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Denard Robinson: Senior Bowl

Senor Bowl just finished the prospect measurements.  Denard Robinson came in at 5104/196.  Way shorter than his listed height which isn't surprising considering that he's not really a true 6'.  His future is definitely at RB/WR, but more at RB because of his ability to run the ball and find holes/cutback lanes.

EDIT: When height shows up in a 4 digit numbers, it means feet, inches then an 8th of inch so Denard is 5'10" 4/8.  That is a common abbreviation for NFL scouts.  They speak prospect's height by 4 digit numbers.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:05 PM | 5104 - 5'10 4/10"? (Score:2)
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5104 - 5'10 4/10"?

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:14 PM | It must be metric - 5104 cm. (Score:5 Normal)
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It must be metric - 5104 cm. But who knows what that comes out to in American.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:20 PM | The real question is how many (Score:5 Normal)
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The real question is how many stone is that?

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:20 PM | I need to know his height in cubits (Score:4 Normal)
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otherwise I have no frame of reference.


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January 21st, 2013 at 12:22 PM | Um, no. Even 5104 mm would (Score:5 Normal)
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Um, no. Even 5104 mm would put him at ~17 ft tall. Taco pants isn't even that tall.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:28 PM | Well I said cm so that (Score:5 Normal)
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Well I said cm so that probably changes it.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:38 PM | /S? (Score:5 Normal)
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/S?

It does change it, it would make him nearly 170 feet tall. In more conventional terms, 1.5x the size of the Megazord. This may help explain why the metric system never held on over here.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:47 PM | I thought he was only that tall (Score:5 Normal)
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When combined with Devin and Tate.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:49 PM | Not sure if serious... (Score:1 Normal)
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If you are serious about cm that would make him 167 ft tall and Denard is Taco Pants on Dilithium

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:00 PM | I must not have been clear. (Score:5 Normal)
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I must not have been clear. Yes, I'm totally serious that I think Denard is 170 feet tall.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:23 PM | But then why wouldn't the (Score:5 Normal)
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But then why wouldn't the coaches have him line up under center each play and then just fall forward?  Two of those = easy touchdown.

Borges fail.

5 4 3 2 1 Touchdown!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:19 PM | The NCAA (Score:2)
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They have a serious stick up their collective butts about crushing players into bloody gore pools.

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January 21st, 2013 at 10:40 PM | His mother (Score:2)
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Must have some child bearing hips.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:42 PM | WOOOSH (Score:5 Normal)
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WOOOSH

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:52 PM | No it's (Score:3 Informative)
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5'10" 4/8.  NFL scout use the 4 digit numbers to signify the 8th of an inch in addition to feet and inches.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:42 PM | Just to be clear on this (Score:2)
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Just to be clear on this subject, you're saying he's five feet ten and a half inches tall? Is that with or without shoes?

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:10 PM | Yes (Score:1)
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he's 5'10" and half inches tall.  That is without shoes. They never measure prospects with shoes.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:20 PM | Of course not (Score:2)
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That's what the Nike and UA high school combines are for. Sensible heels.

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January 21st, 2013 at 3:09 PM | Risk management studies (Score:2)
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recommend not playing in heels without tying your shoelaces.

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January 21st, 2013 at 3:12 PM | Risk management studies (Score:3 Normal)
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also recommend patience in save button effect.  Failing to do so = double post.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:05 PM | And also heavier than I (Score:2)
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And also heavier than I expected

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:06 PM | You could tell Denard was not (Score:3 Normal)
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You could tell Denard was not 6'. Don't get me wrong. Denard is an amazing athlete and it was a privelage to watch play in person for four years. So if Vincent Smith is listed as 5'6" I wonder how tall he really is?

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:21 PM | Rationale (Score:2 Normal)
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There is a reason to exaggerate Denard's height (neutralize some media narratives).  There's isn't any reason to do so with Smith.  He's very short and there's no way around that.  If anything you'd exagerate how short he is.

Similary, you might want to give Rodman or Barkley a couple extra inches, but Nate Robinson is short.  It can be a fine line between height being perceived as a weakness or a strength.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:26 PM | Smith (Score:1 Normal)
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Probably still 5"6.  There's much less incentive to embelish the height of a diminuative RB.  Would teams have been more worried about him if he was listed at 5"8?  Probably not.  Whereas a QB under 6 foot is a batted ball machine.  

Also, I've stood next to him and he wasn't super duper tiny.  5"6 seems about right.  

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:06 PM | Slot (Score:1)
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He won't play RB if anything he seems best suited as a return man/slot receiver..I don't think he can take the punishment as aRB

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:16 PM | I think he could be a change (Score:5 Normal)
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I think he could be a change of pace running back, similar to how the 49ers use lamichael james to complement frank gore. He doesn't need to be a featuer back but I think he could hold up for 5-10 carries a game. Just my opinion but I think that the slot compromises some of his unique running abilities, as he certainly has a knack for running the ball.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:36 PM | I could see Denard being used (Score:1)
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I could see Denard being used as a Jacquizz Rodgers type. Getting occasional carries and catching passes out of the backfield, but not an every down back. . They're the same weight but Denard has 4 inches on him and possibly a step or 2 faster.

If he gets drafted by a team like San Fran, Washington, Philly, or even Seattle he could be an extremely dangerous option in the backfield with the threat of him being able to run, pass, or catch.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:08 PM | Also, I am sure that with him (Score:1)
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Also, I am sure that with him slated to play RB/Slot, his work out regimen would change to add some needed bulk. Clinton Portis is listed as 5'11 205, Emmitt Smith 5' 9 216, Barry Sanders 5' 8 203 for comparison sake. Denard looks pretty thin at 196 so I would think he could add some bulk without much sacrifice to speed.

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:21 PM | LaMichael James...Jacquizz (Score:3 Normal)
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LaMichael James...Jacquizz Rodgers-type...well that settles it - Chip Kelly's going to draft him!

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:26 PM | Rodgers was Oregon State. But (Score:4 Normal)
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Rodgers was Oregon State. But close enough

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January 28th, 2013 at 11:29 AM | (No subject) (Score:2)
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D'oh!

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:26 PM | For him to get reps as a 3rd (Score:4 Normal)
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For him to get reps as a 3rd down back he is going to have to show that he can pick up the blitz.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:24 PM | Why do people keep saying he (Score:5 Normal)
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Why do people keep saying he can't take punishment? The dude had as many carries as a "feature back" in 2010, and somewhat fewer but still a lot of carries in 11 and 12. All while running the offense and throwing an additional ~20 times a game.



Denard played just as hard as a feature back - even the toughest RBs usually take a breather after every couple of plays. Denard didn't. And through all that, his worst injury only kept him out of a couple games. Sure he had to sit for a few drives and halves in that period, but what RB doesn't? And besides that many of his injuries were ones that made it hard for him to be a QB but he probably could have kept running if necessary (being the star QB, we probably were more cautious than we'd be with an RB with a minor boo boo.)



Denard is tough. Some of his best runs cone from working in traffic up the middle. He could be a feature back if allowed and if he learns to block. WR is a waste - Denard begs to be fed behind the LOS so he can make LBs and crashing safeties look stupid.

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January 21st, 2013 at 8:12 PM | He can take punishment, but (Score:1)
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He can take punishment, but the end result is maybe the problem (as he's taken so much):

 

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:09 PM | An inch and a half is a (Score:2)
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An inch and a half is a pretty discernable exaggeration (with regards to height, obvs).  Dafuq is the purpose of lying about athlete's heights and weights again?

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:15 PM | Blatant disregard for the (Score:2 Normal)
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Blatant disregard for the truth. I'm beside myself right now.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:16 PM | Intimidate opponents (Score:3 Normal)
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MGoPoints: 539

Every team does it. Not surprising at all

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January 21st, 2013 at 3:16 PM | So we can get in the minds of (Score:2)
ReadYourGuard
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Joined: 08/21/2008
MGoPoints: 6192

So we can get in the minds of opponents before they actually hit the field.

I, myself, am 6'5' 295lbs.  Better watch yourself.

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
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January 21st, 2013 at 12:15 PM | What does 5104/196 mean? (Score:1)
dahblue
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Joined: 11/09/2009
MGoPoints: 1477

What does 5104/196 mean?

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:17 PM | Simplified, that's 26 and (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17668

Simplified, that's 26 and 8/196. I hope that helps.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:20 PM | I was pretty sure he was (Score:2 Normal)
dahblue
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Joined: 11/09/2009
MGoPoints: 1477

I was pretty sure he was 472´i9))^, but looks like I was wrong.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:06 PM | Simple math error (Score:2 Normal)
FreeTheFabFivePlz
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Joined: 03/08/2011
MGoPoints: 1025

It happens to be best of us

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:20 PM | Just a fancy way to say 26 (Score:5 Normal)
david from wyoming
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Joined: 03/15/2009
MGoPoints: 2813

Just a fancy way to say 26 and 2/49.

Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th

I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:18 PM | 5104/196=26. So his number at M should have been #26 (Score:2 Normal)
brooktrail
Joined: 05/31/2011
MGoPoints: 442

We gave him wrong number jersey all the way.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:22 PM | When is this game?? And what (Score:3 Normal)
BOGEY
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Joined: 03/14/2010
MGoPoints: 146

When is this game?? And what the heck do all these numbers mean?

GO BLUE!

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:23 PM | Ha, they measure by 8ths (Score:5 Informative)
ChrisBrown
Joined: 01/04/2011
MGoPoints: 44

So Denard is 5'10 and 4/8, or more simply 5'10.5

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:24 PM | Do they run a 40 at the (Score:3 Normal)
brandon_cook
Joined: 01/21/2011
MGoPoints: 141

Do they run a 40 at the senior bowl?

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January 21st, 2013 at 2:28 PM | No (Score:1)
Michigan4Life
Joined: 07/29/2010
MGoPoints: 5670

what's important for the Senior Bowl is how players prepare for practices and how well they perform in practices which is far more important than games.  NFL scouts/personnel leave after the last day of practice.

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January 21st, 2013 at 12:25 PM | An inch and a half difference (Score:2 Normal)
Mat
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Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 1506

is not 'way shorter'.  It's pretty standard shoes-on/shoes-off differential.  If he was a basketball player he'd have been listed at 6'2.

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January 21st, 2013 at 1:51 PM | Denard's height (Score:3 Normal)
M_Jason_M
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Joined: 01/09/2013
MGoPoints: 251

I don't know what the hell kind of shoes you're wearing, but most shoes do NOT have an inch and a half thick sole. Mine are maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick. Anyways, the difference between height only matters to the pro scouts who didn't think Russell Wilson could see over an OL even though he played for Wisconsin, so take it with a grain of salt.

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