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just what the Pistons need: a third string center. Joe Dumars was replaced by a mean ol' alien a few years back you guys.
this would be a close approximation of hypothetical graduation speech
no you guys they're just super pumped about COLLLLLLLLLLLLEGE
not a surprise
premature congrats. One thing we can be sure of: he'll take fewer asinine penalties than Abdelkader
Thanks to ugly transitions between Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley/Davis, Tennessee is on the edge of APR penalties for football.
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strong indictment of AAU right heah
Glockner sides with justice
a good cause, and a good time
good job gents
"Jeff Withey shouldn't have called him Peter Dinklage, is all I'm saying."
this would be bad if it wasn't LIES
Drew Henson's career, or not quite career, or whatever.
“I’m more of a back-to-the-basket type of big man that rebounds a lot,” Swanigan said on Wednesday, describing his game. “I have a Zach Randolph type of game — that’s who I base my game off of. Being physical and playing with both hands on the rim.”
1. Denard covers up allot of deficiencies on offense. Say what you will about his passing but the fact that the kid can break a long gain or even a 4 or 5 yard run on any given play - makes up for allot of other offensive personnel deficiencies. More on this below...
2. Toussaint has not been effective at all this year. He is not running North and South. Most will point at Fitz and say its his fault but I think we need to examine what's going on in the trenches. We may be having issues on the offensive line that are not being talked about. Are the holes there? Again Denard's dynamic running ability covers up for what may otherwise be average (or worse) offensive line play. I don't think it's fair to lay all of the blame on Fitz. And for those of you who think Thomas Rawls is the answer I would encourage you to evaluate our blocking up front.
3. I was at a bar watching the game and I could not hear what they were saying about Denard's injury. But I have to think it was killing him to be on the sidelines. The fact that he never went in leads me to think this may be a season ending injury. At the very least this is a recurring theme with him and so we have to be looking at other QB options to finish the year and beyond.
4. Bellomy isn't ready. I won't bash the kid but we all saw what happened out there tonight. It was Nick Sheridan-esque. Given that Gardner hasn't exactly been producing as a WR of late I wonder if we're better off sticking with Gardner as the #1 backup. At this point I do not think that Bellomy can beat any of the teams remaining on our schedule. I also think Gardner would gain valuable time which would prepare him to lead the team in 2013 (and 2014 if he gets his medical redshirt). Nobody can tell me that Bellomy is the better of the two QB's...
5. Lots of issues on offense. Susupect blocking. Lack of game breakers at RB and WR. No heir apparent on the roster as the starting QB. Suspect play calling.
6. Sadenned by Denard's injury. We had an excellent shot at winning this game...
We've gotten used to the luxury that 3rd and 5 does not have to be a passing down. That puts a lot of pressure on a defense, and that's all Denard's doing. We are going to miss that.
It's certainly going to be a transition to whoever follows Denard.
That said, before academics became a factor (they always do...) our friend Tate Forcier had a pretty good year as a Freshman. If study hall had mattered...
I'm looking at you Shane Morris.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
Don't you know? Sugar Shane is gonna lead Michigan to 4 straight national championships during his time here. It has already been universally accepted by the rest of the college football world that this will happen.
I hate ohio. Thats all you need to know.
that was the worst-looking QB play I have ever seen, and I remember watching rick leach play. the stats bear that out. nick sheridan even looked better and he had zero experience.
Sometimes I wonder if Denard is a crutch for coaching staffs. Is it possible that having him has stunted the growth of the rest of our offense? Maybe I'm just numb and bitter and incredibly disapointed. Nope. No maybe about it.
I hope Denard gets better soon. We need him.
Denard is a great athelete and if we want to honor him - cause he won't play QB at NFL level - we should have made his gifts/capabilities more apparent by letting him show some reps at KR, WR,etc.
Also, just because his back-up was unprepared doesn't show how much better DR is or blessed we are to have him. His back-up was unprepared. period.
I would rather sing the praises of Woodson or Howard than Denard, a gifted athlete who was a turnover machine at times.
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8 games into his red shirt freshman year I exspected a lot more out of Bellamy. I turned off the game late in the 3rd quarter after Bellamy went 1-9 with a pick and 2 sacks. At that point Gardner or even Kennedy should have been put in the Game.
I can't see any offensive player actually wanting to play for this coaching staff. The preseason hype of this team was a better team with more losses. The offense has taken a huge step back this year while losing 2 players neither of which is ripping up the NFL
Bellomy, on the other hand, probably didn't sleep well.
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8 games into his red shirt freshman year I exspected a lot more out of Bellamy.
You do realize that Bellomy didn't actually play much in the first seven games of the season, right? This was his first extended action of his career. If it had actually been his eighth game I think he'd have done a lot better.
He has played multiple series this season and most importantly has practiced all year as the number 2. The whole we have faith in Russel is coach speak for we have no other choice
Bellomy is in his second year. expectation is for the position remember?
In 2008, 2009, 2010 we were supposed to win 10 games with 1st year QBs. Because thats what Michigan does.
So I guess I'm supposed to be mad at our coaching staff in 2012 because they couldn't even win half a game with a 1st year QB.
The biggest problem with this game was Hoke/Borges' inability to realize that Bellomy clearly wasn't ready after his 4th or 5th drive and give Gardner a shot to run the offense. I'll never understand that level of stubborn.
Man, you need to let the Rodriguez stuff go. It seems like in every post you're fighting the last war.
Actually I'm just pointing out how unrealistic people were then and how unrealistic it was yesterday to expect Bellomy to perform at a high level and how its often the same people who were so critical then that are now so understanding.
But you wouldn't get that.
And if you were being realistic, you'd see that this is literally the only thread I've pointed this out in because it actually ties into what we saw yesterday.
You should probably get over the fact that Rodriguez coached here and is still relevant in discussion about the current team.
gardner should have seen the field as soon as they knew denard couldn't go.
I don't think anyone would expect Bellomy to play at a "high level". We just didn't expect to see likely the worst game ever, especially after hearing the praises from coaches of his practice play.
He's a 3 star, RS freshman who was thrown into a road game against a very good opponent. His performance was completely understandable.
That's not on Borges or Hoke. What's on Borges and Hoke is the idiotic decision to play him to the end, instead of switching over to Gardner when it was clear he wasn't at all ready.
Denard will come back from his injury and finish off his career with a Rose Bowl MVP. Book it.
Boy do I hope you're right.
I'll miss Denard so much. We'll never see his like at Michigan again.
Denard has spent the offseason working really hard and smiling at people.
Nobody ever talks about the possibility that we have the worst group of wide receivers in FBS history. They cant block, they certainly can't catch unless the ball is buried into their stomachs, and Im sorry, but if you're 5'9" you should have flawless hands, and if you're 6'5" and there's a jump ball, you should not be getting outlept and picked off by a 6'1" corner.
So with this, I ask: What in the hell did we recruit between 2008 and 2010???? We know we didnt recruit either line, linebackers, secondary, but our RBs and WRs are abysmal as well. We literally have 2 good players on offense (Denard and Lewan), 3-4 good players on defense, and no sort of depth.
Even the upperclassmen seem to have regressed. Roy Roundtree has been terribly disappointing these past few years. Maybe pilfering players from Purdue isn't such a good strategy.
I guess you didn't listen to last nights game, because apparently Roundtree is top 10 all-time at Michigan.
All of our WRs have the dropsies.
Abort, Retry, Fail?
but I think denard's shitty passing has screwed up our wideouts. When I watched bellomy throw a good ball and hit the guys in the hands they looked surprised...
call it what you will but I think the whole offense is a house of cards and when that main piece is out the cards tumble down... and if the offense would have been built better around a real quarterback we would be less 'explosive' and more productive.
We are the dead.
when did bellomy throw a good ball. he doesn't have first string arm strength and I somehow think the coaching staff missed that fact until last night.
Yep, inaccurate QBs can eventually just break down the nerve/muscle nexuses of WRs that are responsible for the ability to make routine. Rational people know this.
I've been arguing about this with my father every week since we turned around after ND. I asked him what he thinks our offense will be next year. He talks about the scheme, and I simply ask, no, where are the yards going to come from? He never has an answer for that.
Denard isn't perfect. In some ways, his flaws are as notable as his strengths. But he is a magnificent athlete, a special QB and we will miss him frightfully, especially next year. I don't care how many INTs he throw from now until his last day, I will never, never forget what he is done for this program. It would have been a dark few years without him.
Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords.
I couldn't have said it better myself. As of right now, Denard IS the offense and there's obviously a huge drop off in production when he comes out the game.
Denard is fantastic and he will be missed- simple as that.
"Where are the yards going to come from?"
This is an interesting question because it is an appropriate one to ask, If we look at the rushing game in particular, since the beginning of the 2010 season, Michigan has amassed 7,638 net yards of rushing, and Robinson is responsible for 3,824 of them, which is 50.1% of our net rushing in 2.67 seasons now. We've scored 82 rushing TDs, 36 of which were scored by Denard Robinson personally, which is good for 43.9% over that same stretch of 2.67 seasons.
It's been discussed in many threads here, but even though Denard Robinson is not the best quarterback in Michigan history on several important metrics, I don't think we've ever had an athlete like him and we may never see such an athlete again, at least not for a long time. Even last night, when the offense clearly isn't working on all cylinders, he is a factor when he is in there and he is a distraction to the opposing "D". It is rare to have a player that electrifying, or to opponents, that intimidating by virtue of sheer athleticism. His contributions should never be forgotten.
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a dark few years
Shut up nucky.
Question a player's "intelligence" again. See what happens.
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Send me a post card from Bolivia, buddy. At least its warm this time of year.
Please ban this annoying twat.
I was going to write about how you, of course, must be an experienced QB, fit to judge Denard based on your years of quality contribution to the sport. But then the joke just sort of faltered...
I guess probably because you're just a troll. Jusssst a troll.
Denard might be a bad QB, but you are obviously the dumbest coach out there.
Thanks for your lengthy contribution on the board, which none of us really go through all the way. LMAO.
What happened against Lyndonville?
do you care to explain this comment:
If I were coach obrien I seriously would take a 15 yard penalty to spear Braxton miller while he's down. I hate them that much and am that classless that I would like nothing more then to see him concussed again
with a better explanation than this?:
I just hate miller and Meyer that much. I never want to see a kid hurt but I generally have that much hate for those two that I could care less if he were concussed again
Because honestly, I'm not seeing it. At all.
"We bring you to Michigan to take care of Michigan; your job is to protect that block M."
Please coach, find a different team to follow. Michigan doesn't want you. Michigan damn sure doesn't need you.
if anyone is interested, those comments can be found here:
I hope someone arm punts your ass right to Bolivia.
You- quit sharing your thoughts. Ignorant asshole.
Since when did calling a QB an unintelligent QB an offense of anything but an opinion?!? I agree. He is clearly our entire offense, live or die by him in health or injury but he is not a smart QB. He panics under the most basic pressure most of the time, often throws into double/triple coverage because he knew who he was throwing to before the snap, rarely knows when to take off on non-designed runs and when he does he often takes the absolute wrong route, etc.
Not to mention horribly inaccurate, bad footworkn mechanics, etc. That said, he is our offense and best chance to win. Obviously. I, too, love the kid but cant want to get back to a moderately mobile QB who "gets" the position. "Old School UM QBs", in short.
Opinions are just as subject to moderation as anything else.
Well that is absolutely horrible, IMHO. No excuse or reason to do anything but agree, disagree or be indifferent to an honest opinion. Everyone with half a brain knew he was calling him an unintelligent PLAYER or QB, not a person.
It's a football blog/forum that, AFAIK, is not located in North Korea. He wasnt insulting Denard as a person (or a player, really). Just an opinion that the facts support......IN MY OPINION.
Blue, I get what you're going at -- Denard is obviously a smart kid. Every time I've heard him speak he seems to have a wonderful head on his shoulders, and let's be honest: stupid kids don't get degrees at UM. I absolutely love cheering for the kid, and I couldn't be happier that he's on our side.
That said, Denard's football IQ is honestly not very good. He seems to struggle mightily to read defenses prior to the snap, he has struggled with his reads on the zone read option his entire career (either that or he's consistently being coached to hold on to the option a second and a half longer than pretty much every QB I've ever seen). He's also been inconsistent on his passing reads (reference: Aaaaaarrrrrggggh Denard throws).
Denard is an incredible talent and a phenomenal gamer. He plays incredibly hard. But he seems to have struggled to find consistent coaching throughout his career, especially the last two. With Denard at the helm, this is the kind of team that should be up-tempo and letting the coaching staff call audibles on the sideline (I'm in favor of the coaching staff calling audibles for just about anyone not named Luck or Manning, that's not a dig on Denard). Instead our offense seems unable to adapt to what they're seeing. That's obviously not all Denard (I would argue at least half of it is coaching).
Without Denard, this team is probably 7-5 at best. He's such an incredible, dynamic player who changes the tenor of the play on the field simply by being out there. But it's important to remember that he's not perfect, and I really think that criticizing his football IQ is a legitimate point to bring up.