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Denard Robinson: Senior Bowl

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January 21st, 2013 at 11:59 AM
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Denard Robinson: Senior Bowl

Senor Bowl just finished the prospect measurements.  Denard Robinson came in at 5104/196.  Way shorter than his listed height which isn't surprising considering that he's not really a true 6'.  His future is definitely at RB/WR, but more at RB because of his ability to run the ball and find holes/cutback lanes.

EDIT: When height shows up in a 4 digit numbers, it means feet, inches then an 8th of inch so Denard is 5'10" 4/8.  That is a common abbreviation for NFL scouts.  They speak prospect's height by 4 digit numbers.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:05 PM
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5104 - 5'10 4/10"?

5104 - 5'10 4/10"?

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:14 PM
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It must be metric - 5104 cm.

It must be metric - 5104 cm. But who knows what that comes out to in American.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:20 PM
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The real question is how many

The real question is how many stone is that?

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:20 PM
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I need to know his height in cubits

otherwise I have no frame of reference.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:22 PM
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Um, no. Even 5104 mm would

Um, no. Even 5104 mm would put him at ~17 ft tall. Taco pants isn't even that tall.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:28 PM
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Well I said cm so that

Well I said cm so that probably changes it.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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/S?

/S?

It does change it, it would make him nearly 170 feet tall. In more conventional terms, 1.5x the size of the Megazord. This may help explain why the metric system never held on over here.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:47 PM
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I thought he was only that tall

When combined with Devin and Tate.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:49 PM
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Not sure if serious...

 photo notsureifserious.jpg

If you are serious about cm that would make him 167 ft tall and Denard is Taco Pants on Dilithium

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:00 PM
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I must not have been clear.

I must not have been clear. Yes, I'm totally serious that I think Denard is 170 feet tall.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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But then why wouldn't the

But then why wouldn't the coaches have him line up under center each play and then just fall forward?  Two of those = easy touchdown.

Borges fail.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:19 PM
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The NCAA

They have a serious stick up their collective butts about crushing players into bloody gore pools.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:40 PM
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His mother

Must have some child bearing hips.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:42 PM
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WOOOSH

WOOOSH

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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No it's

5'10" 4/8.  NFL scout use the 4 digit numbers to signify the 8th of an inch in addition to feet and inches.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:42 PM
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Just to be clear on this

Just to be clear on this subject, you're saying he's five feet ten and a half inches tall? Is that with or without shoes?

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:10 PM
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Yes

he's 5'10" and half inches tall.  That is without shoes. They never measure prospects with shoes.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:20 PM
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Of course not

That's what the Nike and UA high school combines are for. Sensible heels.

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January 21st, 2013 at 3:09 PM
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Risk management studies

recommend not playing in heels without tying your shoelaces.

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January 21st, 2013 at 3:12 PM
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Risk management studies

also recommend patience in save button effect.  Failing to do so = double post.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:05 PM
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And also heavier than I

And also heavier than I expected

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:06 PM
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You could tell Denard was not

You could tell Denard was not 6'. Don't get me wrong. Denard is an amazing athlete and it was a privelage to watch play in person for four years. So if Vincent Smith is listed as 5'6" I wonder how tall he really is?

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:26 PM
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Smith

Probably still 5"6.  There's much less incentive to embelish the height of a diminuative RB.  Would teams have been more worried about him if he was listed at 5"8?  Probably not.  Whereas a QB under 6 foot is a batted ball machine.  

Also, I've stood next to him and he wasn't super duper tiny.  5"6 seems about right.  

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:06 PM
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Slot

He won't play RB if anything he seems best suited as a return man/slot receiver..I don't think he can take the punishment as aRB

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:16 PM
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I think he could be a change

I think he could be a change of pace running back, similar to how the 49ers use lamichael james to complement frank gore. He doesn't need to be a featuer back but I think he could hold up for 5-10 carries a game. Just my opinion but I think that the slot compromises some of his unique running abilities, as he certainly has a knack for running the ball.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:36 PM
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I could see Denard being used

I could see Denard being used as a Jacquizz Rodgers type. Getting occasional carries and catching passes out of the backfield, but not an every down back. . They're the same weight but Denard has 4 inches on him and possibly a step or 2 faster.

If he gets drafted by a team like San Fran, Washington, Philly, or even Seattle he could be an extremely dangerous option in the backfield with the threat of him being able to run, pass, or catch.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:08 PM
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Also, I am sure that with him

Also, I am sure that with him slated to play RB/Slot, his work out regimen would change to add some needed bulk. Clinton Portis is listed as 5'11 205, Emmitt Smith 5' 9 216, Barry Sanders 5' 8 203 for comparison sake. Denard looks pretty thin at 196 so I would think he could add some bulk without much sacrifice to speed.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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LaMichael James...Jacquizz

LaMichael James...Jacquizz Rodgers-type...well that settles it - Chip Kelly's going to draft him!

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:26 PM
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Rodgers was Oregon State. But

Rodgers was Oregon State. But close enough

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January 28th, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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D'oh!

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:26 PM
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For him to get reps as a 3rd

For him to get reps as a 3rd down back he is going to have to show that he can pick up the blitz.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:24 PM
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Why do people keep saying he

Why do people keep saying he can't take punishment? The dude had as many carries as a "feature back" in 2010, and somewhat fewer but still a lot of carries in 11 and 12. All while running the offense and throwing an additional ~20 times a game.



Denard played just as hard as a feature back - even the toughest RBs usually take a breather after every couple of plays. Denard didn't. And through all that, his worst injury only kept him out of a couple games. Sure he had to sit for a few drives and halves in that period, but what RB doesn't? And besides that many of his injuries were ones that made it hard for him to be a QB but he probably could have kept running if necessary (being the star QB, we probably were more cautious than we'd be with an RB with a minor boo boo.)



Denard is tough. Some of his best runs cone from working in traffic up the middle. He could be a feature back if allowed and if he learns to block. WR is a waste - Denard begs to be fed behind the LOS so he can make LBs and crashing safeties look stupid.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:09 PM
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An inch and a half is a

An inch and a half is a pretty discernable exaggeration (with regards to height, obvs).  Dafuq is the purpose of lying about athlete's heights and weights again?

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:15 PM
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Blatant disregard for the

Blatant disregard for the truth. I'm beside myself right now.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:16 PM
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Intimidate opponents

Every team does it. Not surprising at all

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January 21st, 2013 at 3:16 PM
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So we can get in the minds of

So we can get in the minds of opponents before they actually hit the field.

I, myself, am 6'5' 295lbs.  Better watch yourself.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:17 PM
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Simplified, that's 26 and

Simplified, that's 26 and 8/196. I hope that helps.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:20 PM
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Just a fancy way to say 26

Just a fancy way to say 26 and 2/49.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:18 PM
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5104/196=26. So his number at M should have been #26

We gave him wrong number jersey all the way.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:23 PM
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Ha, they measure by 8ths

So Denard is 5'10 and 4/8, or more simply 5'10.5

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:24 PM
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Do they run a 40 at the

Do they run a 40 at the senior bowl?

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:28 PM
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No

what's important for the Senior Bowl is how players prepare for practices and how well they perform in practices which is far more important than games.  NFL scouts/personnel leave after the last day of practice.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:51 PM
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Denard's height

I don't know what the hell kind of shoes you're wearing, but most shoes do NOT have an inch and a half thick sole. Mine are maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick. Anyways, the difference between height only matters to the pro scouts who didn't think Russell Wilson could see over an OL even though he played for Wisconsin, so take it with a grain of salt.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:19 PM
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Cleats

Could add an inch and with the round up we're at 6'.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:32 PM
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That's a good question. Do we have an "official" 40 time for Denard while at Michigan? I'm sure he will be timed at the Pro Combine.

 

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:37 PM
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Isn't Denard always been

Isn't Denard always been listed at 5' 10"?

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:10 PM
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Nope

ESPN, MGoBlue, Rivals, and Scout all list him as 6'0".

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:41 PM
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Pi

If you take 5104 and divide it by Pi you get 1624.65365908

 

Maybe this also means that since Denard wore 16 in college, he will wear 24 in the NFL?

Or is he 1624 cubic cm tall?

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:42 PM
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Denard Robinson

Is Percy Harvin 2.0



5 to 15 touches a game.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:06 PM
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The height notation could

The height notation could have used an explanation, otherwise, great post and thanks!

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:36 PM
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I see Denard as a Julian

I see Denard as a Julian Edelman or a Danny Woodhead type athlete in the NFL.

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January 21st, 2013 at 8:20 PM
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WolvinLA2
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I totally agree.  Like a Bob

I totally agree.  Like a Bob Sanders or Julius Peppers type, I know what you mean.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:49 PM
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Jehu the Damaja
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I was looking back through

I was looking back through all of his accomplishments during his 4 years here. People like Denard don't come around often, and I'm proud as hell of everything he's done for the university.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:53 PM
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leftrare
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Devin Hester!

Denard is Devin Hester with a brain trained on the offensive side of the ball.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:13 PM
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Brhino
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Deadspin has just broken the

Deadspin has just broken the story that, in spite of being stated to be 6 feet tall in media guides and news reports for his entire senior season, Denard Robinson is in fact only 5' 10.5".  In a hastily-called press conference, Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon defended the star quarterback, claiming that the erroneous measurement was due to a faulty tape measure, and that Robinson had no knowledge that he was actually not 6 feet tall.  Brandon claims that an internal investigation was conducted, and the tape measure in question was thrown away.

Questions remain, however.  Why did Michigan wait until after the end of the season to disclose the tape measure issue?  Why was Robinson still listed at 6' in the Outback Bowl media guide, two weeks after the investigation was said to have concluded?  Why was the tape measure quietly disposed of rather than being turned over to the National Institute of Standards and Technology for examination?

 

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January 21st, 2013 at 3:03 PM
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HAHAHAHA that's great

HAHAHAHA that's great

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January 21st, 2013 at 4:15 PM
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This should be on the front

This should be on the front page.

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January 21st, 2013 at 9:01 PM
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Also, Denard's dreadlocks are

Also, Denard's dreadlocks are revealed to be fake - black nylon applied with Velcro.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:19 PM
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If Denard is playing in the Senor Bowl

then Tacopants will surely be there too.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:41 PM
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MGoneBlue
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So all those times I rounded

So all those times I rounded up my height to 5'11, I could've been saying 6 feet?  I feel cheated.

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January 21st, 2013 at 8:23 PM
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I disagree.  I've been

I disagree.  I've been rounding up to 5'10", but I could have been saying 5095 which is way cooler.  

"How tall are you?"

"I'm five-oh-nine-five."

"Totally."

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