i didnt mean it like that. just saying it seems like the board is in a downward spiral
FWIW. Michigan doesn't seem inclined to get re-involved.
i didnt mean it like that. just saying it seems like the board is in a downward spiral
The board is in a downward spiral for banning shit posters? Besides, TheGhostofYost is already back as TheGhostofWoody, less than 24 hours after getting the ban hammer. I'm going to assume he hasn't experienced some great personal revelation or epiphany over that period of time, and will quickly resort back to being a shit poster again.
Has anyone really been banned though? I mean GhostofYost, this OP, and people in the Beckmann thread just lost their points, and I wouldn't call that getting banned.
Edit: Nevermind, I guess Ghost did get banned
wolverine devotee too
I welcome the banhammer. It's been severely underutilized of late. Too many troll accounts have been allowed to persist and shit all over the board.
I know that this isn't exact the topic here, but have we considered an OT sidebar, Iike we have for diaries?
That way we can still have fun OT stuff without having to worry about people yelling that it is too OT? For things like-- moving to X, where you'll I live? Or hey I am going to my first game, where should I eat?
I think it's been discussed before, and it all comes down to Moderation. As of now there's only 2-3 mods on staff (justingoblue, LSAClassof2000, and occasionally Zone Left). They're all volunteers, and if we add in an OT forum, that means either more work for them, or finding new moderators for the OT stuff
But if it's an OT forum, they don't have to pay as much attention to it. Or they can let the rest of us moderate it and report back to them if there are legit issues.
I actually like a lot of the OT stuff on this site. It gives me a glimpse into stuff outside my narrow little focus on Michigan sports. Since I spend a lot of time here, I don't spend a lot of time elsewhere. The OT's let some light in under my rock.
I'd be up for that
It would be too tempting for people who are bored, drunk, high, depressed, or dumb asses to fill it up. Not that it would ever get as bad as RCMB, but being allowed to post on non-sports topics is part of the problem over there (admittedly, there are other, more serious problems as well). Over half of the new threads on RCMB are locked today. The dumbassery is especially strong there today.
Seth, I think you may have inadvertantly found the absolute best way to get everyone on this site to go to Deadspin and read the article. Why not just keep it simple and take down the thread instead?
Been down that road before (like every time Ace Williams gets an internet connection). Someone else just posts the thing. We made it two days with everyone realizing it was best to ignore it. Honestly, people who are so curious they have to go look it up are going to find out and look it up eventually. I had to go read it to know what it was I was banning but if I hadn't I would be among those who went and looked it up as well. Most people however I think are looking for some triage when someone posts a link to something, and for them usually "I highly recommend skipping this" is enough.
I move for evry poster that gets sent to Bolivia have their user name changed to [Redacted] until their time is up in Bolivia.
Wait so Seth is Anonymous Coward?
That's a default setting for a post created without an author, which was possible in the beta version.
Understood. Thanks for the clarification.
with the Forbidden Closet of Mystery?
One of the employees outed by Deadspin in their search of ESPN gossip in the aftermath of being lied to about the [redacted] affair was a Michigan alumnus who was let go after his contract expired. The Michigan alum went on to take a job at CBS Sports and was just promoted to President this week, replacing Sean McManus:
I, like many others, couldn't take the suspense and went and dug up the original on Deadspin. What MGoPostingPolicy was broken? I'm just curious so that I don't make the same mistake in the future
Hmmm so it is off limits to bash the type of male chauvinist behavior allegedly rampant at ESPN because the Company's job is to "explain sports"? Or even to link to an article exposing the same? Sorry, but that is bullshit. The attitudes and bias of the Mickey Mouse of Sports is relevant to their coverage of sports news, and more specifically the hopelessly flawed way they cover the sports world.
I fail to see how this informs us as to the bias and attitudes of ESPN reporters to such a degree that it necessitates a major intrusion into the private lives of the same. I mean, hey, I could go look up any poster on this site, find them on Facebook, and start calling their friends and employers and other associates, and then publish the dirtiest stuff I could find so we could gain a better understanding of where that poster is coming from when they inform us of their opinions on this year's offensive line. But the relevency is tiny next to the massive embarassment I'd be setting that reader up for. Deadspin didn't target ESPN to perform a public service; they did it because exposing the sex lives of famous people is titillating.
these sports guys don't just discuss sports. They dissect players lives as well. And we read all about it. So why are the guys at Espn not not allowed to have their lives looked at and dissected. I see a double standard here.
Anchor's are not athletes or coaches. Their personal lives do not affect the outcome of sports related decisions (FA signings, player committments, etc.) nor do their potential firings or misdeeds affect a program's/franchises (unlike Petrino for example) on field record. Their personal lives aren't relevant. There are plenty of other places someone can go to discuss that stuff if they wish.
that's not the point. Please tell me how an athlete cheating on his wife affected his play? But it still gets reported. JR Smith being in the clubs is frequently reported as possible reason why he shot poorly in playoffs. My point is media types go soft or hard on certain life decisions made by athletes or coaches based on their on personal experiences. I think people just don't like deadspin. I see thinks posted all the time on this board thats purpose is to expose either a coach or player especially if it's a rival. Anchors are public figures like athletes and coaches. What's good for one is good for another.
Athletes cheating on their wives are not reported very often. And even if someone reports on an athlete's life differently if he or she had an affair themselves (something I think unproven), this story is about a low-level production assistant. It simply doesn't merit anyone's time here (or anywhere).
As for some plot against Deadspin here, I don't see it, and wouldn't care if it existed.
If this had been about an intern in the ND or OSU athletic department sleeping with a higher profile member of the athletic department (not a coach) and that person was doing so by cheating on their significant other this board would be all over it.
not the same. if an intern at ND cheated on their "significant other" with someone who was not their boss, do you think the board would be all over it?
As long as you didn't get "all over it" here, I wouldn't care.
That whole Tiger Woods thing. ESPN was very understanding in that case.
of Deadspin writers? Perhaps someone should.
I don't see the big deal.
Me neither. Again I just wish I knew what the problem was so I don't fall into the same trap down the road
What struck me were the statements from ESPN employees along the lines of "that is just the culture here," etc.
Now, I am not saying that the accused in that story is guilty of anything other than an (admitted) indiscretion, all that remains to be seen. In fact, I too think that the coverage is sensationalized, but there are enough facts in that article that are presented fairly enough that the reader can draw his or her own conclusions about the merits of the underlying suit (or lack thereof?). But what Deadspin really hits is the overall meathead culture of ESPN, the same boorish culture which has been detailed in a slew of historic Deadspin posts (texting dick picks, slanted coverage of the Leach/TTech story, etc.).
ESPN has such clout in the sports world it is not only fair, but right, to scrutinize it. And what media outlet is going to question this bias, if not independent blogs?
Goddamit. I don't have my laptop for 24 hours and I miss all of this. And what happened to Ghost of Yost?
Lets just say he got a little hard up for attention last night.
lol, i see what you did
...and i sit in silence...
Really? Trolling?! Holy hell look at half the posts on here! Now this is redic
This is probably the biggest moderating overreaction I've ever seen on this site.
I found the article in question, and I was reading it just flabbergasted that such a boring article would cause such an overraction. Unless I found the wrong one, it was all old news, and from the redacteds all over the place here, I figured it couldn't be anyone less than like TomVH, and Deadspin was ruining the marriage of one of our own. Maybe I just don't follow the sport in question enough to understand.
Kinda thought something funny would lighten the mood. apparently every single non-trolling thing i write is going to be hit this way
Internet's gonna internet. I don't know if I can be any clearer that I still respect you and would appreciate you sticking around despite posting that article. Just keep carrying yourself high and ignore the negging.
You lambasted him and scolded him like a child, making a pile-on appear mod approved/sanctioned rather than just deleting the content
Seriously? I mean, I know it's the offseason and all, but WTF?
Agree with all those stating that this is an absurd moderator overreaction. The Steve Phillips story was huge news when it broke years ago, whatever Seth's opinions as to its newsworthiness may be. Deadspin, among other things, engages in media criticism, and is retroactively assessing the hype surrounding that story given the passage of time and in light of current information. They are not revealing any heretofore hidden personal information -- the news of Phillips' affair was all over the media years ago.
If you don't think it's worthy of discussion on this board, fine, shut down the thread. But to say that this is "an article of the kind that makes people with functional consciouses hate Deadspin" and "the purpose of the article is to cash in on the pain they can cause in their subjects' lives" is hysterical pearl clutching, and is obviously based more on preexisting dislike of deadspin than anything in the article itself. And to accuse a poster of a "gross lapse in moral judgment" for linking to this article is offensive. Beware the next person who makes an innocent joke about Tiger Woods' affairs, you'll be denounced as a heathen.
Take it up with Brian then. For my part I don't see the difference between a guy on TV and a guy not on TV when it comes privacy issues. Did my biases color my response? I'm sure they did. Deadspin has pulled this shit before--remember when the exposed the sex life of some woman who just works at ESPN?--and then this created a storm that helped shape how people characterize blogs.
Also I'm a human with my own biases. Certain things bother me more than others, and one of those things is when peoples' private lives are exposed and held up for public ridicule by a tabloid merchant posing as a journalist. Remember that show To Catch a Predator? I wanted to boil everyone involved with that show alive. I thought it was the most disgusting thing Western culture has ever produced. And that was targeting friggin' child rapists. This "investigation" targeted just TV personalities, and not just the one you named. I don't know if Deadspin has changed the article since or something, but the one I read was very clearly something I would expect any MGoReader to immediately say "this is an awful miscarriage of journalism," not post it on the site.