I thought he burned a bridge or two when he left for ND..
I thought he burned a bridge or two when he left for ND..
He's available right now. You would think that if he were the guy, they would have hired him by now. So I'm thinking Hoke would prefer someone different. But if it were possible to get Austin for DBs (again, he's jobless right now) that would be great for recruiting--especially if we get an NFL guy.
He's available right now. You would think that if he were the guy, they would have hired him by now.
That's what we said about Hoke.
......most important qualification is that it must be anupgrade from GERG. That would actually include about 99% of the human race though.
So, someone that hascoached some good defense in their day, like Mattison, would be a treat here.
reports and online speculation, it appears that the most important qualification is that the DC have Michigan ties. Why get the best DC available (whomever that might be) when someone with UM ties could be persuaded to come back?
Seriously doubt its going to be Shannon!
I really hope for recruiting sake that we have a DC by friday. Otherwise we wont be selling the totally package of types of schemes and how a defensive recruit will be used! I am all in for Teryl Austin!
why would we hire a guy "by now." we have to let these guys breath... to bring out their tannins.. think about the tannins!!
Dienhart on Twitter is kind of scary. A national source gives credibility to a local story. Austin would be the best of the pair and we should all be pleased if he were to come. However until we see a real announcement, this is all rumors trying to fill the empty hole that is our DC position right now.
If Austin were the guy, I feel like he would have been hired by now.
I don't see why Mattison would give up his NFL DC job for a college DC job, but whatever. I hope he does because he seems to know what he's doing and telling kids that he coached Ray Lewis, Suggs, and Ed Reed would probably go a long way in recruiting.
I still think it's going to be a guy we're not discussing, though.
Magnus - my traditional train of thought would tell me to agree. However, after seeing how the head coach serach went, the time it took, and the fact that we got the guy we all "expected" to get, I am not sure I would agree.
With that said, what other names are out there, that we are not mentioning?
Not to be snide, but there are hundreds of other names out there that we're not discussing. I really have no idea. I just think that if it was any of the guys mentioned so frequently (Trgovac, Austin, Mattison), it would have been announced by now.
Your logic is correct, but Hoke was also mentioned early and frequently. And we all see what happened with that!
Fair enough. You are most likey correct on that it would be a done deal if it were one of those names. I was just curious if there were any names being thrown around that I havent heard. I will just sit back, and enjoy the show.
Visit, meet the new coach, etc. Really the only coaches this rules out are those currently coaching in the NFL playoffs.
I still think Hoke is waiting to talk to his brother.
But this sounds very very similar to the head coaching discussion, doesn't it?
Yeah, it does...
The only way it makes sense, IMO, is if Mike Trgovac doesn't want to distract himself from making a run at the Super Bowl with the Packers. I don't really think a DL coach's future would mess up a team's chemistry, but whatev.
I'm sort of in the thinking that we'd have Austin right now if we wanted him. Or they're taking just as long as they did with the HC search to feel out the market, because this is kind of similar to what I thought about Hoke.
Some random PSU fan posted on GBW's free board earlier today that Hoke has asked to talk to Tom Bradley FWIW.
I really can't believe corwin brown isn't being talked to for DC, is he not thought that high of in ann arbor?
The mods at Rivals said that Corwin Brown's name hasn't popped up anywhere...
...except message boards.
He did say some unflattering things about Michigan, but then again...what ex-Michigan coach hasn't burned a bridge in some way or another?
Not particularly. Ron English would run circles around brown as a dc or even db coach. Good player. Questionable coach. Mattison is interesting though. He recmmended home for a job at Michigan I think. That would be a very good hire on many levels. Recruiting. Scheme. Michigan. He knows the Midwest very well and could woo much interest from players with his NFL experience.
That's a little too harsh.
English has failed to make a perennial loser into a winner.
That doesn't mean English himself is a loser.
The worst decision RE ever made was to take the EMU job.
I would absolutely love Mattison. But would he leave Baltimore, which is a pretty sweet gig, to come back to Michigan?
That is all.
if he would come, however, is doubtful.
I'm intrigued by Corwin Brown. But really, just pick someone and get the show on the road.
but I'll have to see their hair before I can accept any decisions.
Mattison was Michigan's DC and left to become Notre Dame's DC. That should disqualify him . He's not a Michigan man.
I had the opportunity to spend some time with the Mattison family a little bit the summer before he took the ND job, and my dad ran into his wife in Ann Arbor shortly after he took it.
It was clear both before and after that there was no one who loved Michigan more than Greg Mattison and the Mattison family. Period. They loved Ann Arbor, they loved being a part of our program, but the Notre Dame offer (both financially and what it would provide for Greg's family) was just too much to pass up. His daughter played sports at ND, and he ended up getting to coach his son at Florida.
In the coaching world, when you're an assistant coach, when you probably don't have too much chance or ambition to jump to being a head coach, you tend to take job offers that are good for your family. Yeah, it was Notre Dame, but it was a lateral move that provided more. So, even though the timing was a bit bad, I don't particularly blame Greg Mattison for going to South Bend, nor do I particularly hold it against him. He's a great coach, and I think he'd be a great fit here again.
All your points about Mattison are duelly noted,HOWEVER Mattison turned his back on Carr and what he was trying to build as a new coach, He left for the same position with one of our rivals. I guess that slogan "Those who stay will be champions" didn't really resonate with him. He left for all those reasons you gave and might have been the right decision for him at the time , but shouldn't be aloud to come back again. Would Bo hire Frieder back?
Negged for being serious while using the term, "Michigan Man."
A bit of sarcasm with using that term Michigan Man. It has been drum beated against RR so I mentioned it about Mattison. RR left his alma mater and a secure HC position at West Virginia because Michigan called.He gave up alot. He wasn't regarded as a "Michigan Man" by some whatever he did and how badly he wanted to stay as coach. How silly some of you Mich fans are. Mattison turned his back on Carr, makes a lateral move to one of our rivals and you give him a pass. Lets be consistant . Mattison is NOT a Michigan Man.
rather see Bedford
I just don't understand why this wasn't predetermined when we hired Hoke. This unfortunately seems like the HC search-many of thought that when RR was let go things were lined up. Obviously not the case, even at the next level down.
Who knows about the validity of this, but this is Ron English on facebook's status...
"Just got a call from Coach Hoke, BIG news to follow....."
Doubtful on its truthyness
That is all.
At least we know its not actually the real Ron English.
The points on this board surrounding these names seems eerily similar to the HC search. 1. If it was really Austin, it would've probably happened already. Thus, it is not Austin (Hoke). 2. Greg isn't going to do it, he's got a better opportunity in the NFL (Harbaugh) or is too old (Miles). Given recent history, it seems as though we should steer away from the obvious reasons for and against a candidate as being the actual reasons why or why not we may land a DC.
Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Shannon is the sexy name that always comes up but is very unlikely (Gruden), Trgovac is the guy in a winning situation who we seem to think might come here because we're MICHIGAN (Patterson)...can't figure out who would be Fitzgerald.
Just get the DC job at Texas? Or am I missing something?
Just saw on Twitter that Ron English just put something up on Facebook about how he just receieved a call from Coach Hoke and that big news is coming out soon. English as the DC again?
Not trying to be the grammar police, but did you forget the i before e rule and decide to do both? i before e except after c, when it's between e's.
He seems to really like being a head coach!