Kinda hard to figure out what team you're talking about. I think it's a close race.
i would find this more credible if it was about Tom Crean
Kinda hard to figure out what team you're talking about. I think it's a close race.
Definitely funny considering the jaguars are the worse team in the NFL
Sure, Jacksonville has the least fans in the NFL, and has been terrible in the last couple of years, but people forget just how truly awful the Lions are/have been: there is no comparsion - the Jaguars have a much more relevant recent history.
Lions: 1 playoff win since 1957
Jaguars: 5 playoff wins since 1996 (last one was in 2007).
Never forget -- the Lions have the worst on-field perfomance of any US team in the four big team sports over the last 50+ years. It's not a fun team to be "your" team, as any Lions fan will tell you.
Yes, he avoided the horrible fate if going to play for a shitty team in a crappy cit... oh
.. I have to watch Jags games? Ugh.
Congrats though... rooting for him like few others.
Ill have to start following the Jaguars now. Im so glad he got picked he has done so much for Michigan football.
Prove them all wrong Denard!
Im really surprised and maybe even a little upset for the kid that it took this long. Tebow went in the freakin 1st rd and Pat White went in the 2nd. Denard is better than both...
And really don't like him but I do know he got the broncos to the playoffs and won a game. Plus he was one of the best college football players of his decade. Even if you don't like a dude you gotta give him his due. I always thought Jacksonville had every reason to gran him and give him a shot. What do they have to lose? One more game?
Tebow won a Heisman, had better passing numbers than Denard, scored more touchdowns, and took his NFL team to the playoffs as a QB. Denard has to change positions because teams don't want him as a QB, and it's unclear whether he'll be a RB, WR, DB, or returner. I think it's a little misleading/presumptuous to say that Denard is better than Tebow, although time will tell...
The dude's practices have become legendary for being so pathetic. Thats why the Jets never put him on the field, the Broncos traded him and the Jets cant get rid of him. I will give you his college resume, but his professional career is pedestrian at best save a few lucky wins...
Your original comment referred to Tebow's draft position, which would have been based on his college resume. It's not like the Bronco's drafted him in the first because they heard about his future practices with the Jets.
Also, to your original point, if Tebow and White were both not worth their 1st and 2nd round picks, why would a team turn around and Denard at a similar position? Doesn't your comment actually directly address why teams might be gun shy about picking Denard?
A) Teams knew Tebow couldnt play coming out of college thats why it was such a surprise when he was drafted in the first rd.
B) Denard was a much better playmaker as a runner than Tebow and slightly better than Pat White.
C) Denard made no beefs about playing QB unlike the other 2 which was suppose to improve his draft stock
Just stop man. Everypne hates Tebow, but if you compare thier college careers Tebow compares very favorable to Denard.
I was only speaking of the drastic difference from a 1-2nd rd pick to a 5th. Denard isnt the first to make this switch, and I cant recall a player as dynamic as Denard going this low in a long time.
You keep mentioning these failures that went early, and yet you seem to expect NFL teams to continue drafting the types of super-athletic guys high in the draft who have failed in the past.
Maybe teams are learning from their past mistakes and not wasting high picks on position-changing tweeners...
This is like arguing Dilfer vs. Marino. Dilfer won a Super Bowl, whether you like him or not; Marino didn't win a Super Bowl, regardless of his stats.
Tebow had a better college career than Denard. And despite the fact that he's a backup right now, he has a better NFL career to this point. If Denard gets cut by the Jaguars and never latches on, Tebow will be a better player in just about every regard except rushing yards.
to Matt Jones the QB turned tight end. If he went in the first, how is it possible that someone as electric as Denard had to wait so long?
Because Jones was 6'6, projected as a WR, and ran a 40 that was in the 4.3's at 230 lbs. Workout monster, obviously.
Yes, but that was a cocain-aided 4.3 40.
How did that work out for the Jaguars?
Some people's argument seems to be "Other physical freaks went in the first round and turned out to be shitty, so why can't Denard do the same thing?" I don't know the answer to that.
Pat White was drafted by a team that featured the single wing/wildcat formation as part of their offensive attack and Tebow was one of the most decorated and successful quarterbacks in NCAA history.
The gimmicky nature of the Wildcat makes Pat White look like a bad pick for the round he was taken, but to the Dolphins it made perfect sense at the time.
As for Tebow, well...as of now he has won just as many division banner and ONE MORE PLAYOFF GAME for the Broncos than Peyton Manning.
I'm not saying Denard couldn't have higher than thefifth round; a few years earlier he might have, based on the White/Tebow picks. But Denard may still have a bit of a wonky hand, too.
I'm glad he got drafted and will play pro ball in his home state. I wish he could've been picked by a better team, but you've gotta believe that he'll have a better chance of making (and contributing) on Jacksonville's roster than most.
Crap I was hoping he would go to a team I see on TV regularly. Oh well congrats to Danard. Miss you already man!
Can't watch them on TV? So I'm guessing you live in Jacksonville? I'm sorry.
Glad he went in the early fifth, rather than later as had been expected. Don't see many Jags here in SF. I was hoping the Niners would sack up and take him in the Fourth.
If everyone on this board is telling the truth about become a Jaguars fan, their fanbase has at least doubled.
As someone who has never really rooted for an NFL team, I kept telling everyone that my loyalty was up for auction in this draft. I'll stand by what I said, but I was definitely hoping it would be a team that would make it easy on me.
Congrats to Denard on what I'm sure is a special day.
Will the team keep your allegence when Denard is gone?
Where Denard goes, I go. That's my allegiance.
I spend almost all of my time watching college sports (Red Wings are the only exception) so the amount of time I'll spend rooting for Jacksonville while he's there probably won't be enough to form the kind of bond most people have with their team.
Jags are one of the worst run franchises in sports. Everything they touch goes to hell. Hopefully Denard can be the exception or they move to LA.
Who hired Mularkey, went 2-14, fired him and then just hired Gus Bradley.
There is also some stuff regarding one of his plants in Michigan, but that's not for this site.
Glad he's only 4.5 hours away from home - slightly shorter drive than to Michigan. Best of luck to you, Denard! Represent the Maize & Blue!
and in gif form:
That gif will live forever....
I couldn't believe I made it so far down this thread without anyone pointing out how insane that clip is. The timing on him popping up is better than anything that could even be scripted.
This clip is going to get chopped up and will be everywhere within a few days. Denard is making his rounds on the viral circuit lately.
Also yes, I now cheer for the Jaguars?
I love the new uni's!!!
I'm actually very glad he didn't end up with my team -- or the Browns, of course.
I started following JAX when Henne was drafted there, and now? I'm a full-fledged fan.
umm.....Chad Henne was drafted by the Dolphins. He signed a 2-year deal with the Jags last year
That's what I meant. I remember taking an interest in the Dolphins, briefly, when Long & Henne were there...Henne with the Phins feels like ages ago (even though it obviously wasn't).
Wasn't drafted there. They got him last year. He was drafted by Miami. So you are a huge fan of a team after "following" them one year.
Sorry for the heavy sarcasm. Couldn't resist.
Also the Jags drafted him directly after WR and Outback Bowl antihero Ace Sanders. I believe this is the aporpriate place to misuse the word "irony".
Oh weird. I didn't realize the Jags were the ones who took Sanders. Why would they do that, draft both Sanders and Robinson?
Because they need offensive weapons? Both these guys can create their own yardage which is key on a team that doesn't have a QB who can't do it got them.
They just seem like redundant picks. Obviously it's up in the air how Robinson will be used (especially with Jacksonville drafting him as a RB), but they seem like they'd be playing very similar roles.
But no argument that Denard can make something out of nothing, which is something a team like Jacksonville can appreciate.
I see them using Sanders as the slot/compliment to Blackmon, and using Denard as the compliment to MJD