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Denard/ Senior Bowl 1/22 - Video - Updated

From Kyle Meinke

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2013/01/video_of_denard_robinson_at_re.html

He caught punts and did other drills, but is not yet cleared for contact. (thus the yellow Jersey)

And, a mid-day unfortunate update from the Det News:

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130122/SPORTS0201/301220408/1131/rss17?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=U-M+Sports

Apparently Denard has the Dropsies (who wrote that headline? Are they 5 years old?). Apparently that means he had 2 drops in a row. And while Menkie reports that he went 11-for-11 on catching punts before practice, the news says he only caught 2 of 4 after.

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

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January 22nd, 2013 at 11:40 AM | Hands (Score:5 Normal)
Lucky Socks
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His hands look natural.  

Twin Cities

January 22nd, 2013 at 11:45 AM | Reminds me of the Stauskus (Score:3 Normal)
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Reminds me of the Stauskus Christmas video.

5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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January 22nd, 2013 at 11:47 AM | Looks pretty good... (Score:2 Normal)
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Makes me wonder why we didn't use him in the passing (receiving) game during the bowl. He's a threat when he's on the field.

Best of luck to him. He'll find his way in the NFL...I'm sure multiple teams have a plan in place and an idea in mind.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:06 PM | He never... (Score:3 Normal)
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He never looked good running routes when Michigan used him as a receiver.  I'm sure he can get better, but he'll need a lot of practice...FWIW, I think he's a running back. 

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:28 PM | He looks a little stiff at (Score:3 Normal)
M-Dog
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He looks a little stiff at receiver.  It's hard to transition on short notice.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 11:47 AM | It's 2013. Non-HD cameras (Score:5 Normal)
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It's 2013. Non-HD cameras still exist?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 7:50 PM | non-hd... (Score:1)
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still exists every where. i have couple of customers at work that (i work for an A/V company) and they still have tube tvs and the very early 480SD flat panels... and on top of that they use s-video...

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January 22nd, 2013 at 11:55 AM | If he doesn't make it in the NFL (Score:-1 Flamebait)
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:23 PM | No (Score:5 Normal)
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Blame Al. Its always his fault.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 3:17 PM | Blame Al Rod. Problem (Score:3 Normal)
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Blame Al Rod.

Problem solves.

January 22nd, 2013 at 11:57 AM | Frustrating to see (Score:0 Normal)
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:05 PM | Devin wasn't ready in 2011 (Score:4 Normal)
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Devin wasn't ready in 2011 and are you really going to make your All-American QB switch to WR for his senior year?  Especially after leading the team to an 11 win season (7th in school history) and a BCS bowl win the year before?

 

We all see it now but imagine the freakout this board would have had if the coaches had done that.  The mgofreakout would have been even worse if the coaches moved him when they came in in 2011.  If Tate hadn't been such a headcase and was still on the team the past two years maybe Denard could have gotten more playing time at WR/RB.

January 22nd, 2013 at 11:59 AM | The article said he only (Score:2 Normal)
El Tigre
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The article said he only caught 3 of 8 punts.  He will have to improve this if he wants to get drafted in the 2nd round.  Denard has tremendous talent and upside but NFL coaches don't want to waste time teaching fundamentals. 

 

That being said, I can't wait to see him play in the Senior Bowl.

January 22nd, 2013 at 12:04 PM | Again according to the twitters (Score:5 Normal)
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Denard caught all the punts kicked to him today, and looked more natural at it.

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

January 22nd, 2013 at 12:07 PM | Good (Score:2 Normal)
El Tigre
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The kid has talent and practice makes perfect.  I only brought up the 3/8 thing because if he can return kicks and play as a WR/RB hybrid it will only improve his chances of being taken early in the draft.

January 22nd, 2013 at 12:13 PM | Agreed (Score:2)
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I think that catching punts and kicks will really boost his draft stock. I'm not saying he's Devin Hester, because Hester was a great returner in college, but when my Bears drafted Hester they had no idea where to play him besides at returner. If Denard shows that he can field punts and kicks, all he needs is 1 team saying "He'll be good at that, and anything else is a bonus" just like the Bears did with Hester.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:28 PM | Which twitter feed has the (Score:2)
ken725
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Which twitter feed has the updates you mentioned?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:00 PM | Also Kyle (Score:3 Normal)
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@Kmeinke "Denard Robinson caught all 11 punts during early session. Marked improvement from yesterday"

About 2 hours ago, writing this at 1pm eastern

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:00 PM | His speed and natural ability (Score:1)
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His speed and natural ability to run can make him a very dangerous reciever either as a deep threat like deshawn jackson or torrey smith or in the slot like Victor cruz or wes welker

January 22nd, 2013 at 12:11 PM | how come the camera guy (Score:5 Normal)
ish
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how come the camera guy couldn't get farther away?

January 22nd, 2013 at 12:20 PM | PANIC MODE (Score:2)
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I am worried. Should I be worried?

Every time he turns his back to the camera, I don't see the flow.

January 22nd, 2013 at 8:16 PM | I saw that too!  But if it (Score:2)
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I saw that too!  But if it isn't a thread topic, it can't be real -right?

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January 22nd, 2013 at 11:01 PM | Trim?   TIed up?   (Score:2)
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Trim?

 

TIed up?

 

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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:23 PM | Words from Senior Bowl (Score:2 Interesting)
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is Denard really struggled at WR.  It is forgiven considering that he have never played WR in his life.  His route running leaves a lot to be desired and fought the ball when he's about to catch it.  The main things the scouts want to see from him is day to day improvement from yesterday to last day of practice which is far more important to see if he can learn new position quickly and take in coaching as well.

January 22nd, 2013 at 12:28 PM | I agree (Score:2)
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I think the day-to-day improvement is going to be the biggest thing for Denard. In addition to showing that he has the basic skills (catching, mostly) Denard is going to have to learn (improve) at 1 of 2 things: Route Running and/or Blocking.

If he can't really run routes well he can't be a WR at all. If he can't block, he won't be a RB. Ideally, he can do both, as WRs have to block too. We'll see. Like Tebow, it only takes 1 team to love you for you to get drafted really high.

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

January 22nd, 2013 at 4:41 PM | Another tidbits (Score:1)
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they are very impressed with his improvement in route running.  He consistently showed that he can separate from DBs and burned one of the CB with a killer double moves.  However, his hands still needs a lot of work because he is not a natural WR and doesn't feel comfortable catching it.  However, they think that Denard will become a better pro than Armanti Edwards who is in a similar mold as Denard, but Armanti has really struggled with the QB to WR transition.  Denard showed improvement which is good news for Denard.

Ultimately, I think RB will be his position because of his ability to find holes and cut back lanes.  He knows how to run between the tackles and doesn't always bounce it outside.

January 23rd, 2013 at 12:11 AM | Please don't mention Armanti (Score:2 Normal)
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Please don't mention Armanti again. I get chest pains every time I remember that game.

January 22nd, 2013 at 1:00 PM | Denard (Score:3 Normal)
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My fear is that Denard ends up failing to make it in the NFL because he has no true position. Sure, he is fast as hell, but there are a good number of guys coming out who have elite speed. What made Denard unique is that he was a qb with that speed. If he aid going to play rb or WR, sure, he will be one of the faster guys at the position bit his speed is not so unique as to make up for other deficiencies.



Ultimately, keeping Denard at qb - while what he wanted and while probably necessary bc of our roster - may have hurt him long term because it prevented him from developing at a position that he would play at the Mex level. By the end pf his junior year it was obvious that Denard could not be a qb in the NFL. Not remotely meant as an insult - jus my observation of one of my all time favorites.

January 22nd, 2013 at 1:23 PM | I somewhat agree (Score:1)
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Showcasing his "other position" talents more may have improved his stock. But I think at the end of the day a GM is gonna say "this kid is just to fast not to give him the ball"

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

January 22nd, 2013 at 3:07 PM | Maybe (Score:2)
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But there are a ton of fast kids out there. Many have close to Denard's speed but actually have played the position that they will end up at. If being fast were enough, then every sprinter would get drafted. The problem with Denard is that he has no experience as anything other than qb. So, he is effectively a sprinter trying out for the NFL. obviously, this is an overstatement, but the point still holds.

January 22nd, 2013 at 6:48 PM | He has experience as a (Score:2)
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He has experience as a running QB, and thus has some experience as a RB.  I'm not really sure why he's being looked at so much as a WR anyway rather than a RB.  He has pretty much the exact same measurements as Chris Johnson, and is immeasurably more committed to the team.  Even if he could be 70 percent of Chris Johnson, with the potential for trick plays he brings as a former QB (a la Randle El), and the fantastic attitude, I have no doubt he would be successful.  Even if he does go the WR route, though, he's being rated by the "experts" as a top 5 receiver on potential alone, so a poor showing in this game doesn't really affect him I would think.  I would hate for him to go to the Lions for his sake, but I would love for him to come in and fill the hole left by Best when they finally give up on him coming back.

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January 22nd, 2013 at 1:14 PM | The next level (Score:2)
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Wherever he plays, Denard will be a work in progress. But I think the best solution would be to develop him as quickly as possible as a kick returner while he matures into a WR. He could be the new Devin Hester, now that the present one seems relatively uninterested in going on.

January 22nd, 2013 at 1:26 PM | With Chip Kelly coming to NFL... (Score:3 Normal)
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I'm putting my money on Denard being an Eagle next year...great fit for Kelly's offense.

January 22nd, 2013 at 2:14 PM | Almost looked like he was (Score:2)
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Almost looked like he was running too fast on the routes...came out of his break before the ball was close to here.

 

Obviously, it's his responsibility to come out of his breaks at the right time, but looks like getting his timing right with a QB will require the QB to mentally measure time with decimals.

M '11

January 22nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM | Jets reportedly his most (Score:3 Normal)
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Jets reportedly his most interested suitor...I hope he likes the pine.

January 22nd, 2013 at 2:32 PM | That would suck (Score:5 Normal)
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I would hate if Denard went to the tire fire that is the Jets

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January 22nd, 2013 at 2:37 PM | I bet Chip Kelly, (Score:2 Normal)
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Would love to get his hands on Denard.  He can play QB, running back or slot receiver in his offense.

January 22nd, 2013 at 3:19 PM | Pats? (Score:1)
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Denard on the Pats would be cool too, IMO. If they could make Welker into a beast and find a spot for "Woodshed", they can probably find a way to get Denard involved.

January 22nd, 2013 at 3:27 PM | Especially since they are down a RB after Sunday (Score:1)
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When Riddley was killed on the field.

January 22nd, 2013 at 5:25 PM | Disclaimer: I know nothing (Score:3 Normal)
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Disclaimer: I know nothing about football, really.

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Still reading?

Okay, then. It just seems hard to imagine that Denard coudn't develop into a serviceable slot receiver, especially when you throw in jet sweeps and reverses and so forth. I mean, his cuts are absurd, so why couldn't he learn to run shallow read routes where he runs down the field five yards and cuts hard right or left and catches a 10-yard pass (after a three- or five-step drop by the QB)?

CUMONG, DENARD!!!

January 22nd, 2013 at 5:39 PM | Keep in mind (Score:2)
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Most receivers trying out for the NFL have played receiver for at least 3 years (some up to probably 10). Denard's done it for about 3 months, and still isn't 100% healthy, seeing as he's still in a no-contact jersey.

People agree with you that he'll develop into an NFL receiver of some kind, but to expect him to perform as well as people who have been playing receiver for a long time right off the bat would be setting the bar a little high

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January 22nd, 2013 at 5:43 PM | Right, you mentioned what I (Score:3 Normal)
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Right, you mentioned what I neglected to emphasize--that it could happen over time or that he could develop into a good receiver. I suppose that will be the question teams have--should we use an early-round pick to use him immediately in some way or a late-round pick to develop him into something.

January 23rd, 2013 at 1:26 PM | Yep, we're agreeing (Score:2)
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(on the internet. Crazyness)

But I think that the return game is a way for Denard to be both. Draft him early to use him as a returner now, and hope that he develops into a good WR/RB later.

"Over? Did you say, over? Nothing is over until we decide it is!"

January 22nd, 2013 at 8:09 PM | Attitude (Score:3 Normal)
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I know if I was an NFL scout another thing I'd be looking at is the attitude and "coachability" of the players on my draft board.  Denard is an exceptional athlete, and even in the NFL his combination of speed, acceleration, and ability to read blocks will be above average. If he can add solid catching, route running, and blocking to that while getting coached up on the details of the rest he's going to be an offensive coordinator's dream. 

But that isn't what makes him unusual.; it's his attitude and his obvious willingness to learn. He's not the kind of guy that will take this opportunity for granted and he'll be a great player and teammate regardless of his position.  Maybe the risks will hold him out of the 2nd round but I can't see him going any later than mid-third with his personality and talents.  Denard Robinson was a great Wolverine, is a great Michigan man, and do everything in his power to be a great [incert draft team here].

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