Even though he says his arm is only about "60-70%", he still wants to show some NFL teams exactly what kind of skills he can bring to the table. He still says he's a "receiver all the way", but just wants to throw a few passes to show off his entire repetoire. Can't wait to see what this young man will do with his opportunity to play in the NFL.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000148747/article/denard-robinson-p...
Randle El
Randle El is probably always
Randle El is probably always going to be the guy they will compare Denard to because of their skillset. Not a bad guy to be compared to though.
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I bet he throws passes...to
I bet he throws passes...to himself.
Randle El would be ok and
Randle El would be ok and maybe some Josh Cribbs too. He played QB at college then made the switch to special teams/reciever in the pro's. Cribbs is bigger and more physical than Denard though but the position switch comparison is valid.
I just hope Denard doesnt turn into a Pat White.
I was pretty young
I was pretty young when Randle El was the quarterback at Indiana. How was his arm compared to Denards?
Arm comparison
I recall Randle El being very strong in his passing game. Not good enough to start in a pro style offense, but his double pass was certainly effective.
I hate to say it, but Denard's floating lofter may not cut the mustard in the NFL. I still love him, and will continue to do so when he starts his next career in automotive sales.
ha ha ha!!!
Don't you know Denard has a laser arm that launches passes from his tremendous smile?
Don't be coming in here with that noodle armed stuff. Denard is the greatest talent ever and he is only going to be drafted in the 5th round because of an NFL conspiracy.
ha ha ha!
We are the dead.
Denard actually has pretty decent arm strength. He
Denard actually has pretty decent arm strength. He is just not very accurate throwing the ball.
Preemptive qualification: I
Preemptive qualification: I don't know anything about evaluating QBs.
I agree that Denard's arm strength always seemed fine to me. His issue tended to be accuracy, on touch passes specifically, and decision making, though there was some talk about Borges just telling him, when in doubt, heave it down field to Hemingway. Provided he had a clear lane to throw a flat, laser-like pass, he did alright.
trolling?
I said he had an arm... dude is greatest quarterback ever.
I don't think he has accuracy issues either, I blame the space-time continuum and it's conspiracy against Denard as well.
love you,
jdon
We are the dead.
I still remember his reverse pass in SB XL
against the Seahawks. He hit Hines Ward in stride like 50 yards downfield while Randel El was running to the side. I don't think Denard will ever be able to do this:
As a Steeler fan
Randle El did this a lot, probably two or three times a year (they attempted it, anyway) and he was almost always on the money.
"A Michigan man will coach Michigan."
Here's The Interview...
I can't embed this as it plays right off the NFL AM site, but here is the link to the segment with Denard Robinson's interview via Skype. (LINK)
It's about six minutes long and it is a pretty relaxed, informative interview, I thought, from the standpoint of where Robinson sees himself. This is where he yet again displays a great attitude, seeing himself in a variety of roles and willing to give them all a try. More specifcally, they asked him if he saw himself in a Percy Harvin type role potentially (WR / KR).
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They're very similar players IMO
Even thought Randel-El seemed to be thicker/stockier, Denard is better between the tackles.
That said, everyone wants to compare Denard to White, Vick, etc. But Randel-El has always been who I feel he most resembles.
I'm glad he's throwing passes because his arm is hopefully a little better. However, the fact that he says 60-70% worries me that it's more permenant. I know we have some medical folks on this board. Does anyone know how long it takes to recover from this injury? I know it varies a great deal, but I feel like he's said 50/60% for months now.
I just want the kid to be healthy because he can find a spot in the NFL.
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Like someone mentioned below,
Like someone mentioned below, I remember hearing the more knowledgable posters say that this kind of injury usually can be fixed via surgery. Denard is probably just putting it off until after the draft. Better to have an arm at 60-70% whilst scouts poke and prod than 0% because you just had surgery.
It can be fixed by surgery
But it also can recur, depending on your physiology. I've dealt with this problem for about 15 years since I was a teen. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Denard experiences this again in his lifetime, since it looked to me in 2011 that he was having this problem, and not just this year. The I-can't-feel-my-fingers-hand-shaking is very easy to recognize if you've done it most of your life.
Throwing certainly can't
Throwing certainly can't hurt.....gives the defense something to think about, even if you only throw a couple of passes a season.
I'm wondering if Denard will ever get complete healing of whatever nerve damage occurred. Any of our docs know just how long healing for his type of injury can take?
I thought I heard that he may
I thought I heard that he may need surgery for it to fully heal. Maybe he figured it was best to wait until after the draft so that he could focus training? Not sure.
Those Who Stay...
Like I said
RB is Denard's best position. Yes, he has gotten better at catching the ball, but there are still awkwardness in catching it from Denard. Why bother letting him chase after the ball where you can keep the ball in his hands. The way he runs is exactly what you see from a RB.
I was just trying to think of
I was just trying to think of players who have made the move from college QB to NFL RB, and haven't thought of any. There are some obvious QB to WR examples above, but are there any players who (successfully) made the move from mobile QB to RB?
I don't believe there's a player who have done it successfully
but this article is really good at how Robinson's skill set translate well at RB in the NFL: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/41841/321/denards-nfl-projection
Regardless of RB or WR,
Regardless of RB or WR, though, Denard definitely has extra skills to learn. Whether it's pass catching and route running or block schemes, he's an incomplete package at the moment. I just hope he lands somewhere with a smart and patient offensive staff.
Tim Tebow?
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Michael Robinson
Although a stranger case, he went from QB at Penn State as some may recall, now I believe he is a fullback for the 49ers after starting his career as a RB for the Seahawks (could be wrong)
Bo' Money Bo' Problems
RB
Although moving him to RB certainly removes the ackwardness of catching a ball, it dramatically increases the chance that he will get an outside linebacker at full speed. I don't wish that upon anyone that isn't 230 pounds and ready for the hit. You can't just run out of bounds five yards sooner in the NFL.
Compare him to Javhid Best. First rounder. Same approximate size and speed. Outside of a 70 yard scamper against the Bears on Monday Night Football, he was one injury after another. It's a tough position.
Best isn't a good comparison
Best isn't a good comparison when it comes to injury. He came into the NFL with a nasty history of concussions, and it was a big red flag when the Lions took him. Denard may be of a similar build, but he defnitely doesn't have the history that Best had.
He get exposed to
more hits than RB. He plays QB like a RB and when he drops back, there's DL going after Denard in pass rush. There's more opportunities for Denard to get hit a ton. He had two major injuries, one is the nerve injury and the lower body injury. Best had multiple concussions which is a big red flag.
I hope he does something like
I hope he does something like this.
Dup
F*cking IE!
I had wondered
I thought it would be a really good idea. Not at the combine, where time is limited and everyone wants to see your 40's, etc, but at the pro day, I thought it would be a good idea.
Tree might want to show off his skill catching balls from Denard anyway. He's had a lot more experience with it, and might look more smooth than he would catching them from Gardner or Bellomy.
I don't know if I would throw
I don't know if I would throw if I were him. He isn't going to have his usual arm strength and I could see coaches saying that it shows he isn't committed to wide receiver as much as he should be. It doesn't seem like there's anything to gain by throwing.
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It was a great trick play for the Steelers. The Double Pass featuring Antwaan Randle El. I don't think Denard will be able to get out of this man's shadow, so play along and improve your draft position.