I could attend?
Denard joins Gerald Robinson as former MICH footbaw players who became POTUS
Is that why he hasn't been good in games? Spending too much time campaigning when he should be practicing?
Gerald Ford, I'm sorry its Monday and I'm way e-slow today.
I'll miss not only Denard but all the other seniors too. Smith, Roundtree, Kovacs, Omameh, Roh, just to name a few. Those Gritty McGritensteins were shepards for the program over the course of their time here. I'm looking forward to saying my goodbyes in person on Saturday.
...that's a new one. New word or autocorrect going crazy?
I was going to say, really old. Like, Old Testament old.
I have been carrying around a big ache at the thought that he isn't going to get Pat White's record.
The POTUS speculation is, of course, apt, but I don't think that Mr. Ford had a patch on Denard, people-skills-wise.
Denard certainly tops my list.
All the Seniors should be recognized, of course, on Saturday. They've been through so much and stayed together as a team and that speaks volumes about who they are.
Denard Robinson has been the face of this team through thick and thin over the past few years, and it is not only the on-field talent, but also the character and the leadership that will be missed. As tribute to that character, here is his speech at the BIg Ten Kickoff Luncheon in July:
I think Denard will get at least a few snaps against Iowa even if he isn't really healthy. I expect Hoke will let Denard take the field for the first series and hand the ball off one or two times, then leave the field to his richly deserved ovation.
If he can't really play, then this is the best option. Except I'd reverse it -- hopefully Devin gets us the game in hand by the 4th quarter, and then we can trot Denard out for his goodbye on a 4th-quarter drive.
That would be an incredibly emotional finish.
From the minute he fumbled that snap and ran for a TD against Western to today... wow. I'm going to miss Denard.
that was taking place during the coaching change and whether Denard was going to stick it out or not. The easy decision, for a lot of reasons, would have been to bolt to another spread type team. Denard sticking to his committment to Michigan reduced what I believe would have been a mass exodus from the program and a much tougher road back.
The kid deserves to be on the field at the Big House one more time, in whatever capacity his health allows him to be.
College athletes are people too. They not only play for their schools but attend class at them (surprising I know) and build relationships with people at them. For some, the decision to leave may be more difficult than sticking it out. I don't know why anybody assumed he was going to bolt during the transition knowing the kind of person he is.
Why would my co-worker come in here and poke my eyes until they tear up? WTF?
I'm in tears over here you guys are sweethearts you really are.
C'mon, you can do it—tell us we have sand in our vaginas. We know you want to, just make it happen.
Hey, why not strike up a Denard vs. Devin debate in this thread too? You know you want to . . . (Hint, don't do it)
Gonna miss that kid like none other. Devin's performance over the last couple weeks have taken the edge off the dread for next year without Denard, but it is still going to suck in many ways. I have become addicted to looking for the home run every time Denard touches the ball. I sincerely hope he can leave on the field, not on the bench. One of Michigan's all time greatest players to ever wear the winged helmet.
still waiting to see if denard is healthy or not before i buy tickets for my wife and i.
i'm sure i'm not the only one, but denard's last home game is too good to miss.
get healthy man.
I got two section 18 row 2 tickets I want to sell, seat 15 and 16...I'm looking to get 3 tickets together so i can take my kids to their first game! :-D
set up a way for the whole stadium to sing "I love you Denard" at some point in the game.
put the words on the big screen, and have Lloyd Brady lead us
needs to happen. I'm emailing Dave Brandon now.
I don't think Denard himself would want that. It's not all about him. It's a team game. Cheer your hearts out when he's introduced, but don't forget to do the same for all the seniors, too.
If the student section is not packed to the top rows for the Senior Day pre-game, to thank Denard, Treezy, Jordan Kovacs and all the rest...
... well, I don't know what. I haven't thought of an appropriate remedy/sanction.
Please, students. And everyone else. Get there in time for the biggest cheer of the year. This should really go out on every Michigan blog, in every local newspaper, on every radio program. It is Senior Day. Your one last chance to say thank you to these kids and their parents. Get there.
Yes. You all (and we) may never see a player like Denard again in our lifetime. Recognize it now and pay hommage at the Mecca (Big House) on the day of sabbath (Saturday).
If the Michigan State game was the last glimpse we'll ever get of Denard at Michigan Stadium, at least he'll have gone out on a high note.
He'll go down as all-time great who earned everything. I hope, if nothing else, Denard gets a token QB iso or something against Iowa just to hear the ovation from 111,000. Gonna be a little dusty ...
He said: "You just became a legend." As if that didn't happen on the first snap he ever took against WMU! Such determination. Reading "3 and Out" you can see how much pride he takes in his work and his team. Even when he didn't do well, it was always about the team! True Michigan Man. Those who stay will be champions!
It reminded me that it's not all about W's and L's (though I like the W's much better!), but also how exciting it has been to watch Denard play for the Maize and Blue. Hope we get to see him play at least one more time.
Solid first post. And welcome to the board!
Denard was the shining light in what turned around a dark period of Michigan football. Granted, he didn’t do anything by himself, but he was a main figure in righting many wrongs in our history that as a fan I was not used to seeing. He broke a 2 year streak of losing records. He broke a 3 year streak of losing conference records. He broke a 2 year bowless streak and a streak that didn’t win a bowl game in 3 years. He broke a 4 year losing streak to MSU and a 7 year losing streak to Ohio State. But, the biggest thing is he gave us something to brag about and be proud of during a time when we didn’t have a lot we could hang our hat on. He did all of this under the tremendous pressure we put on this team and his position. But, he never fired back at negative questions from reporters or critiques of his throwing ability and he always remained positive and supportive of his teammates. He never got a big head during his success and was always grateful for his opportunities. He is one of the most positive and humble guys I can remember from stars of big time athletics. He will definitely be missed and will go down as an all-time fan favorite in the years to come.
He will take his place in the Pantheon of Heros who have graced the fields of Michigan football. From Willie Heston to Bennie Oosterbaan, Tom Harmon to Bob Chappuis, AC to Howard, and Woodson to Hart...Michigan fans of almost every generation fans have seen greatness on the field.
We of contemporary times were blessed to have seen yet another example of greatness clad in the Maize Wings and Blue Helmet.
Blessed with uncommon speed and in possession of running abiity unseen in this land since Barry Sanders retired, Denard played in one of the most tumultuous times in Michigan football history. NCAA violations, Freep Jihad, Josh Groban singalongs,losing seasons,a fractured fanbase, and Spartan dominace on the gridiron..it was all so very surreal. The one program that seemingly had been able to avoid the Roman-style collapse so many elite programs have undergone, imploded with a rapidity so shocking that some still are not sure if it actually happened.
Denard's time will be missing the championships that a Leach and Griese brought and the awards of transcendant greatness that Howard and Woodson were given. But Denard did something that may, in retrospect, come to be viewed as great anything achieved by his fellow Michigan greats--redemption. He slayed the ancient villians, in the process breathing new life into a calcified program so used to winning that it stopped working for victory. He gave Michigan a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. Denard got this program's heart pumping again. It is this, not his spectacular runs or amazing comebacks, that we must give thanks for having had this young man on our side. His legacy will not be one of championships or Heismans won, but of spirit renewed.
Denard will shortly be gone from our view, but he will never be absent in our hearts. Godspeed, Shoelace. It's been quite the ride.
I would like to say thank you to Denard, Kovacs, odds are Lewan, Roh, Tree, Gallon, Big Will, Floyd, Vinny Smith, Demens, Mealer, Omameh, and all of the seniors that I am sure I missed. Thank you for staying. Enjoy your last time playing in the Big House.
I saw Denard today. Someone asked how his arm was, and he said "it's doing good," but when that person stuck out his hand, Denard couldn't shake it without doing a wincing, dead fish thing. Hopefully he's able to take the field again, but my optimism took a serious hit today.
he's a great cfb player, so exciting to watch and you can just tell he gives his all every play and leaves nothing on the field. And off the field, he does everything right.
I wonder what his major is?
Best Vid Ever! Going to miss Denard a great deal.
If Denard can't start the game, I damn well hope he can finish it.
Have Devin put the game out of reach at 28-7, and then let Denard in for a final drive or two. Next, hope for an 88 yard Denard run to send the stadium into an uproar.
Shoelaces flapping in the wind, one last time.
What I'll miss is the pics you guys post of Denard at other sporting events cheering the other sports on. That smile is infectious.
(I will not miss him on the field however, well only against ND).
Whether or not Denard plays the last two games, he has been an amazing player to get to watch. His upbeat demeanor, never-ending smile and leadership has been a blast to experience as a fan. I will miss him a ton, and he might just go down as my favorite in a long list of pretty badass QB's. He and Devin are also probably the last two guys we will see with a winged helmet at QB that can really turn and burn with their legs. I actually prefer the pro-style smashmouth approach, but this veer into the spread has been a rollercoaster ride. Thanks for all the memories, and Go Blue!!! We love you Denard!!!