...and hoping I'm wrong.
Day 4 (Round of 32) NCAA Evening/Night Thread
Do you guys root for the underdog or for Coach Fisher?
all the way...I became a big Sherwood Brown fan on Friday. Loved his enthusiasm and how he wasn't intimidated by the Georgetown players at the end of the game when things got contentious
He's very Denard-like.
FGCU underdog, easily.
As much as I'd like to root for Coach Fisher, I've gotta root for the underdog here.
KU it's going to be. Hoody hoo, that's going to be a tough game. Oh well, all the more to add to an impressive Elite 8/Final 4 run.
I think we're going to need Jordan Morgan to return to form and helping out in this upcoming game, not that I'm not stoked about McGary these past few games and for the future. His experience at the least will be beneficial in this HUGE game. (Here's to Jordan Morgan getting that head right and shedding any ankle issues still lingering.)
Welp, gonna be a tough one Friday. Go Illinois.
Hollins on fire all of a sudden for Gophers. Lead cut in half in four minutes.
they're undersized but man, can they fly. I kind of understand why Miami lost to them earlier this season.
I like the "Round of 32" name a lot better than "Third Round," which just confuses everybody. We should always call it that (and call the previous one the "Round of 64").
I refuse to use First, Second and Third Round...
Opening Round, Round of 64, Round of 32, Sweet 16, Elite 8, Final 4, Championship 2
the "THIRDie-Two Round" (32-round)
and the 64 Reasons (not to work) Round
Absurdly pro-Gator bias in the officiating in Austin. Has been all game.
Wow has Steve Fisher aged. He looks like Orville Redenbacher.
It's been like two decades, so...
Yeah, have you looked at yourself in the mirror? I don't think your mirror looks like it did 20 years ago.
It seems particularly dramatic in Fisher's case, though. Some of these other guys hardly seem to have changed at all. Coach K has looked about the same forever.
Any idea on the time for Friday ?
Here come the Gophers? At least they are showing some life.
They just all go to FGCU.
A few fun stats in this one:
Florida Gulf Coast sporting a 64.6% effective field goal percentage. San Diego State is sitting at 48.3%. What has made a difference here - the Aztecs have been to the stripe twice as often as the Eagles, and FGCU has a few more turnovers (8, as opposed to 5 for SDSU).
There ae not egregious amounts of rebounding in this game, so there isn't much data, but the Aztecs are leading this battle on offense by a significant margin.
Refs are so inconsistent. They can ruin a good game.
Gophers on a nice run and have the Florida front line in foul trouble, so naturally Tubby takes everyone who can handle the ball or make a post feed out of the game.
Both teams were in the bonus with 11 minutes to go.
A Florida win would be good for by bracket but I can't root against Minnesota and Tubby (mainly because they lose to us - a lot).
Is Brando play by play or color? Jeez, just call the game.
Minny ice cold.
Your team is down 10-12 points, and not scoring. Put your best and hottest scorer back in the game! You won't win with him next to you with 4 fouls any more than you won't win with him sitting next to you with 5 fouls.
Unfortunately that makes every coach terrible. Except kind of Amaker actually. He kept that one guy in there in the 1st half when they needed him to keep them humming.
but when your win % is under 5%, it might be time to roll the dice a little.
I think this is a similar situation to going for it on fourth down when it is statistically the right move. The coaches feel that they will be blamed more if they have their player foul out early or fail to convert on the 4th down. They just kick the can down the road by doing what the 'conventional wisdom' tells them even if that is not what would be best for their team.
i picked minny over florida in my bracket..it was a stretch but it seems it was not meant to be.
I just came back from the near future.
"I thought it'd be better to throw away the game by taking out the one guy we needed to continue the comeback rather than have him foul out in a tied game with 45 seconds left." - Tubby in the postgame presser
Funny: Mr. Yost posts Morning/Early game thread. In said thread, Mr. Yost posts night game schedule for whoever is going to post the Evening/Night game thread to access quickly. Then Mr. Yost posts Evening/night thread.
You set yourself up for success on that one.
Also, I'm just finding a bit of irony, here. If this comes off as dickish, it's because it is, not because I meant for it to be.
I didn't think I'd be posting tonight, but we got 8" of snow and I'm not doing shit.
I thought about editing the old thread when I copied and pasted the schedule, but that was far too much work for something I really didn't care about.
No problem here either. Like I said, no ill will. Morning commute is going to be rough for most of us, tomorrow, I think. Yesterday I was outside playing basketball with no shirt and tomorrow I'll probably be wearing a wool coat.
FGCU is fun to watch in transition.
FGCU has really come to play in this tournament.
Wow. What just happened. I turned this off for 10 minutes to get some work done and FGCU is up 20? Crazy turnovers? Bunch of 3s?
today. They're outplaying SDSU. They're getting it done defensively and offensively.
FGCU has so much swag it's unbelievable.
Back in 2009: UF 94 - FGCU 60.
Florida Gulf Coast has revenge on its mind...
Amazing to think that we could potentially face a 15-seed if we beat Kansas.
3 seed getting a 16, Ohio State has no one in their whole region, and we get Kansas.
Damn Penn State.
thought when they played them. FGCU outplayed both of them badly.
And Georgetown is the reigning king of choking and underachieving in the Tournament. Florida has a full week to prepare for them, won't take them lightly, and gets to spend their time hearing from all the national AND locl media talking about how swell Fl GC is. The carriage turns back to a pumpkin most of the time in weekend two.
Georgetown and SDSU thought they should advance with ease. Look at George Mason, they went to Final Four as a 11 seed, and they upset good teams along the way like UConn. They beat MSU, UNC and UConn on the way to the Final Four.
Saying FGCU have no chance is stupid based on the tournament result. They dominated both teams. It's not like they made a miracle buzz beater shot to beat them. They flatout just dominated both teams. It wouldn't surprise me if FGCU beat Florida. FGCU just shredded the 2nd best defensive team in the country in Georgetown, the same Georgetown who locked down Big East teams.
Florida tends to struggle against teams with good guard plays. In the tournament, FGCU guards have been fantastic and were unfazed by the full court press. With great guard play and their ability to be fearless, I can see the upset. Florida likes to force turnovers via full court press and half court trap.
But ignores the dozens of other Cinderella's that win a couple of games then get destroyed by a high seed the second weekend, when the element of surprise is gone. Florida is good. And they're going to be the tird most popular team in their state this week. (4th if you count the Heat).
but they have lost to shitty teams as well. The game will be much closer than you think. Everybody thought that it would be a blowout win by Georgetown and SDSU. You can't say the result with 100% certainity. This is one and done format where anything can happen.
This is an interview of a guy who knows he's getting a bigger job.
I know there are tons of upsets every year, but does it seem like there was a disproportionate amount of bad seeding this year? Of note you have 3 12's winning, a 15 making the sweet 16 for the first time ever and a victory for a 13 and 14 seed in the first round. Also, St. Louis, a 4 seed thought to be a team that would give Louisville fits, bowed out to a 12 seed. Is this just March Madness living up to its name, a case of very poor seeding or just a demonstration of how much pariety college basketball has this year?
Parity is the new thing for several reasons including expanded AAU programs, top players leaving for the NBA before graduation. Add that to the three point line which allows any team to beat a better team by getting hot from behind the arc and upsets are going to be the norm in this era. I don't think it's fair to blame the seeding. Georgetown had a great season and deserved a two. Gonzaga never played anyone, but they were 1 in the AP poll, so it's hard not to give them a one. The only team that was upset that I think was genuinely overrated was probably New Mexico.
of bad seeding (Gonzaga a 1?), parity, match-ups in style (seemed to often favor dogs in this year's tournament), shaky coaching, even shakier officiating, and sometimes, nothing but sheer/dumb luck.
But oh so much fun to watch, no matter how utterly destoyed my brackets are!
12's always do damage, though Oregon should have been way higher. Georgetown has a history of crashing out in spectacular fashion.
Sometimes the seas part, and teams get to walk across. I don't have the stats in front of me, but I am sure a 12 seed or worse has made the sweet 16 about 80% of the tournaments.
Easiest FF runs in the past decade+:
2008 - Kansas made the final four without playing a seed better than 8. 16, 8 , 12, 10.
2001 - MSU played 16, 9, 12, 11 to get to their final 4.
Illinois is impressive tonight. They're giving Miami all it can handle.
Brandon Paul! How are you not jacking up ill advised threes?
There is still time for 1 or 2 - hope they go in though.
A great stretch for the Illini - bring it home now!
Big Ten depth.
was pretty sweet. I'm really hoping we can get 5 teams in the sweet 16. Although Charles Barkley would still say the B1G is over rated.
Illinois!! B. Paul is playing out of his mind right now.
Larkin with a dagger.
Wow. Illinois got hosed on that call.
That was terrible, but that's what it takes for the ACC champion to beat the 6th place BIG team this year.
At seeing/judging who the ball is out off of.
Illini just got jobbed!
Illinois got boned
How the hell does the NCAA not make an out of bounds reviewable?
Illini got screwed.
Shows how overrated our conference is. ACC champs scrape by our 7th best team. SEC champs blow out our 9th best team.
That win puts Miami about 6th place in the B1G. Marquette should be able to club Miami.
the same Marquette team that struggled with Davidson and Butler? Not likely..
I don't know about Davidson, but Butler > Miami
Butler is basically a better Illinois.
Illinois beat Butler.
Using your hypothesis that Butler > Miami, we can continue to add on to that by using your suggested and flawed logic that the outcome of one game shows how good/bad a team is and dictates the outcome . For example: You for some reason say Bulter is better than Miami, and Miami beat Illinois, who beat Butler. So your new amended statement would be Butler > Miami > Illinois > Butler > Miami > Illinois > Butler > Miami > Illinois > Butler, etc etc etc. You can see your statement creates infinite loop of a paradox that is really just saying Butler is better than Butler, which has nothing to do with Miami vs. Marquette. I would suggest you quit being butt hurt about Illinois losing and accept in the tourney that anything can and will happen and that what happened in the last game or any game in the season is hopelessly irrelevant. Marquette vs. Miami won't be an easy game for either team.
Charles Barkley is a fool. He's still trying to argue that the Big Ten is overrated. Get that guy off my TV.
Look at the second replay. I think the ball actually was tipped by Illinois.
Absolutely no way. The review clearly showed Miami's player touch that ball with his entire hand and smack it out.
Coach K is taking the complete opposite approach from Tubby Smith: he has guys with four personals still out on the floor in the middle of the second half. So far it seems to be working.
Sparty to just beat the snot out of the Dookies?
I do not
Eh, I'm done with the conference pride thing. We did well the first weekend as a conference. Now I root only for Michigan's interests.