It doesn't feel good
FWIW. Michigan doesn't seem inclined to get re-involved.
It doesn't feel good
Maybe this is just...you know... a rumor.
Nope, it's already on the internet. You must be mistaken.
Go up about 20 spots in the rankings? I thought Dee wanted to study biz.
WTF?!?! Saban cannot snake oil the snaker oiler's recruits... Impossible.
Maybe the staff already knew and that's why a scholarship was given to Hayes?
Justice a while ago.
Not being the total center of attention. Good luck at Auburn when it goes on super double die now probation.
The fucking rumor is Alabama, not Auburn.
On his facebook he asks an Auburn fan what time the game is on. Who knows? I think i am gonna only tune into commitments on National Signing Day. Too many headaches and emotions over these kind of events.
Bad-mouthing an 18-year old kid on the internet? You stay classy, San Diego.
What happens to that offer after a player verbals to another school? Would UM have had to honor their scholarship offer?
Poster is usually pretty good and not a goof. Someone else posted earlier on scout about hearing from Dee that he was switching to Bama. But they both said in posts that maybe Dee was going to switch back at the Army game. Cross your balls folks....
Can't... they haven't descended back down from my stomach yet.
RIP Leslie Nielson
Shouldn't be surprised, his original commitment was contingent on RR being the coach. That said it isn't official yet, things can change quickly in recruiting.
You can probably put Sousa in a similar place as if I remember correctly, his decision had a lot to do with RR's offense. It should be clear over the next few weeks who is committed to the school and who is committed to the coach.
Uh, it was actually the opposite. Dee made very clear when he committed that a coaching change wouldn't perturb him.
And you believed that?
this means he knows what he's talking aboot.
"I liked Michigan either way and if [Coach Rodriguez] were to leave it wouldn't affect me because I think I can play in any offensive system. So it really wasn't my concern. That being said I wanted to make sure everything came together. He's winning ball games right now and the future looks good so it's coming together."
For him not to be concerned about it, its odd he goes out of his way to address it, and refer to how good the future looked. Do you think this is the good looking future he saw back then? The whole reason this well established UM lock didn't commit was because of the coaching situation since last winter. If it wasn't an issue, why is he supposedly committing to bama tomorrow?
You can interpret that however you want..he say right there it would not affect him. I know the internet say he his decommitting..and the internet is always right. I mean RR was fired on Monday and ND ruturned to glory this year right? Oh..well we can't take Dee at his word, so even if he does change his committment I guess I have no reason to beleive him.. Irish says he doesn't always mean what he says, so no matter what he says I will assume he is actualy coming to UM
He's directly contradicting what you said above, but feel free and try and spin it in such a way that his words don't mean what they say by reading his mind or whatever. If there's a resident expert at fear of losing commits amid coaching changes, it'd be you.
alright I am entirely wrong,
so why is he supposed to be deciding to commit to alabama tomorrow then?
You're wrong about having any idea, one way or the other, what his original commitment was contingent upon. You said above it was contingent upon Rodriguez being coach. He's the coach. You offered a quote where he said it doesn't matter and suggested 1) he was talking about it just because it happened to cross his mind, although I'm sure it's in response to a question and 2) that it supported your previous comment, which it did not.
So, you are wrong. Don't pretend like you have any idea why he may or may not be switching. You're speculating which is fine. Just don't state it as fact or pretend that you were somehow right with your comments two posts ago.
No I am pretty sure you want me to be wrong
Why are people blaming Brandon for this? I mean the only big thing he will be deciding in the next few weeks is whether RR is going to be the coach at UM. They must be crazy to think that way. And why would one of the top 15 players in the country be all that worried about who is going to coach them for the next 4 years of their life, its only the biggest decision of his life.
Lets totally disregard all that, what is that worth? Probably just throw in how long it took him to commit, he was just a UM lock since last year at this time. That spring/summer visit he made with his mom so she would be ok with the coaches; amid the ncaa crap and the coaches job security before the season started, obviously indicators of nothing.
We could look at what has changed at UM since he made those quotes on Oct 12, but what would that really.......oh 2 of 6 well no that can't have anything to do with it. So that all just reflects on RR's coaching status but it can't mean anything
Just spit balling here, is Hart an EE? With Brandon not deciding on RR till after the bowl game do you think that has anything to do with his decision? Lol, what am I asking that for it was just an idea I had.
People are blaming Brandon because part of what is killing recruiting is all the uncertainty about RR's job status, and it would be nice if he would make a statement supporting the head coach. & if you read Dee Hart's quote, he says "I liked Michigan either way and if [Coach Rodriguez] were to leave it wouldn't affect me because I think I can play in any offensive system. So it really wasn't my concern." It sucks that it souns like he's decommiting tomorrow but pretending like you actually know why is idiotic. Now please go back to your favorite ND board where your team can't beat Michigan and hasn't been relevant since 1993. Thanks.
Please go videotape ND practice from a 75 foot lift during a violent windstorm.
Edit:(meant as a direct response to Irish)
By this point, ND has successfully swept it under the rug.
It's fair game.
He's having a fair conversation and you bring up a totally unrelated death of a student at his school? That is fathoms below cool.
Dee Hart wants to enroll in school in January. We won't be able to tell him who his head coach will be until after that. Irish is right: Hart's statement on Michigan regardless of who's the coach isn't as cut-and-dry as we were making it out to be.
It's not so much that I disagree with what Irish is saying. It's just that he always seems to show up with a couple of smug comments in threads like this one.
Did he "go out of his way to address it" or did some journalist just ask him? They're more obsessed with a potential coaching change than MLive commenters, and it's probably the first question asked of every recruit at this point. That said, anybody who thinks a potential coaching/system change won't influence a recruit is being naive. What's Dee supposed to say? 'Uh, yeah, if RR is gone, so am I.' May as well keep it bland and avoid controversy than become the Jimmy Chitwood of Michigan football, saving the coach at an angry town hall meeting.
that he feels he can play in any system regardless of the coach
Come on DB. Announce that you're going to keep RR or fire him by the end of the week. This is going to hurt our recruiting.
I would like to address the theory that all DB has to do is hold a press conference and everything is hunky-dory and Michigan can go forth and haul in a top 5 recruiting class.
Unfortunately, thats not the case. Announcing a press conference just makes DB look weak by changing his course of action to pander to the mob. And stating that RRod will be back next year won't stop the negative recruiting, because it will look like he only has one more chance, and other coaches will call it a lame duck situation. Recruits want a coach that will be there for all 4-5 years.
I don't think RRod has gotten a fair shake, but unfortunately this is the situation that the program is in. DB has been upfront with the process he will employ, I think he should stick to it.
I don't necessarily agree with they way Brandon is conducting this, but he has said from the beginning of the year that this is how it would play out, even back when we were starting the season 5-0. Can't fault him for staying true to his word.
has suffered its first casualty.
No, no, I'm cool...NO I'M NOT, SOMEONE FIRE UP THE TOM LIGHT!!!
Maybe I should hold off on my Cam Newton Rule post until the air is clear. Perhaps anything we say here in a negative light just pings right back at us.
These kinds of rumors are gonna kill us. Why is it so hard to focus on the bowl game?
This is a direct side effect of all the crap talkin about RR. Good work folks.....keep calling yourselves fans all you who are jonesin' because 7-5 is not good enough.
Question: I have two season tix that I share with a friend.(we split the games) I told him that if the fanbase drives RR out of town this year I am giving my tix up. Is this a dumb thing to do and am I really not a true fan? Serious question. I am just so fed up with this fanbase. Spoiled, unrealistic idiots. Really, someone help me deal with this.
don't give up the tix's, you are chasing windmills, all other fan bases are just as dumb.
It's not about love for RR, its about being patient with a coach. A coach NEEDS four years. This attitude of "what have you done for me lately" is sickening. I love UofM when Bo was coach and when Mo was coach and when Lloyd was coach and as RR is coach. I might try to love UofM when __________ is the next coach but I am old enough now to understand that some things are worth standing for and if the AD and fanbase drive RR out after not allowing him to get a full class through......I might just be stubborn enough to say I'm done.
But defensively there has been no
improvement in three years.There is no evidence to suggest that the current staff can alter that.
At some point you have to call a spade a spade.
broken record, broken record, broken record, broken record, broken record, broken record
But coming from you after this week....really?
I can respect that.
This shit is killing me too, fucking guys like dahblue and his ilk prattling on incessantly about Rodriguez have fueled this MSM dog-kicking-fest that has brought us here. Results matter, obviously, but be fair to yourselves people.
with a 15-21 record 6-18 in the bigten is cause enough for you to be done..then goodbye. It would be torture for me to waste another year with a coach who I dont beleive will ever succeed here..but nothing will ever get me to be "done" with this program. I don't care if Mat Millen became out next AD I would sit through it again. But hey, dont let me stop you from being a fairweather fan...I would prefer to weed them out now anyway. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.