The defense is surprisingly good

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I must admit I have been critical of Mattison and what seems like really passive coverage schemes this season. After looking at some of the defensive statistics, I realize that although not my personal preference the schemes have been very effective. The numbers show Michigan is #13th nationally in total defense allowing 305 YPG. More surprisingly to me is that Michigan is #27th nationally in scoring defense at 19.4 YPG, which is nothing to be ashamed of but in actuality Michigan is even better than that. Because the NCAA includes all scoring against the defense, the 3 touchdowns allowed by the offense are dragging down the defensive numbers. If you remove those 3 touchdowns that were not scored against the defense, Michigan is only allowing 15.2 points a game, which would rank around #12th nationally. In addition, the defense has only allowed 7 touchdowns in 5 games! To put that in perspective consider that the muchly hyped (deservingly so) MSU defense has given up more touchdowns(8) than Michigan. Not too shabby for a defense playing without its best player.

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/28

FreddieMercuryHayes

October 6th, 2013 at 8:16 PM ^

I think it's still left over from years of the end of the Carr years and the RR years, not just the Akron/UConn games. It like the fan base has just been so conditioned to disappointment, underperforming, and waiting for the 'other shoe to drop'. It'll take years of high level performance for the fan base to not expect everything will turn out poorly.

MGoStrength

October 6th, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^

Our defense seems the be the bend but don't break variety where we only bring pressure in the red zone and on 3rd and long.  But, unfortunately we give up way too many yards on 1st & 2nd down.  Are we running this defense because we have to due to a lack of talent and/or experience or just because it's the best strategy?  In years to come when we are playing predominately 4 &5-star defensive talent like Charlton, Pipkins, Mone, Hand, McCray, Ferns, Ross, Peppers, Wilson, Thomas, and Countess will be more aggressive with an assumed higher talent level or will we still be playing this same style 2 years down the road?

steve sharik

October 6th, 2013 at 8:24 PM ^

but this isn't a good defense.  Good defenses don't let a team without its head coach, a brand new starter at QB, and that just got crushed by Iowa to throw for 66.7% completion and go 8/15 on 3rd down conversions.

Opportunistic? Yes.  Coach who knows how to defend the red zone? Yes.  Good? No.

That said, the reason is b/c we're playing a crap-ton of young guys.  We'll be a good-to-great D, but it'll take some time...maybe good in 2014, great in 2015.

Bobby Boucher

October 6th, 2013 at 8:46 PM ^

The d-line seems to be not so good.  Seems like no one has a problem running through it.  Also, that pass rush is going to be much more important once we get into the heart of the schedule.

Sten Carlson

October 6th, 2013 at 9:01 PM ^

Yet the stats don't support that -- D is 6th in rush yards allowed. The defense is what has kept Michigan undefeated this season thus far. As I said above, they've been into numerous bad spots by the turnover happy offense, and yet they've held teams to FG's repeatedly. I'd be interested to see the stats if the turnovers were half as many, or none at all. The pass rush is troubling, and is directly related to the secondary's performance.

BlueMan80

October 6th, 2013 at 8:50 PM ^

With what he's got. They are young in the secondary, so keeping things inside and in front makes sense. He doesn't have a pure pass rusher other than Jake Ryan. He doesn't have a double team eating, run stuffing tackle. He's got a bunch of good young players that hopefully can get to elite level over time. They had issues with third downs this week. This was the first decent running QB they faced and they got better as the game rolled on. They missed tackles, too. On way play, Desmond Morgan was spying the QB, filled the lane, and missed the tackle. These things can happen.

taistreetsmyhero

October 6th, 2013 at 8:53 PM ^

this season is that we've faced terrible competition and played to such varying degrees of success. There is no reliable performance to turn to and say that we will be able to do that consistently against the meat of our schedule.

Take the ND game:  the defense played bend-don't-break and it worked to an extent. But that strategy only succeeded because the offense could consistently move the ball and score and only had 1 (egregious) TO--something that hasn't been reliable since then.

If you go off the eye test, do you think bend-don't-break will work against Northwestern? Or do you think they'd shred the soft zone, no pass rush? Do you think the defense that was getting juked out of their shoes will be able to put a finger on Miller? Do you think STAEE is gonna STAEE against us? Or will we completely alter our gameplan once Jake Ryan is back--or regardless just to change it up?

In conclusion, there is not much to conclude about our defense other than it's done enough, hasn't been remarkbly good or bad, and hasn't shown anything that merits panic or ease.

alum96

October 6th, 2013 at 8:56 PM ^

We've only played 2 real teams. Let's check back in 5 games.  The defense is not bad, not great but somewhere above average.  Other than Blake only 1 playmaker and he is injured.  Its a decent bend dont break but not a stellar defense and if it played some high power offenses it would take some water on in a serious way - if it holds up against Nebraska, NW and OSU (heck Indiana)  I will change my tune but it is what it is.  I think Mattison's defenses always improve as the season progresses which is a plus  - not so much with Borges.

alum96

October 6th, 2013 at 8:58 PM ^

By the way in total defense (MSU #1)

Wisconsin is #6

Iowa #11

Michigan #13

PSU #18

Ohio St #19

That's 6 of our 12 in the top 20.

So either the Big 10 has entered a golden era of defense, or the MAC and Big 10 offenses sorta suck.  I am pretty sure I can figure out which one it is.

Blue Mike

October 6th, 2013 at 9:02 PM ^

For the record, I think our defense is getting better, but they still aren't generating enough negative plays to be viable against the Northwesterns and Ohios of the world.

But, for those who calim everyone plays terrible teams, so our defense rankings are legit:  our SOS is #108 (via TeamRankings.com) out of 125.  The only worse ranking in the B1G is Minnesota.

So, while everyone plays cupcakes at the beginning of the year, we're playing CUPCAKES to start the year.

Shorty the Bea…

October 6th, 2013 at 9:04 PM ^

However, it is important to note that if we are attributing points against our defense only, and not considering points given up by the offense and bad field position then it is important  to do the same across the board.  Therefore, it is inaccurate to say that by taking away points given up by the offense it would automatically make our defense statistically better than other defenses before measuring it against other defenses under the same conditions.  Gardner isn't the only QB to have thrown pick-six's this year.  In addition, let's call it what it is and say there's been too small a sample size to predict how it will perform in Big Ten play.  Finally, shabby defense or not, all we really want for Christmas is a Big Ten title at the expense of Ohio!

charblue.

October 6th, 2013 at 9:06 PM ^

you have to act the part of a dominant program. I think I was suprised by some of the numbers mentioned about the defense during the broadcast Saturday. 

I think if you've watched enough football over time, you understand that certain times of the game and circumstances impact point totals, momentum, ability and the appearance of control and/ or domination. Teams typically score early on their first or second possession based on a variety of factors. They also frequently score after momentum plays occur, turnovers or great special teams plays that change field position. 

Michigan allowed what seemed like an incredibly frustrating TD to tie the game on the Gophers second possession after scoring quickly following a great defensive play. I mean if you going to discount what the defense does numbers wise against certain teams, then you must credit the fact that on Saturday, it produced two turnovers leading directly to 14 points. 

And the one TD Minnesota scored was its only TD of the day. The fact that the Gophers bled the clock and their resilient qb kept finding ways to convert on third down was disconerting and seems to deny defensive achievement. But if all you're interested in doing is making your team seem more competitive  by running clock wihtout producing any points just to stay close, then what's the point?

Michigan defended 65 plays and they scored 42 points on 52 plays, which means their play efficiency per point was outstanding. 

Minnesota made some plays. And it does have some pretty decent athletes, especially at tight end. If the other team executes, the fact that your team doesn't  pitch a shutout, deosn't mean your necessarily not effective or bad or even not dominant. It just means the other team executed better, which happens in every game. 

The season is a process, you build on it game by game,  and you learn by doing, which explains why the staff treated the preseason in terms of defensive rotations and vanilla  looks and wanted to see how effective the pass rush is. Basically, they  just wanted to see how things are shaping up now. Each team presents a new challenge and matchup issues, and Michigan will not always be suited to dealing with every team's offense and speed. 

A better way of looking at it, is what the defense didn't give up, which was many big plays over 20 yards. It was on the field longer and it stuffed the run game, which is all Minnesota really does well on offense. And they won going away in their conference opener. All is well in my book, save for potential injuries to Pippens and Kalis. 

Perkis-Size Me

October 6th, 2013 at 9:32 PM ^

The defense might be better than we're giving them credit for, but it still does not account for the comically obvious lack of a pass rush. I trust Mattison and the man knows what he's doing. He's got a national championship ring and an NFL resume to prove it. But it is a little unsettling that we're three years into his system and we're just flat out not getting to the QB. Even against inferior teams. When the QBs of Akron and UConn have all day to sit in the pocket and make their reads, that's a problem. I don't care how you slice it.

Maybe we're just too young right now. Maybe our older guys, at the end of the day, just aren't that good. I really don't want to call it a coaching problem because Hoke and Mattison are D-Line specialists. But this is a problem that needs to be addressed. And addressed quickly. As Hoke always says, winning football always starts in the trenches, and if you can't get to the QB, whether its Akron scrubs or Braxton Miller, they will shred you all day.

 

bluewings

October 6th, 2013 at 11:57 PM ^

Minnesota had enough yards and drove the ball.  Minnesota did not score too often but had too many completions and the QB had too many yards rushing

Reader71

October 7th, 2013 at 12:09 AM ^

The defense has not been a problem this season. At all. Akron scored 17 points offensively. UConn scored 14. Minnesota scored 13. Notre Dame scored 23. What are we complaining about, yards? If so, only Akron performed over their season average in Yards Per Play. So, even if these teams are bad, they've been worse against our defense than they usually are. We've had 3 close games (Akron, UConn, ND), but each of those teams was spotted 7 points by our offense. The defense has been good, but this hasn't been surprising. We've been good for the past two seasons. We have a good coordinator. We have a defensive minded head coach. We have some good players. Why would we be surprised? Is it because we get upset at times they don't get off the field on third down in tight games? I think that's it, and that's a pretty bad way to judge a defense. We have metrics hat are much more truthful than our gut feelings.

Reader71

October 7th, 2013 at 1:26 AM ^

Akron passed for 6.3 YPP and ran for 3.6 YPR. Can we agree that our offense was terrible in that game? We passed for 8.3 YPP and ran for 5.5 YPR. That's right, our dreadful offense was actually considerably better than theirs. Of course, we should be better, but these numbers show that our defense was fine. The big problem, the one that hits us emotionally as we watch and leaves a bitter taste in our mouth is they made some big third downs to keep drives going. They were 50%, we were only 30%. But this is an emotional phenomenon. We were actually fine. Especially when you consider the defense allowed 17 points. I have would have loved a shutout, but are we really saying that a performance was terrible when we allowed under 20 points? Also, we came up with an enormous goal line stand to end the game. If that happens against Ohio, that defense is lionized and that stand goes down in history. I know we want to beat Akron more handily, but the defense wasn't the reason we didn't.

EGD

October 7th, 2013 at 1:51 AM ^

Statistically you may be correct, and yes the offense was also bad.  But the defense gave up the lead twice on long scoring drives in the second half, and the goal line stand at the end came after Akron had driven 70+ yards.   

Reader71

October 7th, 2013 at 2:16 AM ^

This is exactly my point. We always contextualize the games as they happen. But we made stops. They scored 17 points offensively. We came up huge at the end. These are good things. Had Akron scored 17 points on their first three drives and Devin had gifted them a pick-six for a 24-0 lead, after which we scored 28 unanswered (same exact outcome, just changing the order of things), wed be talking about how great the defense played after early struggles. We'd be talking about how resilient they were and how they held up when it mattered and gave the offense a chance to win it. In the end, statistics are the truth. I'd love for the D to have not given up the leads, but if our complaints are that the performance did not please us on a play-to-play temporal level, we should have no complaints. We've been fine. That's all I'm saying. We've been fine. And its not surprising at all.

snarling wolverine

October 7th, 2013 at 6:31 AM ^

Holding most teams to 17 points would be a good performance, but Akron is the #148 team in the country per Sagarin.  Central Florida gave up 7 to them and Ohio U. gave up 3.  Moreover, it took two huge redzone stops in the 4th quarter to even hold them to just 17.  We really can't defend that performance.

 

 

Reader71

October 7th, 2013 at 2:52 PM ^

I have defended that performance. I think I've got a compelling case. Mind you, I'm not saying we stifled them, merely that the defense was fine. The offense was the reason that game was close. More specifically, the turnovers that our offense game up was the reason. And who made those huge red zone stops if not our defense. Come on guys. A stop is a stop, no matter how far we are on the edge of our seats at home. The defense made them. Under a lot of pressure. This is a good thing, not a bad one.

Reader71

October 7th, 2013 at 2:22 AM ^

Of course the goal line stand came after a drive. That does nothing to diminish the fact that the defense came up huge. They literally won us the game, and we're complaining. I guess this has just been a very long diatribe advocating he removal of emotion from judgment. I would love nothing more than a defense that gave up few yards and few points. Hell, we might need that to won some games if we don't get better offensively. But the defense just simply has not been this team's problem. In any game. Period.

EGD

October 7th, 2013 at 10:04 AM ^

Look, any way you slice it, the defense did not play well against Akron.  If you use the "eye test," you would have seen that our front four failed to get pressure on their QB the whole game, while our back seven left receivers open all day.  We couldn't get off the field on third downs, and repeatedly failed to get stops when we needed them in the second half.

If you want to go by statistics, we gave up eleven plays of 10+ yards (including four plays for more than 20 yards) and over 400 yards of total offense to one of the worst teams in college football.  Akron also converted 9 of 18 third downs.  Yes, they only scored 24 points, including 7 on a defenstive TD.  But they also missed a FG, and got no points from their final drive (which ended inside the M five yard-line).

And, I don't think it's really true that the defense was more responsible for winning that game than the offense.  The defense gave up the lead twice in the second half--both times the offense got it back.  Even after Gardner's pick-six, Michigan was still ahead.  It wasn't until Akron went on an 11-play, 67-yard TD drive on their next possession that we fell behind--and again, the offense then got the ball and took the lead back.

If our defense had been playing well that day, Akron would never had taken the lead in the second half.  Akron would certainly not have taken the lead back in the fourth quarter.  And they damn well would not have reached our 1 yard-line with a chance to win at the end.   

Reader71

October 7th, 2013 at 2:48 PM ^

We gave up 400 yards, but we did it at a very low clip per play. That means they were dinking and dunking us, which led to long drives and made us worry at home on the couch. But the performance was fine. I'm not saying were a great defense, man. I'm just saying that even with all of the tension and lead changes and so on, our defense was not to blame. The offense was a fucking disaster, giving them 7 points and a short field multiple other times. We turned it over 4 times. The old eyeball test shows that the reason that game was close was because of our awful offense. The offense that the stats show was actually better at moving the ball than Akron's.

EGD

October 7th, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^

Well, I'm not saying "the defense is bad."  I'm saying "the defense played badly against Akron."  As I stated in my reply to your first comment above, I agree with you that the defense has played well in all the other games.  But against Akron I thought the defense played terribly--far worse than they are capable of. 

Both of Akron's offensive TDs came on long drives (67 and 75 yards) and their final drive started at their 25, so those scores were not exactly set up by turnovers.

Anyway, it seems we are going around in circcles now so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about that game. 

getsome

October 7th, 2013 at 11:40 AM ^

not enough ballers on the roster yet, just a bunch of guys who will likely remain competitive in a weak big ten this year but far from excell.  mattison has to play soft keeping everything underneath since he does not have enough athletes to get too aggressive or  stray too much against good teams.  if you watched the osu / nw game (not too mention most sec games as well)  the talent differential bw those teams and UM should be pretty obvious.  guys like shazier and the 9 randoms on OSUs DL are just a tad quicker and more athletic when attacking the qb and closing on the ball.  while far from elite, mattison has some decent athletes and he does the best job possible with his schemes and calls to make it happen.  not his fault if he doesnt have a DL that can consistently get home (unless youre blaming the recruiter, not the coach), and not his fault he sets up perfect calls on 3rd down for morgan and ross to miss tackles on qb or wilson to get turned around in soft zone coverage, etc...  mattison has done an incredible job....cant wait to see his D in future years with athletes like peppers and hopefully hand, etc. unfortunately 2013 team does not have the DL or the overall talent and speed to fully exploit his great schemes and timely calls - i wish it did but im a realist

M-Wolverine

October 7th, 2013 at 12:42 PM ^

But you look at the rankings and they're not that bad. 

Part of the reason is the rules have just made defense tough, and you're not going to get too many 14-7 games anymore. The Broncos scored 51 points yesterday.....and won by 3 points. The horrible offensive/defensive struggle of Iowa-MSU was 26-14. Twenty years ago that would have been 7-3.

Between tv wanting points, not being able to touch receivers or the QB, and the protections necessarily to avoid head hits no one is going to put up '85 or '97 numbers again. It's all relative to other teams playing today.