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defense or offense is going to look like or all that much about the depth chart at certain positions. What is the rush to start predicting won-loss records.
By the way, who is this Deinhart guy?
You are formally declared a Michigan Man.
I think Iowa and Illinois are toss-ups that we really need to win. I'm saying 8-4, though it's really way too soon to tell
Did they not just lose their starting quarterback, running back, best WR, best defensive lineman and starting safety from a team that went 7-5 in the regular season?
Exactly what I thought of when I saw the L next to Iowa, even though its at Iowa. Ferentz should have a difficult time replacing the talent lost on both sides of the ball.
He can't even properly replace fluids and electrolytes, let alone whole players.
Not just best lineman (I'm assuming you are talking about Clayborn), but bascially they lose their whole defensive line with Klug and Ballard as well.
ya, im sorry, but if we lose to iowa a team that graduates 26 seniors then we truly have a pathetic team
When I awake and start swearing.
Yeah that's not happening because... Hokeamania
MSU loses several starters on their lines and both of their stud linebackers. If our offense doesn't have much of a drop off in terms of production from last year (a pretty significant if), I think we can put up points. If their o-line isn't getting as much push as last year, I think we have a great chance at winning that game.
and over-rated last year.
If we lose to Michigan State again. I can't take another year of listening to those fans rub it in our face.
Basketball. At the Breslin Center. First time since 1997. Pride somethingsomething Fall.
W/ 20 returning starters... I think everyone of those losses is at least a toss up on paper except TSIO and Nebraska.
Nebraska could be considered a toss up.. They were definitely getting worse as the year went on and we have them at home, so it should be a pretty good game. Depends on how our season is going until then.
skipping ahead to 2012? i thought we played Bama!! .....
Pump the breaks hombre, WAAAAYYY too early to make any predictions... we havent even seen any of spring ball yet. This is a dumb prediction.
Wait and see how Denard and Devin do in the Borges ball. How do our running backs look, can anyone emerge as the "go to guy" like in Michigan days of yore. Do the taller receivers like Stonum start to dominate in the more Pro-style offense? How does the D mature? Any LBs step it up to help Demens? Does the defensive backfield mature? Is T-wolf a beast again? Just pump the breaks, wait at least until June to start looking at predictions.
To make predictions, outlined your assumptions, and be prepared to adjust as we move forward during 2011........That's part of the "off season" hot stove fun around here....
anything short of 8 wins will be considered a disaster.
Coach Hoke's called B1G title or bust. Seems semi-reasonable with pretty much everybody coming back and our lines in peak form.
The context he said it in was that those were the expectations every year. I have a hard time thinking we can go through everyone this year, but we should be better than 7-6.
Western Mich Michigan Wins
ND Michigan Wins
Eastern Mich Michigan Wins
SDSU Michigan Wins
Minnesota Michigan Wins
at NU Michigan Wins
at Mich State Michigan Wins
Purdue Michigan Wins
at Iowa Michigan Wins
at Illinois Michigan Wins
Nebraska Michigan Wins
Ohio State Michigan Wins
I like mine better (I know, wishful thinking)
I also predict that Michigan will win the Spring game!!!
Are suffering from Hoke Syndrome.
Hoke springs eternal indeed.
Realistically though - I see us as at least a 8-4. It is a relatively easy schedule compared to what we have lined up in 2012.
No way Michigan wins the spring game.
They have to play Denard.
My prediction is that we open 2012 with a win over Bama not WMU. (that is 2011's schedule not 2012)
Meant to put 2011 and not 2012, good catch, thanks....corrected....
I think this is a worst case (hopefully) with the six wins indicated being locks. ND/MSU/Ill/Iowa are the big question marks. Could go 6-6, could go 10-2....
My prediction? Deinhart is an idiot.
Oh and I'm going for 8-4 or 9-3.. Optimistic, I know.
He probably doens't have a very high opinion of Al Borges and his ability to keep the offense clicking with Denard. Considering how many returning starters we have and the slightly easier schedule, 6-6 would be a huge disappointment. I think that anything less than 8-4 would be a big disappointment. Hoke shouldn't receive a grace period because he's changing the offense. That is 100% voluntary.
Western Mich W
Eastern Mich W
at NU W
at Mich State L
at Iowa W
at Illinois L
Ohio State L
9-3 with a decent bowl for Michigan in Hoke's debut.
Western Mich W
ND L (toss up, but I will say loss. They looked damn good the last part of last season)
Eastern Mich W
at NU W
at Mich State W (toss up, but b/c last toss up lost, this win...makes sense)
at Iowa W
at Illinois W
Ohio State L
10-2...BAM! HOKEAMANIA JUST HAPPENED!
I'm not curbing my expectations because DB may have botched the coaching search. I expect 9-10 wins on what should be another progression for this team. It may be a bit unrealistic but why should we lower our expectations with a coaching change?
See: Last three years.
It is impossible to predict most individual games, so here are my preductions by grouping:
1. As close to definite wins as possible - Western, Eastern, SDSU (I heard they lost their super-awesome coach), Minnesota, Purdue
2. Should wins - NU, Illinois (they lose a ton, we lose nothing)
3. Toss-ups (with reasoning)
-ND - I know we beat them, but we can't expect Dayne Crist to miss half of the game again; also in the beginning of the season, they were adjusting to a new coach, but by the end, they looked a lot better; they are loaded in talent; this is only our second game under a new scheme - scary / very good chance we could lose this one
-MSU - they lose a lot and we return a lot, but it is impossible to predict this rivalry game; Dantonio has had good success against us; even if our offense drops off generally from last season, against MSU, our offense (scoring) was not great last year; defense should improve
-Iowa - our offense against Iowa was not great, so we should perform at least as well, if not better (Junior Denard, actual running back hopefully), our defense has to be better, but still, Iowa is a decent team, well coached and with a lot of upper classmen
4. Hate to say it but probable losses - Nebraska, Ohio State
Totaling this up, if we will ALL of the "definite wins" and even if we lose 1 of the 2 "should wins," we are at 6 wins. If we win 1 of the 3 "toss-ups" we are at 7 wins. To me, unless our transition is as rough as the last one, or unless something goes really wrong (Denard injury, 2 OL injuries), this should be our floor.
Realistically, I think that we win all of the "definite wins" and "should wins" and beat two of the "toss up" teams, giving us 9 wins. This would be a great showing for year 1 under a new coach.
Sorry, but I gotta chime in here. The knock on RR was D and Special Teams. His offense is, for the most part, superb. Now, with Hoke and Mattison righting the D and Special Teams ship, and this will be drastic improvement by the time the Big Ten conference play starts, then it is not far-fetched, AT ALL, to think our overall performance will drastically improve.
I predict we will beat MSU and OSU. Yep. OSU in Ann Arbor.
|Sat., Sep. 3||vs. Western Michigan||Ann Arbor, Mich.||WIN|
|Sat., Sep. 10||vs. Notre Dame||Ann Arbor, Mich.||WIN|
|Sat., Sep. 17||vs. Eastern Michigan||Ann Arbor, Mich.||WIN|
|Sat., Sep. 24||vs. San Diego State||Ann Arbor, Mich.||LOSS|
|Sat., Oct. 1||vs. Minnesota *||Ann Arbor, Mich.||WIN|
|Sat., Oct. 8||at Northwestern *||Evanston, Ill.||LOSS|
|Sat., Oct. 15||at Michigan State *||East Lansing, Mich.||WIN|
|Sat., Oct. 29||vs. Purdue (Homecoming) *||Ann Arbor, Mich.||WIN|
|Sat., Nov. 5||at Iowa *||Iowa City, Iowa||LOSS|
|Sat., Nov. 12||at Illinois *||Champaign, Ill.||TIE|
|Sat., Nov. 19||vs. Nebraska *||Ann Arbor, Mich.||WIN|
|Sat., Nov. 26||vs. Ohio State *||Ann Arbor, Mich.||WIN|
I'm all for not losing...but what's your scenario for a tie? Does it involve time travel to the pre-OT rule?
I'd ask for an explanation about the tie but I'm certain I don't want to know the answer.
Did you just say it isn't far fetched to see a drastic improvement in the team....then predict 1 more win for the season? Did I miss something?
Also, the only reason RichRod got "knocked" for special teams is because of uninformed fans who saw our field goal kickers struggle and thought that was the only aspect of special teams. As a whole, special teams under RichRod wasn't that bad and was arguably the best in the B10 2 years ago
I think the whole inability to field 5 consecutive kicks/punts without a major gaffe plays a bit into the perception.
This is not true...and exactly what I was talking about in my post. Pick out one area of special teams that needs work, point to it and say see, special teams sucked under RichRod.
And watching, unsure what the rule is, a blocked kick lying on the field as the other team scrambles to recover. And having two of the same # jersey on the field at once. These didn't help terribly.
"Also, the only reason RichRod got "knocked" for special teams is because of uninformed fans who saw our field goal kickers struggle and thought that was the only aspect of special teams. As a whole, special teams under RichRod wasn't that bad and was arguably the best in the B10 2 years ago"
Haha, wait...what? You're not really serious are you?
Do you want to actually look at special teams rankings over the last couple years or just post snarky bullshit? I guarantee if Gibbons pans out and lives up to his high school all American status not a single person would have said a word about special teams.
I would have said something, because the only returner I saw the last 3 years who could consistently catch and field a punt was Dileo.
Why are we wasting time on this idiot's prediction? What the hell does he know about either side of the ball for us right now?
And yeah, if we go 6-6, there will be blood...
At this point I don't have much more confidence than the 6-6 he is saying. But this could all change within the next month. Think of our expectations last year before Denard emerged at Spring Ball. If I hear about some defensive players vastly improving my assessment of the team will only improve.
I'm sorry but we can and should beat Lil Bro this year. I know they have a good running game and a decent QB but if our D tackles 40% better this year and gets 2 more sacks a game we should be a pretty good team.
I'm not going to buy into this death D again for another year. We have a lot of young guys who played and WILL get better this year. I'm sure the we have the right coach on D this time and even if he makes us into a ok D we should be a 9 win team.