yes plz
Dee Hart rumors...anyone, TVH?
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:22 PM | 
Whatevs
Whatevs
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:14 AM |
Yes
Yes
I beleive anyone who stops being a fan because the program does something they do not agree with is a fairweather fan..shoot me or "whatrevs" If everyone had you're attitude we would'nt have been filling th Big House for the past 3 years..but i'm happy to say most people are bigger fans of Michigan then they are for or against RR
How can you kill that which has no life
December 3rd, 2010 at 1:05 AM |
Pulling the fairweather card
Pulling the fairweather card
Pulling the fairweather card makes you sound dumb. Being a "fan" doesn't mean you have to support every decision that is made or agree with or go along with or bite your tongue. If Michigan pulled a Bob Jones U and made interracial dating against school policy you can damn bet I'd be a different kind of fan of the school. You start to sound like the people who say "You don't like the way things are? Then leave!" as if decent is unacceptable. The point is there are circumstances to consider. To blindly acquiesce is the sort of mindset that leads to the Stanford Prison Experiment.
Maybe you should dust off your critical thinking skills.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 PM |
wish I COULD help but
wish I COULD help but
I have found myself wondering lately whether I would ever rekindle my love for M football if RichRod were fired.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:11 PM |
You never loved UM football in the first place if that us true.
You never loved UM football in the first place if that us true.
I can say without a doubt that if RR should return I shall cheer as loudly as ever.
I do so because I love the program, not just one aspect of it.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 PM |
out of respect to this community I will not
out of respect to this community I will not
tell you to diddle yourself, friend. But please do me a favor and don't make the stupid assumption that you know about the genuineness of my feelings for ANYTHING, if you can bleeding well help it.
December 2nd, 2010 at 11:06 PM |
I don't know how old you are
I don't know how old you are
But I'm guessing I've loved M football since before you were born. And I'm with MGlobules.
"I call that Communist football. I'm so tired of it. Good, red-blooded Americans snap the ball, hand it to the guy and have a normal run game or pass game."
—Steve Szabo, Michigan linebackers coach, November 2007
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:04 PM |
While I, and many, share your
While I, and many, share your
While I, and many, share your frustrations, I believe you should always be a fan to the Maize and Blue first and the personnel second. Coaches change but the University of Michigan is the constant. And segments of every fan base are plain god awful, ours not excepted.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:17 PM |
What about when the
What about when the
What about when the institution acts like ND? The whole mystique of Michigan is our striving to be the leaders and the best and giving a coach 3 yrs is bush league, even Bo said so.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:07 PM |
Absolute nonsense
Absolute nonsense
If you think that it is unrealistic for a program like Michigan to be very good to excellent in 2-3 years, then you clearly have no idea of what UM brings to the table.
Alabama, UF, OSU, Auburn, Oklahoma, Nebraska...these are just a few teams who became elite within short time frame after the hiring of a new coach.
People act UM is the post-Millen Lions. They were not.
"The Ruhr will not be subjected to a single bomb. If an enemy bomber reaches the Ruhr, my name is not Hermann Göring: you can call me Urban Meyer!"
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:26 PM |
You keep
You keep
trying to compare us to Alabama, Florida and Auburn. These are schools that we should never compare ourselves to. We try to have a good sense of integrity for fucks sake.
I got a 23 and didn't get in. Of course I'm a 5'8 white guy that can't catch herpes at a titty bar. - Toledowolverine
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:08 PM |
Don't give up the tix...
Don't give up the tix...
But I understand your sentiment...fans like us are proving our mettle by showing support...need more of us in our seats on Saturday, not less..
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:12 PM |
I don't think it's a dumb
I don't think it's a dumb
I don't think it's a dumb thing to do. You definitely should give up the tickets. How much do you want for them?
Yes I got him a gift. He had a kidney stone. You piss a rock through your pecker, you deserve more than just a pat on the fucking back.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:30 PM |
lol Red
lol Red
And thanks JT....I know it sounds trivial and childish to think I wouldn't support the program, but is it worth supporting when it acts like this? I lettered three years for a DIII program and all of this DI junk with WIN NOW coaching changes and Cam Newton situations really makes me questions my love for a program like UofM. Gosh, it kills me to say that because I grew up with a Dad who would haul out the speakers on the front porch to blast the Victors every Saturday morning. It's just sports, right?
"Run and armpunt that, homeboy." -Brian 10/22/12
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 PM |
My thoughts
My thoughts
My thought is, if RR gets shown the door after this year, he will not have gotten a fair shot. And this is certainly due in part to our fanbase and local media.
You don't have to look far to see why RR has been treated the way he has. We have the great fortune to support the winningest NCAAF program in existence. Ann Arbor and U of M in particular have a reputation for being of the uppity, better-than-you mentality (for good reason, IMO). We are spoiled and impatient... for better or worse. Sometimes this works in our favor. We expect to win and hold our players and coaches to a high standard. Recruits want to play here and coaches want to coach here for these very reasons.
However, sometimes these things don't work in our favor, like right now. The pressure is a lot to deal with, and furthermore the Detroit media loves to kick us when we're down, which compounds things. It's ugly right now.
What I'm really trying to say is I'm right there with you. Lately I've been contemplating the very same things. All the bandwagon-jumping and impatience amongst our fanbase is aggravating and depressing. But the longer I've thought about it, the more I realize it comes with the territory of being a Michigan fan. Personally I hope RR gets a fair shake, but if Harbaugh or someone else gets brought in, they'll have my full support. Hope this helps.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:56 PM |
True True
True True
I just feel like being stubborn and selfish myself by not supporting the program if RR is canned in the next 30 days.(again, while I support RR it could be Chip Kelly on the hot seat in this situation and I would still be frustrated)
I'm sure at the end of the day my love runs too deep to turn my back but the last 3 months has really made me question things.
"Run and armpunt that, homeboy." -Brian 10/22/12
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:16 PM |
Completely agree. The last 30
Completely agree. The last 30
Completely agree. The last 30 days has made me question whether I want to be a part of a fanbase that is so fucking stupid they are making things worse for the team. If this rumor is true (which I don't think it is) the reason is because of the fanbase. Whiney, entitled, mostly very stupid when it comes to football; this fanbase is by far the most irritating and embarrassingly uninformed of any fanbase I have ever seen. It is an embarrassment. Simple as that. I am about to be an alumni. This fanbase is an embarrassment.
Direct quote from AVery Walls: " lol the entire Michigan fan base will add u know and interrigate u from now on"
FWIW that was in response to a girl he knows saying he was supposed to be a Gamecock...
Embarrassing. Plain and simple. You can't even support your own fucking coach. You drive away recruits. Embarrassing.
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 AM |
I hear what you guys are
I hear what you guys are
I hear what you guys are saying, but is giving up on Your Team and Your School (or contemplating it on a blog) because of stupid fans any less dumb or less damaging to recruiting than complaining about the coach?
Hold the rope. Michigan will persevere.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:59 PM |
Um the bowl game is most
Um the bowl game is most
Um the bowl game is most likely in late December, LOI day is sometime in February. Don't think Brandon is going to move up his timetable for a flighty 17 year old
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:53 PM |
He's enrolling early
He's enrolling early
dumb ass.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 PM |
doesn't make D any less
doesn't make D any less
doesn't make D any less flighty, don't want the inmates running the asylum or do we?
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 PM |
At this point, it doesn't
At this point, it doesn't
At this point, it doesn't really matter what Brandon does. If other schools smell blood in the water, that's all they need to pry these kids away. The worst-case scenario, and one that I am starting to believe might happen, is Brandon drag this out for a couple of weeks, let RR lose some recruits, play the bowl game and then fire RR after he has (or thinks he has) Harbaugh signed up. At that point, you'll see some kids leave while others come with Harbaugh, and we'll begin another 2-3 year odyssey of "just give JH time - he needs to get his guys in before we'll win." Oh happy day!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:02 PM |
Worst case would be that
Worst case would be that
Worst case would be that except Harbaugh throws DB the bird.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:20 PM |
Oh great, now I just threw up
Oh great, now I just threw up
Oh great, now I just threw up in my mouth. I hope you're happy!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:00 PM |
I am currently typing this
I am currently typing this
I am currently typing this with one hand, as I am holding a paper bag to my mouth and nose with the other. That's not usually the reason I type things with one hand, but it is in this case.
Just thought you should know.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 PM |
Dee Hart will be announcing
Dee Hart will be announcing
Dee Hart will be announcing that HaHa is committing to Michigan!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:09 PM |
is your avatar Waffles?
is your avatar Waffles?
mmmmm.....eating waffles
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 PM |
joke not funny no more
joke not funny no more
you changed your avatar...(no offense...i am slap happy right now)
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 PM |
I had waffles tonight
I had waffles tonight
Then proceeded to peel them and the syrup out of my 2 year olds hair.
"Run and armpunt that, homeboy." -Brian 10/22/12
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 PM |
For some reason, I'm not
For some reason, I'm not
For some reason, I'm not panicked.
As much as I like Demetrius Hart, we have a handful of other running backs. If Fitzgerald Toussaint can stay healthy, he'll be good. We also have Hayes, potentially Rawls, and potentially Nealy in the mix.
Hart is a luxury this year. So whether he ends up at Alabama or not, this would not be the worst thing that could happen.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 PM |
Losing Hart on the micro
Losing Hart on the micro
Losing Hart on the micro level isn't that big of a deal, but when a top recruit (potentially) leaves a program, that sends a signal to other guys on the radar that there is something off with the school, and that has a ripple effect that can't really be offset.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:03 PM |
Great point, RB is not a
Great point, RB is not a
Great point, RB is not a position of need, its a luxury. If we miss out on all of the defensive players on the board we should begin to worry. There is a long way until signing day. Over the next month their is going to be plenty of turmoil.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:05 PM |
NEEDZ MOAR
NEEDZ MOAR
NEEDZ MOAR PAAAAAANIIIIIIXXXXXXX!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:06 PM |
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Your post is full of logic and win. So no need to freak out? Surely you can't be serious. One rumor (so far) and look at the emo pouring out like some kind of anti-ninja turtle ooze.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:08 PM |
I want to be
I want to be
positive, but geez man, Toussaint hasn't played an entire game in his career yet. Let's not lie, this one really hurts.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:13 PM |
this one really hurts
Nah.
this one really hurts
Nah.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:15 PM |
There are other Dr. Phillips
There are other Dr. Phillips
targets. Not that they can't make decisions independant of eachother, but it helps to have a recruit on the roster to foster that pipeline.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:21 PM |
But...he's not just a RB...
But...he's not just a RB...
He's the #17 ranked guy according to rivals and is up for the All-American player of the year! This dude is a game changer! This would be a massive loss...
'Cats comin' for y'all
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:25 PM |
Our offense is good. I'm not
Our offense is good. I'm not
Our offense is good. I'm not worried about that side of the ball. I'm not saying Hart isn't a very good player, but there's no offensive recruit who's a "must get" this year.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:28 PM |
I dunno
I dunno
I dunno, this offense is lacking a game changer at running back. The #1 all purpose back in the nation could certainly help that.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:33 PM |
And yet with a bad defense
And yet with a bad defense
And yet with a bad defense that couldn't get the ball back, and a first-time sophomore starting quarterback, we still had a very effective offense. And essentially everyone returns except Schilling (and Dorrestein, who's not that much better than Huyge, who returns). Vincent Smith will be stronger after his ACL recovers further, Toussaint will hopefully be healthy, Shaw will be back, etc.
Yes, he's a game changer. But it's not worth fretting about if he decommits.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 PM |
Agree there
Agree there
Agree that I don't understand the "OMG Defcon 0 the world is ending."
Just sucks is all. Was really looking forward to seeing him in the wings.
Hopefully Rawls gets his grades up. Hayes + Rawls could be a very nice RB combo going forward.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:35 PM |
Agreed.
It doesn't make
Agreed.
It doesn't make
Agreed.
It doesn't make sense to say "our offense is fine, we don't have to worry about that anymore", and I'm glad the coaches don't think that either. The better our offense is the less stress we put on our rebuilding defense. We certainly haven't hit our offensive plateau.
Obviously not every top high school player pans out, but Dee is exciting as hell, and we have ALL been pining for a game-changing tailback. It does make a difference.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 PM |
I'm not saying we don't need
I'm not saying we don't need
I'm not saying we don't need to recruit for offense. I'm just saying that the offense is good enough that no single recruit is worth being whipped into a frenzy about.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:50 PM |
@Magnus...
@Magnus...
Sometimes I don't agree with Magnus but on this point he is correct. Losing an elite running back is problematic but I'll take my chances with Thomas Rawls (qualify my friend) and Justice Hayes with our friend Stephen Hopkins to deliver the hammer for the next three years.
Give me some 4 star/5 star defensive back decommits (I suppose we'd need the commits first...) and then I might freak out.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:19 PM |
I agree with this, especially
I agree with this, especially
I agree with this, especially on the offensive side of the ball as you are saying. Having said that, I do not like how Brandon is handling this thing. He literally could not cast more doubt on the situation. If you are going to fire RR, do it. If you want to have Harbaugh locked up, offer him the job and say it's one time deal, take it or leave it. If it is that important to him, he will leave Standford when he accepts it. Maybe the bowl game will truly determine RR's fate, I don't know but that seems awfully unfair to base things off one game when you have a three year sample size. So right now, he is saying he will look at everything. If recruiting is one thing he is looking at, he is undoubtedly hurting this class. This opinion was not brought on by this situation, I thought this right away. I just don't see how holding off helps us. In every way it looks like it hurts.
December 2nd, 2010 at 10:32 PM |
I do agree
I do agree
that no offensive recruit is a "must get" this year and this is no reason to panic, but I'm still not gonna sugarcoat it that I'm not upset about potentially losing a borderline 5 star RB.
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December 2nd, 2010 at 9:36 PM |
I'm with you to an extent,
I'm with you to an extent,
I'm with you to an extent, but there were a number of instances this year when having a gamebreaking RB would have really helped. And for all the talk of him being a "luxury", UM should be able to get the top RBs in the country if they want them. Elite talent may be a luxury, but it shouldn't be that strange at top-notch schools.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:24 PM |
Magnus = voice of
Magnus = voice of
Magnus = voice of reason.
Thanks man.
Let's hope this is just what it is, a rumor.
December 2nd, 2010 at 9:41 PM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
I tried to give reason for my reasoning and if you think I am fairweather than so be it.
"Run and armpunt that, homeboy." -Brian 10/22/12