Seems like he has signed a letter of intent with Fort Scott CC in Kansas. Anybody have any info on this? This. Sucks. Balls. if true.
Demar Dorsey News (not good)
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I wish... check the link. Then use the drop down to pull up 2010-2011. My dong can't take any more punches and I really wanted six zero to make a "no fly zone" shirt. Fuck!
If I don't check the link, does that mean it never happened?
Found something hope it helps out
a swing and a miss.
for the stupidest post of the year competition.
for the most uninformed reply of the year competition
a JUCO LOI list with one of UM's prized recruits on it "stupidest post of the year"?
A: It's a joke
B: He legitimately needs to take a semester at JUCO to qualify and wouldn't be able to play for us this year anyway.
So... yeah. Why freak out?
how does either of that make it a stupid post?
It's information that is relevant to UM football and UM football this year as many people were expecting Dorsey to come in and compete right away at a CB position. The fact that he may need to go to JUCO and has gone as far as possibly signing a letter of intent is a new development.
Finally if he actually does go to JUCO what are the chances he actually ends up at UM? Pretty slim given UM's reluctance to take JUCO players anyway and UM admissions apparent crackdown (Witty).
Edit: And I don't see anyone really freaking out, yet. It is early though. But it is a legitimate question for the board that the OP presented.
think he was going to play this year, anyway? Almost everyone said he needed a redshirt to develop.
that said he needed a redshirt. And yes I did expect him to play this year. There are essentially three CB's on the roster right now. That's not quite enough especially with the potential of one of those moving to FS. And there have been several reports stating that UM expected him to come in and compete right away for the starting job.
So yes, I did.
that's fine. Whatever. You'll have to forgive me if I don't worry too much about Freshmen, on April 2nd, that have a report randomly show up on the internet that they MAY be attending a Junior College, we're not sure.
Certainly not something to go "Oh shit! My life is over!" about. But, you know, whatever. Would it be a blow? Yeah. But it's not like he's the only good player we got this year.
Plus I'm still suspect about it because of when it came out and we heard NOTHING else before this about it.
Quite possibly our best recruit has now apparently signed a LOI for A DIFFERENT COLLEGE. Playing the apathy card is quite disingenuous, considering your 9000+ points. People have a right to be sitting on the edge of their seats right now.
In my first reply, I really did think it was a joke. Evidently it was not, so I can be negged for that. Sure. Maybe I was too quick to dismiss it.
But why? Why should they be on the edge of their seats? Was Dorsey going to be the make or break between 5 and 7 wins? Is he planning to go to OSU after JC, IF HE'S EVEN GOING TO JC AT ALL?
Don't freak out. Not with the only reports being, "Something may be happening. Possibly. We're not sure." It's stupid. It's panicky, and it's pointless. Los Angeles may have exploded in a gigantic volcano 5 seconds ago. We're not sure. That would be a huge disaster. But lets wait till we get some facts before we say anything but, "Oh. I hope not."
That would be AWESOME! Call Tommy Lee Jones...
I submit that that would be very un-awesome.
I submit that we should attempt to minimize the reply box width with continued replies.
I will have no part in this.
Look how skinny I am.
it was this easy.
You have your posts view long enough to get all the posts on one page...because if it pushes to page 2, they expand again. And yes, sadly, I know that.
Demar, if you can read this, we hope this is all a big misunderstanding. Be well.
"Certainly not something to go "Oh shit! My life is over!" "
I don't think anyone is going that route. The responses so far have been pretty calm and collected. Nowhere near the typical meltdown. But it is still early.
"Yeah. But it's not like he's the only good player we got this year."
Agreed, but he certainly was the best UM had incoming at a position of need. I did not have the same expectations for Cullen, Talbott, or Avery.
"Plus I'm still suspect about it because of when it came out and we heard NOTHING else before this about it."
That's what makes it NEWS.
I did expect Demar to be part of the two deep this year. Like me said with him going the JUCO route and Umich not being very open to JUCO kids this, to me at least is not good news and is something to at least post. If he was doing a 5th year at a prep school I would feel a little better about it. It is the whole JUCO thing that has me worried.
Additionally, how many JUCO kids does Michigan take? Wasn't Austin Panter like the 1st in 100 years or something outrageous? This is not prep school, its juco. And everyone is saying 'oh its just to take a couple classes', but I have seen nobody provide any proof of that.
No matter what, this is Drew Sharp's fault.
Actually, he was the first since Russell Shaw in 97-98 if I recall.
Alright, so whatever, I was exaggerating. Michigan and JUCO transfers are rare, and that's what I'm talking about.
Not too many highly rated DB's that need a year to redshirt and develop. Oh wait, SHIT!
I think this post should be on the "stupidest post ever" list.
Do you not read ANYTHING? People with sources and inside the organization had been saying Dorsey could get on campus and win a starting job early on in the fall.
Where have you been?
was an emergency move to Safety. Reports aren't always accurate.
I read the more conservative reports on players with more belief than the more liberal ones. Especially freshmen. Eh. It's proven accurate enough for me over the years. Three summer months is a short time to learn and develop a LOT. Ideally, all freshmen would redshirt.
Why would he go all the way to Kansas for just one semester? He could go to a CC in Florida. This is something to freak about.
Why would one sign a letter of intent to take a class or two at a juco? I'm giessing most of us didn't sign letters of intent to attend our school of choice...
CC in Kansas.. Signing a LOI to play football... Your theory doesn't make sense.
This whole thing doesn't make sense.
Also... Scottsdale CC is the home of the Fighting Artichokes.
But why JUCO not prep school?
That in no way answers my question.
Slocum went to a prep school, which doesn't eat up your eligibility, and that's all I'm trying to figure out. Why would you got to a juco when you could go to prep school. Not that I know anything, I'm just trying to figure out the difference.
Stop being a bitch.
Very good, sauteed in a little olive oil and lemon zest. Perfect addition to a veggie pizza, too.
This is serious guys, there's a rivals post about it on the front page: (It's behind a pay wall)
It says at the bottom
"Here's what we don't know ... whether this is a backup plan for Dorsey or if this is his direction now. As soon as we hear something, we'll obviously let you know."
Sam Webb is reporting it was a back-up plan. But hasn't gone into detail yet. It's a developing story.
Edit: He insinuates it had to do with grades, but doesn't like to go into detail about that. But it was a "just in case".
I do not have mad HTML abilities as of yet
If you change the subject line of your other/double post it might make more sense, as people may think the subject line is your text as well, rather than the quote.
Thank you and done
But it was a "just in case"
Seems to me substituting
is more appropriate, unless he is already qualified.
is not what I wanted to wake up to.
Let's go to DefCon 3 and hold for more intel. We'll stall the shirt in pre-production.
It is also on the front page of Rivals(ITF Extra)
WHY???? This sucks, especially considering the fact I thought he could actually get one of the corner jobs in the fall.
maybe it's a different Demar Dorsey from Boyd Anderson High School in Fort Lauderdale.
This is the second bad event/news for me today, and it's only 8 am CST. FML.
think it's just an april fools joke. ditto about the dong punch...
I thought the day would be a good one after part 4 down below but now it seems that may not be the case. Hopefully there is a reasonable explanation that favors M on this one.
Anyone else long for the days before "Premium recruiting reporting," when no one would have any idea who Demar Dorsey is at this point in his life?
No - that would mean I would be doing work right now. Or staring at the wall. If I were not me right now, who would I be?
-- better questions are, "When I blackout drunk, who am I? What do I say to people? Who is it that is you, when you're not really there?"
True, back in the good ol days this would be true, but now any bad news is impossible to avoid and the ignorant ones read the freep and listen to valenti.
Sam and Ira said the plan the is for him to go to UM, wouldn't further elaborate. Listen guys, Dorsey had questionable academics to start with, this is probably just a back up plan in case UM admissions doesn't like his final grades or something. Remember, RR had to battle them to get them to approve Dorsey when he was about sign for Michigan. Admissions first said no, then another former UM football player (name is escaping me right now) talked to them and vouched for the kid.
Vance Bedford vouched for him. Vance recruited when Vance was at Florida
"I'll vouch for him."
"OK, as long as we've got a voucher."
So if everything with admissions works out, does anyone know when he is supposed to arrive on campus? Is he coming in June or August for the start of the fall semester/practices?
Good question. Does this mean we're going to be reading about this for the next 2-3 months before there are any firm answers? I can't wait for all of the posts speculating about what's going on...
on WTKA just said he didn't want to talk about a kid's academic or personal background. Sounded like Dorsey needs to " do some work" to get into Michigan.
There are more than 70 athletes listed as signing a letter for the CC!! Me thinks most of those represent athletes having a back up plan (try to convince yourself that a CC in Kansas is really getting 70 football recruits this year... see? Not happening).
that this is a backup plan if he doesn't get into UM?
I have no idea... or any inside info. I just noticed that the site lists 70+ "letters of intent" for that school. I have to believe that 60% or more of those will never materialize for them and that this is a common thing for athletes to cover their bases in case they need to go the CC route.
CCs are often just 2-year programs, so they probably do have a lot more football players in a given class to field a team.
That said, "letter of intent" seems a little strange to me - could be anyone who wants to enroll there any play some ball in the fall... or as you suggested, a good # of "fallback plans." Just can't imagine the school allowing THAT many "fallbacks," but maybe i'm totally wrong/misinformed about how they handle these types of things..
56% of last year's "class" for the CC never materialized.... yeah, I think many of these are back up plans.
thanks for digging that up. Definitely helps shed some rational light on the discussion.
I'm sure it is a backup plan. AFAIK, you can sign a LOI to a JC and NCAA school at the same time without any penalties.
I wonder what the spring depth chart looks like there. Is there a blog where facinating discussions on all the possibilities are taking place. I'd like to hang out in that forum for a while
Grades, grades, grades. They are very subjective. This has everything to do with punk teachers in Florida trying to rob us because he didnt commit to an SEC team.
Love me a good conspiracy theory.
To the OP - just curious, how in the hell did you find this? Did you search for Demar Dorsey on Google and go all the way to, like, page 5? Or did you get a tip of some sort? Or are you just a die-hard fan of the Fort Scott CC Artichokes?
Got it at 7:45 this morning from a good friend of mine who works at Umich as I was driving in to work. It said "Demar might be going to Fort Scott CC...heard from xxxxxxxxxx" I "x'd" out the source b/c my buddy gives me info from people close to the team. I got in to work this morning, checked this site and then rivals. Rivals had a story about it and I started to flip out.
Good man. Thanks for the post - and the heads up.
Let's just hope doesn't need this backup plan, and does the work in the classroom to get up here.
MgoBlog is the best effing sports blog on the planet.
Sam Webb strongly hinted that this might be related to grades and/or qualifying, but he specifically said he did not want to talk about grade issues about specific kids. Listening between the lines, I think Webb has heard more than he's willing to say on-air. If Dorsey does end up at a JC, that greatly lessens the chances he will eventually come here, IMHO.
No doubt Birkett will crow over this if it comes to pass.
blueblueblue: I heard about this first on WTKA about 15 minutes ago, and they heard it from somebody who saw the alleged info on a JC website.
...that he didn't know anything about it till the report, because Ira said he was going to blow up the next 5 minutes, then Sam removed himself to check it out. But it DOES sound like he knows a little more now.
Hard to tell, because they're having technical difficulties with the phone, and have pretty much removed themselves for taped interviews.
This is bad news any way you slice it. If it's legit then we don't get an awesome talent that could help us right away and the local media will sink their teeth into it. If it is a back up plan then the media will still sink their teeth in and make the kids image worse. I feel for him because 97.1 is going to have a field day with this.
I can just hear Mike Valenti now "this is just more proof that RichRod is bringing a bad crowd into Ann Arbor." Terry Foster: "Yeah, you're right, Mike. I mean look at how BRANDON GRAHAM DECIDED TO LEAVE FOR THE NFL. Even his own players don't like him.
Roster hit aside, I don't see how this exposes RichRod to any more criticism. I'm subscribing to the back up plan theory b/c it makes a lot of sense. That said, it'd suck to not have Dorsey available...for any reason.
Don't listen to 97.1.
Whether any of us listen to it or not will not matter because we are the informed minority. It's the occasional and uninformed fan that worries me. They are easily swayed.
97.1 has a huge audience, and their showhosts sound very convincing. Also they tend to shout down most people who disagree with them. It's yellow journalism at its finest.
to get talked about and there is no way around it... but i really can't see this being bigger than the sparty lather that will be going on today with final 4 being tomorrow...
I looked at last year's "class" for the CC and their roster and:
77 guys "signed" with them last year
34 actually were on the team
That means that about 56% "signed" but didn't go there. I still have to believe this is a back up plan...
I don't want a mass suicide on our hands here.
Anyone else as highly rated as Dorsey?
I guess I could look myself.
I'd like to have him, but we are so deep and talented at corner - and in the defensive backfield, in general - that it really doesn't matter.
Are you aware of how talented Dorsey is? Its not about just the defensive backfield, he is going to probably return kickoffs and punts too. He's one of those kids where you just have to have him on the field as much as possible and get the ball in his hands. Our corner depth is not that great either, we need as much talent as we can get back there and Dorsey is a major piece of the puzzle.
Was my sarcasm not obvious enough? Jeez.
Edit: I don't think people are in the mood for sarcasm this morning.
Looks like everyone is too freaked out to pick up on sarcasm this morning.
Was in dire need of a [SARCASM] tag.
It's all about timing.
I thought it was.
has yet to be determined in the defensive backfield. There's a lot of guys who were talented high school players, but not many of them have yet to show that they are talented college players on saturdays in the fall.
that he is a top 10 kid (not at his position, but period). That should say it all.
If it doesn't UF and USC really wanted him. How many other UM recruits does that apply to?
So the real answer is not a lot. So this guy must be at or near the top of our class.
Yeah, I'm sure some people picked up on it and don't get me wrong we love us some sarcasm. But sometimes it is just in bad taste.
National Signing Day was just a little more than a month ago.....and assuming that Fort Scott CC has somewhat of a lag time behind LOI signings and posting them on the internet, I think we can safely assume that Dorsey signed his Fort Scott LOI at least a week or two ago.
Demar Dorsey's grade situation hasn't changed significantly over the past month, so it's obvious that he's in a gray area for qualifying or getting in to UofM and was in that same gray area when he was recruited by our staff.
He still needs some work to do and everyone knows it, so let's hope that Demar can get his grades up and scores up far enough to get in to school.
Remember the Gallon situation last year?
Interesting to mention Gallon. I wonder how many players on our team right now signed LOIs to community colleges?
The NJCAA is going to have a record day for hits to Fort Scott's LOI website.
You guys out there?! Your children need you!
I am really pulling for this guy, even more given the Freep assault on his character. Dammit all to hell.
Signed with Michigan!
So... I think that we are in a recruiting battle with Fort Scott Community College. I think we are screwed I mean come on we went 5-7 last year!
I mean look, if some kids are picking MSU over Michigan, what's to stop them from picking Fort Scott CC over M?!
FML at first i thought this was an april fool's joke
but wear the best soul cup money can buy
Don't have a rivals account, but they have a story on it. Anyone know if there is anyone good info in it?
If you have a Scout subscription, and you are looking to set your mind at ease about this...now would be a good time to utilize your subscription.
O DON'T DO IT!
Tom to the rescue:
If you honestly think Dorsey will ever play a down of football at Michigan.
Not gonna happen.