i find this extremely interesting
Day 3 Marching Band not going to Dallas RAGE Thread
April 22nd, 2012 at 1:53 PM | 
The rage is that we have the
The rage is that we have the
April 22nd, 2012 at 3:08 PM |
The biggest game of the year
The biggest game of the year
The biggest game of the year is OSU.
Give it to Wheatley!
April 22nd, 2012 at 6:02 PM |
OSU is a much bigger game and
OSU is a much bigger game and
OSU is a much bigger game and the band will be going to that game. Funny how life works out sometimes.
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
April 22nd, 2012 at 7:54 PM |
Define "much".
Define "much".
Ohio State will be playing a meaningless season as the result of being on bowl probation. A Michigan win there has the stakes of "Michigan didn't lose to OSU," which is admittedly big in the eyes of Michigan but less big than years where OSU is also contending for a Big Ten Championship. If OSU is favored then The Game gets bigger, but as of right now Michigan is favored since OSU will be learning a new system.
Alabama is coming off a national championship win riding the SEC high as the best team in the best conference in the country. Michigan will go into that game expected to lose for various reasons mostly attributed to great recruiting and oversigning by Alabama, giving them a more talented roster. Winning that game, however, would be bigger from a national perspective than beating OSU because Michigan would then be looking at a possible #1 ranking with big ten title and national championship hopes.
Saying the Alabama game doesn't compare to the OSU game next year is ludicrous. Unless you think there is essentially zero chance Michigan beats Alabama. If that's the case it sends an awful message to the nation that Michigan is too cheap to commit its financial resources that it SAID IT WOULD COMMIT to support its own football team.
Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:15 PM |
Those are all great
Those are all great
Those are all great reasons....but playing TSIO is always the biggest game of the year, bar none. Especially since we haven't won at the 'Shoe in over a decade (2000)
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
April 22nd, 2012 at 1:57 PM |
Are we seriously going to do
Are we seriously going to do
Are we seriously going to do a day-by-day update about this? Yes it sucks, but a 1,000 signature petition isn't going to change anything. I don't understand why so many of you are up in arms about it. They should be able to go, we voiced our dissatisfaction at DB's decision, great. We don't need a daily update.
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:01 PM |
+1000
+1000
Enough already.
Section 10, Row 45
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:35 PM |
And if you don't want to read it
And if you don't want to read it
Or already know about it, don't click on it..
Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:47 PM |
Don't give me that. I'm just
Don't give me that. I'm just
Don't give me that. I'm just procrastinating studying for finals and it's a slow Sunday.
Besides, I'm not the only one who thinks this. It isn't the travesty everyone is making it out to be. All you're doing by being all RABBLE RABBLE is overreacting. If you're really expecting that daily threads will change anything, don't hold your breath. Or do so until Day 200. Won't do a thing. DB made his decision. Get over it.
April 22nd, 2012 at 4:06 PM |
Persistence. Nothing wrong
Persistence. Nothing wrong
Persistence. Nothing wrong with keeping the flame going. As stated above. Dont read it if you dont like it. Who's wasting time here?
Its called a royale with cheese
April 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 PM |
Let's see.....
Let's see.....
The topic of the post was clear. It is a topic you disagree with. You click on it anyways. Where is the "RABBLE RABBLE" coming from exactly? The OP or you.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
April 22nd, 2012 at 6:04 PM |
Besides, I'm not the only one
Besides, I'm not the only one
Besides, I'm not the only one who thinks this.
Where can I sign the online petition to agree with this?
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:06 PM |
I picture Dr.Evil throwing
I picture Dr.Evil throwing
I picture Dr.Evil throwing this petition on Brandon's desk and putting his pinky up to his lips after he tells him there are over 1,000 signatures.
April 22nd, 2012 at 3:43 PM |
LMAO! Great visual.
LMAO! Great visual.
LMAO! Great visual.
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:08 PM |
I was under the impression
I was under the impression
I was under the impression that scheduling Alabama was too improve national recognition of the program, not to pad wallets (which we clearly dont need to do considering we have the second largest endowment for public universities). Not having the band at the game doesnt really bother me. Would you like to see the band at every game? yes. Would you like them to be at a big game? sure. Is it a league game with bearing on the B1G championship? no. Is it a game with potentiial to destroy any chances at a bcs bid? not really, assuming its not 49-0. Are you upset about it because of the fact that Bo has that quote about the band? probably.
Assuming the band can only attend a certain number of away games, Ide rather they be at Notre Dame, Nebraska, and OSU this year.
Flame away, but thats my 2 cents fwiw.
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:09 PM |
An Apollo crew was entirely UM grads
An Apollo crew was entirely UM grads
We should promote this. Here is my idea:
We open with the globe viewed from space, it is rotating slowly at the bottom of the screen. You can scarcely hear a song. From around the globe, a tiny speck comes tumbling gracefully towards us and as it does the music gets louder. As the close nears the music crescendos and we can finally make out the words: "PARTY ROCK IS GOIN' ON TONITE!". And fade out with a slogan: the Michigan difference.
2013 resolution - make it onto the 2014 favorite MGoPosters post, not ironically
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:16 PM |
Really you want the band to
Really you want the band to
Really, you want the band to go to Nebraska instead of playing the defending national champs?
903 wins most in college football
April 22nd, 2012 at 6:05 PM |
The Nebraska game is a big
The Nebraska game is a big
The Nebraska game is a big ten game. So, yes.
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:16 PM |
I'm going to a David Brandon talk tomorrow
I'm going to a David Brandon talk tomorrow
so, WHEN the topic comes up, I'll report back here as to what he says.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:27 PM |
The band playing after touchdowns:
The band playing after touchdowns:
Eh.
$400,000 dollars:
Wooohoooo!
A Journey of Father and Son
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April 22nd, 2012 at 2:37 PM |
I sincerely don't give a crap
I sincerely don't give a crap
I can't seem to find one iota of my being that gives a crap whether or not the band makes the trip. This coming from a high school marching band member and someone who lived with numerous mmb members during my time on campus. Neg away.
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:43 PM |
No thanks. I fully support
No thanks. I fully support
No thanks. I fully support the AD's decision on this one. 400 g's is a lot of money to blow just for the honor of having the band play the victors a couple of times. Unless the band is going to perform a super bowl-like halftime show with Madonna, then I'd rather use the money for better things (e.g., paying off stadium renovation loans, upgrading facilities, recruiting top-notch coaches, etc).
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:53 PM |
This argument would make more sense
This argument would make more sense
if the $400,000 was enough to make a serious impact on the 2012 budget. Given that the 2012 budget already expects an $11-million surplus, it doesn't.
Unless the AD has a specific project in mind that he needs all of the $11-million surplus to go towards that isn't already included in the budget. I'd be willing to listen to that, but I feel that it's time for the AD to justify his actions when this budget also includes
1) raising the per-ticket price for a home slate that got worse this year compared to last at a per-game basis, and
2) sold off a home game to the highest bidder.
Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:12 PM |
Well actually I've heard that
Well actually I've heard that
Well actually I've heard that there's going to be a ~$10 million dollar renovation to the front of Schembechler Hall in the not-so-distant future, so maybe $400K does make a difference and *shocker* Dave Brandon knows what the hell he's doing. Contrary to popular belief, money does NOT in fact grow on trees, especially $10 million dollars worth.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my school get state-of-the-art facilities for the football program for the foreseeable future than have our fight song play after a touchdown in what will inevitably be drowned out by fans anyway.
"Son tell me if I'm right, but its probably better without a big ugly rectum in front of you, and there are some big ugly rectums here. Am I right?"
-Mike Barwis
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:59 PM |
We are in agreement if such is the case.
We are in agreement if such is the case.
Now I'd prefer it if Dave Brandon said that himself or otherwise indicated it somehow, but if that turns out to be true then I will be more sympathetic towards Dave Brandon. Sadly, I won't believe this rumormongering until something with a little more substance comes out.
Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.
April 22nd, 2012 at 9:15 PM |
LOL. You'd just rather
LOL. You'd just rather
LOL. You'd just rather believe the rumormongering that he's doing this to milk every cent out of the program?
April 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 PM |
Don't believe me then, I
Don't believe me then, I
Don't believe me then, I don't have to validate what I've been told to you.
But as the gentleman above me said, you're rumormongering just as much as I supposedly am. Maybe you're right, and Mr. Brandon only took the job to further his own career and suck every penny out of the program and the student athletes only to eventually leave and organize a military coup to take over the Midwest, one state at a time.
"Son tell me if I'm right, but its probably better without a big ugly rectum in front of you, and there are some big ugly rectums here. Am I right?"
-Mike Barwis
April 22nd, 2012 at 10:28 PM |
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Open your eyes. Cash is plenty. You really think the renovation was planned with the 4.5 million we got from jerry world and espn? In case you are unfamiliar with construction timelines and project forecasting.. Not how it works sport. The band doesn't get seats negotiated for them before hand, if they were never going in the first place. That money was intended for that use among other things. Otherwise the contract portion for the seats would not have been there.
Its called a royale with cheese
April 22nd, 2012 at 10:32 PM |
Also when you contradicted
Also when you contradicted
Also when you contradicted yourself about DB "knowing what he is doing" by running a 10 mil deficit in the near future in the same sentence... Well that just makes perfect sense
Its called a royale with cheese
April 23rd, 2012 at 12:26 AM |
Talk about contradicting
Talk about contradicting
Talk about contradicting oneself...
Last time I checked, 11 (million) - 10 (million) = 1 (million). That's if the project were to be completed solely with this year's projected surplus, which is positive. that's not a deficit if the net result is still positive. And as you said, these things aren't planned overnight so the project wouldn't be funded entirely by this year's profit. Even if they did begin funding it with this year's profit they surely wouldn't use all of it, and would still have a substantial profit margin.
And if you think that the cash made from this game doesn't at least partially go towards that project, you're incredibly ignorant.
To say that renovations to the facility where the football team spends the vast majority of its time are a waste of $10 million dollars is another ignorant statement. If we want to continue reeling in elite recruits, we need to stay on par with or above our competition, and state-of-the-art facilities are one of the major attractions to many, many recruits. The renovations will pay dividends in the future, there's no doubt about that.
Although yes, I would have liked to have the band at the game, it's not the end of the world and the expenses saved won't just go to the Dave Brandon Strippers and Blow Foundation, they'll go towards something beneficial to the program. Sure you might not agree with some of the things he's done for the program, but he's modernized the athletic department and done substantially more good than bad for it. If you think not too far back, an athletic director in the past by the last name of Canham often made 'radical' and unpopular choices at the time, including hiring an Ohio boy with a goofy last name, but you don't see anyone badmouthing him anymore.
EDIT: Wow, didn't realize how long that turned out. Sorry to everyone, but having talked to the man once in the past I respect him and I find it difficult to tolerate relatively clueless people bad-mouthing him because he made the decision to not bring the band to a game.
"Son tell me if I'm right, but its probably better without a big ugly rectum in front of you, and there are some big ugly rectums here. Am I right?"
-Mike Barwis
April 24th, 2012 at 8:41 AM |
I’m not going to spend the
I’m not going to spend the
I’m not going to spend the inordinate amount of time replying that you did. My work pushes the envelope of sanity with hours worked. However, to simply think that I believe the man to be that ignorant is a fallacy. While I do believe defending him to be just that. Time and time again things are taken away, and nothing is reciprocated.
Expanded facilities, great. Not that an average fan could afford a suite, but such is the world now, ok. Raised ticket prices, ok my team is worth it. Selling a home game away for the sake of expanding a brand and then not bringing said brand, full circle? No way!
To speak to the financial side, if he spends 10 million of the 11 million, you honestly believe that extra mil isn't going to vaporize? Apologies if i offended but let's get real here. All of these decisions while great for the few, are largely poor for the many.
Its called a royale with cheese
April 22nd, 2012 at 6:08 PM |
Agreed.
Agreed.
Big Boys, make Big Decisions. Brandon did this for many reasons I am sure and some of it has to do with precedent. The band doesnt travel everywhere the team goes. If this game was in Tuscaloosa or Eugene, they wouldn't be going either.
Everyone acts like there is like $400K in Keesh on Brando's desk. For all we know the money done been spent. On things like LAX and everything else that depends on football to exist. I would rather have Varsity LAX than the band in Dallas.
If the band wants to go so badly, they should bake a lot of cookies and start selling them.
'Cause I Bleed Blue...
April 22nd, 2012 at 3:00 PM |
Chill the fuck out.
Chill the fuck out.
Chill the fuck out. Everything will work itself out. Someone send Mr. Ross an email about this $400k is is just chump change to him.
If Brandon has a specific reason why the band can't travel, why not just voice and let that be that? Atleast we will know why and these damn 3, 4, 5 day unnecessary threads can stop.
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April 22nd, 2012 at 3:02 PM |
Honestly,
Honestly,
I hope that a big-money donor doesn't bail out Dave Brandon here. If Brandon makes a public statement saying the department screwed up the budget and didn't account for the band, I would probably be more forgiving and hope that a Ross-type comes forward to pay for travel expenses. Until that happens, I'd prefer it be the good will of Brandon to make it all better with the pile of money he's receiving to even play this game.
Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.
April 22nd, 2012 at 8:02 PM |
F that
F that
The program needs more money for football. Kick ass and take names Brandon.
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April 22nd, 2012 at 4:08 PM |
Im lost apparently.
Im lost apparently.
I love how everyone can spend other people's EARNED income so easily but don't get behind the idea of using money the school was GIVEN! Thats the point here.
Its called a royale with cheese
April 22nd, 2012 at 3:37 PM |
The truth is....
The truth is....
...DB is using this as a petty ruse. We'll hear the band the way he wants us to hear it: pre-recorded, over loudspeakers. No antiquated equipment, no overhead, no nerds! It's a trial run to become a market leader: the first major program to disband their marching band entirely and move to a completely generic, unremarkable game day experience.
April 22nd, 2012 at 6:06 PM |
Your tin foil hat has clearly
Your tin foil hat has clearly
Your tin foil hat has clearly come off Ernis. Might want to re-attach it!
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
April 22nd, 2012 at 4:43 PM |
Dear God
Dear God
Bring back the actual football season...PLEASE.
Fact: If this news leaked the week of the Alabama game, and we had a game the next week 75% of you wouldn't give a shit as we moved into Week 2.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
April 22nd, 2012 at 5:04 PM |
Begone.
Begone.
Begone.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
April 22nd, 2012 at 4:57 PM |
I honestly believe
I honestly believe
Dave Brandon had no idea what kind of fire storm this would bring on. If he don't do something soon he might be looking to change his twitter account. He thought firing RR and hiring Hoke would be problematic? OMG we may have had a horrible three years with RR but at least we had a band.
"I am excited to be with Brady and I am excited about where this program is headed" D C Coach Mattison
April 22nd, 2012 at 5:02 PM |
Look at the progression of posbangs/negs on these OPs.
Look at the progression of posbangs/negs on these OPs.
Considering how quickly the outrage has died down around here, I'd say he's almost survived the fire storm.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
April 22nd, 2012 at 5:05 PM |
This cray-cray.
This cray-cray.
This cray-cray.
Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU: 68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
vs SEC: 20-8-1
vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<
April 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 PM |
This just in- The Alabama AD
This just in- The Alabama AD
This just in- The Alabama AD has decided not to send their band in support of Dave Brandon's decision. The Alabama fans, in support of his decision, have vowed to simply SING their fight song if/when they score a TD or FG. In other fake news, scientists have verified that the moon IS actually made of green cheese!! In real news, now I'm hungry.
Campaign manager--Hoke 2012.
April 24th, 2012 at 9:00 AM |
You're wrong about the
You're wrong about the
You're wrong about the Alabama AD. He hasn't decided yet, but he is leaning in that direction now that the fans created an online petition.
April 24th, 2012 at 1:24 PM |
We just received word from
We just received word from
We just received word from our band director that WE'RE GOING TO DALLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 24th, 2012 at 1:27 PM |
I saw twitter blowing up
I saw twitter blowing up
I saw twitter blowing up about it. I've been refreshing like crazy waiting for the gory details to be divulged on MGoBoard.
Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
April 24th, 2012 at 1:27 PM |
They going! Yay!
They going! Yay!
They going! Yay!
Reputable link http://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/statuses/194839383852060674
Per @nickbaumgardner, Michigan's band will be heading to Dallas for the 2012 FB opener vs. Alabama.
The rage is that we have the money and aren't sending the band to the biggest game of the year. It's not an excuse to hate Brandon. If he had sent them, I wouldn't have cared about Brandon.
903 wins most in college football