Defensive Coordinator: 2011 and beyond

Submitted by artds on

Who would you guys want to be Michigan's Defensive Coordinator if, for whatever reason, there is a vacancy at the position at some point in the couple years?

icefins26

September 27th, 2010 at 2:12 PM ^

Odd guy?  Have you conversed over coffee?  How can you blame him for the departures?  We have log jams of guys competing for starting jobs -- and they're all young.  The guys who are leaving are getting beat out by younger guys (Turner (Everyone), Vlad (Gordon), Lalota (Black)).  If I'm a recruit, I want to play for a guy who has coached in the NFL and has had success and want to know the position he wants me to play and play it.  I won't want to sign my LOI not knowing who my next coach will be.  I'm not saying Robinson is a defensive genius but I am saying it sure as hell isn't his fault.

BigCat14

September 28th, 2010 at 2:12 PM ^

are getting worse. you supply no factual information only conjecture and epinion (which you are entitled to) for your disdain for GERG and our 'd'. the worst part is that you have now blamed GERG for losing players from the 'd' side of the ball based on RR recruiting them and then not getting to go to dinner at his house enough! seriously!! GO BLUE!!! (should have been in response to gremlin 100% comment)

AMazinBlue

September 27th, 2010 at 2:03 PM ^

I mean it.  Seriously?  We're 4-0,looking better and deeper than last year everywhere except the kicking game (see kicking, not returnng), we haven't had one B10 game yet and you're looking for ideas to fill vacanies that don't even exist?!?

Unless GERG talks of retirement or we have 11 excellent seniors playing together and still giving up 350+ yards per game to UMASS or MAC teams I don't want to hear it.

Hypothetical coaching changes are fine for 'do you think Jim Harbaugh might go to the NFL like his brother next year?'  But let's leave the Michigan coaching staff out of the conversation.

pdgoblue25

September 27th, 2010 at 2:08 PM ^

I thought it was common knowledge that the defense Robinson is running right now is out of necessity and not what he actually wants to run.  They have made the decision that they will play soft zone coverage to protect our extremely inexperienced secondary.  Yes, of course I can't stand watching a 3 man rush all game, but I honestly think there's nothing we can do until the secondary is better, and older.  Instead of a new DC, I'll take the defense Robinson ran at Texas.

CRex

September 27th, 2010 at 2:19 PM ^

If in 1-2 years we're still running this weak rush and corners 15 yards off the WRs, then I'll swing by Ann Arbor Torch and Pitchfork, but GERG gets a free pass for this year.  He has a whole stable of freshman DBs and as long as they improve I'm happy.  

This year it's all about "Less than 35 points game allowed."  Dilithium can put 35 on the boards against the defenses we'll face, so hold them to less than that and we win.  The Lloyd Carr era Defense of QB Death can hopefully rear its head again as our defense gets more playing time.

As for my dream: Lloyd Carr in his prime or the late Jim Johnson

JClay

September 27th, 2010 at 2:15 PM ^

If we were, for some reason, to get a new defensive coordinator, I would love us to steal Bud Foster away from Va Tech. Virutally no chance for thatnto happen though.

CRex

September 27th, 2010 at 2:22 PM ^

Yeah he and Ron English can go grab a burger at Sidetracks in Ypsi and talk about the time they got their worlds rocked by FCS teams.  Pass.  

I know Bud Foster has an impressive body of work and all, but I like to be able to check the "Never Lost to a FCS Team when Ranked" box on the hiring form.  

CRex

September 27th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^

Yeah but they also didn't step up and take the game on their shoulders.  An elite FBS Defense (like Bud Foster is supposed to create) should be capable of forcing some turnovers, grabbing a pick and helping the offense out.  

Maybe it's a mindset thing, but I was coached that if the offense is having an off day the D steps up and sets the tone.  Kind of like how the D did in the Brady Quinn for Heisman Bowl.  

jamiemac

September 27th, 2010 at 2:18 PM ^

Some folks just arent capabe of sitting back and enjoying things while letting the season play out.

I feel so sad for those people, a handful of them are in this thread.

UM2k1

September 27th, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^

I was thinking about it yesterday, and was thinking to myself that maybe the move to the 3-3-5 stack (it is NOT a stack)(yes it is)(No it is NOT...), which GERG has little experience with, is a precursor to a move at DC to Jeff Casteel, who is DC and LB position coach?  Maybe he has figured out Bill Stewart is not a good football coach, and is looking to move?  Not suggesting this should or shouldn't happen, the thought just crossed my head yesterday.

tlh908

September 27th, 2010 at 3:05 PM ^

What if we were to replace the OP of this thread?  Then we wouldn't have to waste time listening to people complain about only being 4-0.  We should easily be 5-0 by now but GERG sucks.....

Grahambino

September 27th, 2010 at 3:42 PM ^

Whoever we get has to be legit at recruiting!!  While coaching is a part of winning you have to have talent and depth, which we severely lack.  Just pray that Mike Martin doesn't go pro!

 

I'd take anyone from Penn State or even, sigh, OSU.  Their defensive units are always strong.  Give me some of that w/ our offense and we're unbeatable in 2011.

His Dudeness

September 27th, 2010 at 5:18 PM ^

GERG most likely loves scrotum at recruiting because he is old enough to have given Charlie Chaplin a hand job, but he is all we have and I love him. His hair speaks for itself. I know, it bought me a fine bourbon last Saturday night.  

decadoug

September 28th, 2010 at 4:21 PM ^

I understand the OP may have been asking a hypothetical question about what if, and not trying to incite an e-riot.  However, right now, lets focus on what we have, why we have it, and enjoy being 4-0 (hopefully 5-0 soon). The folks stating why this isn't all on our DC, that we basically are playing all freshmen in our secondary, and even our upperclassmen are mostly playing like freshmen. Could he do better? I don't know, could you? Granted he's being paid to do better, but give him a chance to do it. Can you imagine if we hadn't given RR a chance to build this offense? I we had fired him last year? Or after his first year as many rabid "fans" were screaming for. Maybe we won't have a great season this year, and maybe that will be our defenses fault. But if we have an offense scoring 40+ PPG will you be screaming for RR's head? If so, I think you're an idiot. Now, if our defense gets worse next year, perhaps then we should have this discussion.

JayZ1817

September 29th, 2010 at 12:18 AM ^

I think Robinson is the right guy for the defense but I really believe the type of defense we run is what raises questions for me. Running a 3-3-5 stack defense in the Big 10 just doesn't make sense to me when you have teams like Iowa, Penn State, and Wisconsin looking to run it down your throat. The 3-3-5 worked well in  the Big East for Rich Rod in the Big East because he didn't have Big 10 offensive lines and runningbacks to defend. I really think a 4-3 defense with Martin, Campbell (Former prized 5 star), RVB, and either Roh or Banks depending on how they want to use their players would be so much better for them in the future against these Big 10 teams. Now I know the DT spot is thin right now for a 4-3 defense but a difference in recruiting could help that. Just an idea thrown out there. Either way, Go Blue.