Peppers at 10, which seems low.
Day 27 Countdown to Kickoff - Nussmeier
I don't know what this is, but it's now going to serve as stock footage for my next fever-induced nightmare.
Video has no sound. I can play the other CTK vids w/ no issues, so its not my device. Anyone else having issues?
K Thx. Personally, I blame Borges for this.
they have had some problems with the sound in the past. They usually pick up on it fast
and Nuss is barking a lot at Shane
So is that what coaching is?
Once a coach stops critiquing you, they've given up on you. Also, while Nuss seems to yell a lot, he's actually giving good coaching points and showing the guys how to correct their mistakes. Big difference from the coaches who just yell and give you no information.
and it was all working with the quarterbacks. . . . I understand these are edited. But it's good to see the qb's getting coached up. And that good running play at the end was reassuring. .
I think my coaching points Nuss discussed had to do with both Gardner and Morris' footwork. I also enjoyed Nuss telling Devin not to do that dumb double pump fake that at least to me became synonymous with Al. I feel like as the running game became more and more inept we saw more and more of that damn draw play. I wish I could remember the particular game but I remember a game we seem to have attempted to run this play or the screen off of it at least 5-6 times. Drove me nuts. Gardner's fake was so unrealistic and the motion was so obvious seemingly everyone knew what was about to be run.
If Devin and Shane's footwork is drastically improved I feel I will already I like Nuss more as a QB coach. I know Denard was more than a project at QB, but the fact that He never improved in this area much under Borges coupled with the high number of mistakes early on last season by Devin really make one question if Borges really knew how to fix some of the larger technical mechanical issues of the QB position.
That is what irks me so much about Al.....even under Rod Smith I thought Denard had better mechanics and looked like he was getting coached up.
Once Al came in it seems like everyone lost their mechanics and footwork. Al clearly has forgot more about football than anyone of us will ever know but I feel like what he did know he just couldn't get it across to the QB's. Campbell/McCown I think covered a lot of what Al couldn't teach QB's.
What do you want him to do? Write thoughtful letters and sit the QBs down for lattes at Starbucks?
To know sarcasm when you read it...
Oh yeah? Well, maybe you didn't know I was being sarcastic in response to your sarcasm, buddy. So there.
It has sound for me. Nuss sounds a lot like Barwis.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Good to have that raspy voice back.
Nuss will bark at players, but he also "barks" encouragement and appreciation to them when they do a good job, and just as loudly.
I could watch more of that all day long.
So where's the difference between him and Borges?
100 lbs and hair?
100 is really generous
I heard the word "tempo" uttered from his mouth, and he was yelling at the QB to go faster. Pretty big difference there.
Working on footwork as well. I can't say for sure whether Borges did that or not, but I have a pretty good idea.
Big difference: Borges TOLD them about footwork. Nuss SHOWS them.
I love bugs.
Not defending Borges but (a) do we know he didn't "show" footwork and (b) you're implying that any coach of a certain age or portly-ness cannot teach a QB good footwork because he annot "show" how to do it. There is evidence some overweight and/or older offensive coordinators and in fact offensive minded HCs do ok teaching QBs footwork.
Yes I do know, but aside from that, I'm talking specifically about AB, not the other master minds you mentioned.
I'm not sure we know for certain what Borges did or didn't do, just as we probably can't be certain that what we just saw of Nuss for 3 minutes is typical for what he does on a daily basis. But, what we did see from Nuss that we never saw from Borges is committment to being a coach and teacher and being hands on. Borges talked about what we wanted a lot. He talked a lot about scheme. But, we never saw him actually coaching and teaching in the way we just saw Nuss. As a coach you simply can't be effective with many young people if you stand back, analyze, watch, and assess, which is what Borges APPEARS to do. You have to get in there, be energetic, show your passion and enthusiasm, and coach them up IMO. You also have to show them that you care about them. How do you do that? You do that with energy, enthusiasm, feedback, etc. I learned that the first day in my internshihp as a strength coach working with college athletes. This is IMO the difference between Borges and Nuss. One appears to more of a strategist whereas the other appears to be more of a coach. Just ask yourself which you'd prefer to play for?
Again not a Borges fan here (I noted a few years ago how Auburn's offense got worse the longer he was there, and he was fired before a bowl...and also how Denard actually regressed in his passing game the longer Borges was around) BUT I find it incredible a guy who simply stuck to schemes and talking players through coaching - rather than actually coaching with action - lasted as an OC for so long and landed the OC job at 2 of the premier BCS programs in the country.
Also what does it say about Hoke that he took this kind of "non action teacher" around with him to multiple jobs.
I am just being a devil's advocate. I agree with your points about how to coach in general... but I think a lot of people are throwing another coach who apparently did enough to last through a couple of high profile jobs into a bin of garbage.
Guys everything shiny and new is awesome - I get it. And I am not arguing I don't prefer Nuss's way. I am just saying there are many ways to skin a cat and there are plenty of guys who likewise in the same manner Nuss does and fail. It is not rocket science out there - it's just stylistic I'd rather have a Harbaugh in the trenches kind of guy myself - but guys who are cerebral and stand back do well too. It's all in the application.
I think we all agree. We're making sweeping generalizations form a very small amout of data. Maybe Borges started out his career doing all the stuff Nuss is doing and developed a reputation as a good coach, which carried him along his various stops. And, maybe somewhere along the long as he aged and got more expereince he became less interested in the coaching and more in the strategy. Maybe that didn't happen until after he had established a relationship with Hoke. Maybe that style even worked with more veteran teams or different types of QBs, but didn't work as well with guys with less than pefect technique like Denard or Devin and maybe was less effective with the young teams UM had the last 2 years. Who knows? There are a ton of what ifs here. And, the other side of that is that Nuss is young and is trying to prove himself, whereas a season Borges probably did so less. But, I think we all agree that we do know and what we have seen from Borges the last few years was not great, but does appear to be good with Nuss thus far. That's all we're really saying. And, I think it's OK to say that as long as we are also willing to admit that this is just our opinion based on minimal date and is neither fact nor impartial.
Guys, give us all a break and let us "want it" to be better! There's a decent chance it is! No one here knows enough about the facts, so I'm going with cautious optimism that he's better, coaching's better, scheme is better, etc!
It wasn't made to highlight the differences, between the two coaches; however, if you're looking for differences, look at their hands and count the rings.
Yes, there is a difference in that Borges has more.
Where did Borges win a national title?
Rings and get back to you.
If they don't yet exist yet we'll revisit the question in twenty years.
Retroactivity for the win.
Edit: oh and I'm psyched for nuss and am not and haven't been a fan of Borges (even in 2011 *picks up pbr and takes a condescending sip after writing all this*).
Edit #2: surprising no one they do exist. I realize auburn isn't recognized as champions by the bcs and the school doesn't claim it themselves.
Also I'm not really sure how a sip of beer can be taken condescendingly (also, since it's hard to convey tone on the internet, condescending was added as a joke making fun of myself for the 2011 comment and nothing more).
Borges has two Pac-10 Championship rings and an SEC Championship ring. Nuss has one SEC and one National Championship rings. So that's two to three in Borges' favor by my count.
Mo money, mo problems.
That's a coach I would want to play for and learn from. Our QBs are going to be getting coached up well not only before the game but Nuss is going to be with them between every series making adjustments. Go to Vegas now while the odds are still a good buy on this team.
Nuss is a great football coach from what I see on video. I am really excited to see Michigan getting back to a true pro-style offense.
Do it every day on my commute. No biggie.
To have much more fire and direction to qb's than the former coach. Again, I love the intensity, sounds like both qb's have some bad habits to break...his attention to fine details just in that 3 minute segment seems extraordinary, great coaching.
Maybe because he was yelling a lot recently but his voice seems really scratchy and reminds me of some celebrity but I can't place it.
Anyhow I am not going evaluate a guy on words - most coaches can talk great. Let's see better footwork, better accuracy, better decision making, better presnap reads, etc from the QBs and a cogent offense and that is the proof I will need. I do support the move in terms of even if they are equal coaches Nuss seems a lot more relatable to 16/17 yr old kids than Borges appeared to be, so that should help out on the recruiting trail.
I think he pays a lot more attention to detail than al did. I think it will pay off in the end. Go Blue!
"Uptempo" and "can't take the sack" was heard emphasized. Happy I am
That after this long Devin needs to be told that in practice!
Every level, you'll find coaches telling their QBs "not to take the sack". And then they'll get that hammered into their heads, and they'll yell at them "work the pocket, let the play develop!" It's a fine balance that is consistently being taught to QBs.
I do like what he said to Devin about the sack. Fergodsakes no more 20 yard dancing backwards in circles thingies. It worked very early last year when no one had seen it before but after that it was a very bad thing. Throw it out of bounds, and get to 2nd and 10 or fall forward for 2nd and 9 if need be.
Did anyone email this to Damien Harris to show life goes on after Al?
have or 've. Yea. I'm that guy.
EDIT: the post I was replying to appears to have been deleted.
I see it, dude. grammatical slaughter, that...
Hmmmm, I don't know. Let's see......
- Perhaps a blitz by the D?
- A designed scenario by the OC to see how his QB would react?
- The defense won that particular play?
Totally man. First Fall practice with a new OC and one 4 second video clip has you unsettled. Doom.
I wondered about that. The video must have been from the spring, right?
Of Nuss tells you he's a quality coach but the other three, two of which have National Championship rings, produced many NFL players, an undefeated year and is at least at star level recruiting to our previous or better norms aren't because of two mediocre years with incredible youth? You my friend are silly.
...those other three are not just non-quality coaches, but that they are extremely over their heads and are MAC coaches at best.
Yeah, Greg Mattison is totally out of his element, brah! HIGH FIVE!
Speaking of blown assignments, I believe I have given you few assignments on, well, not being this way and you insist on it all the same. I have difficulty believing that someone who is so incredibly down on everything and has a history of bringing up coaching-related topics in threads which do not call for them specifically to provoke a reply wants to do anything except troll. Your behavior in this thread does not inspire confidence that you're taking these warnings seriously.
As for what you're saying here, inductive reasoning is apparently not a strength for you, because here and in a couple other posts in this thread, you make some rather hasty generalizations based on a statistically insufficient sample of plays from the three-minute video.
I do understand.
And yet you insist on trolling all day, every day. This makes your behavior WORSE, not better.
Of course, I'm not even convinced you're connected to the University of Michigan at all.
He'll show you his diploma. He already offered to do so for me. Unless he shows me his diploma, next to two forms of ID, with his grandma there for verification, while he is actually receiving his diploma from president Obama, I'm not believing him
A recent grad and you can't post a pic? That is a grin.
Regardless; by itself, the fact that you have a degree from Michigan doesn't say a lot about your character.
This fellow graduated from Michigan.
This fellow did not:
You do realize that there are plenty of people on this board who have coached and even PLAYED college football? Some may also have the privilege to watch Michigan practice every now and then. In my own opinion, you are obviously neither and you sound like an uninformed, whiney turd.
Clark went around him, but you can't expect Braden to win every one of those battles. Devin still had ~3 secs to make a throw and he didn't; he's got to get rid of the ball quicker. The OL is still young and we are not going to be a team where the QB can just sit back, have s'mores around a campfire, and casually throw to his 5th option. I don't think Nuss is happy with the protection on that play (unless it was intended), but he wants Devin to speed up his progression, too.
I am hoping Clark is beating Braden on a relatively regular basis. One is a senior DE who in theory should be toying with a guy who has exactly 0 plays under his belt at the college game. Right now Braden is a starter based on practices and his primary backup seems to be our starting center. So Braden is no sure thing. I'd expect Clark to be doing very well against him in general. Just like I'd expect Schofield to be very consistent in neutralizing Clark in the same video 12 months ago.
Zero is a pretty small sample size.
Not sure I can believe this was real. Two positive runs? Doesn't sound like our team at all.
Of course, I suppose it is possible that Nussmeier doesn't know a good run from a bad one. I will give you the fact that you couldn't see it.
You really do need to up your game.
1928 for next OC.
Nuss is at practice in a big field, with a bunch of guys running around and other position groups practicing. How else is he going to make his teaching points heard?
Thank you. Good point. He was mic'ed up. I suspect that when we actually ever see a video of him truly yelling it'll be scary.
I loved what I saw about not taking the sack. He ask Devin what he should do in that situation and once he gets the answer he lays into him a little bit to drive home the point! No more sacks and neg yard plays is a big focus for this team.
Shut the fuck up
You refuse to lower your expectations and opinions based on a hype video?
Yeah, I value your opinions.
not understanding what "temper" means in that context.
Let me put it another way.
Your expectations are built off video games and a failed attempt to play the game which means you don't know jack shit when it comes to football. Just my opinion, of course.
Because your history of trolling speaks for itself. I'll be waiting for 1929 to pop up, although I'm crossing my fingers for an IP ban.
Borges was horrible when it came to schemes, calling plays, and setting up plays for later in the game. Even if nuss is marginally better in those areas it'll be great, not mention running a faster tempo, more simplistic Off scheme.
Also quit with the crab pants bitching. Being so negative in early august is annoying as fuck
You are a total douchebag. What's that like?
Trolling isn't even remotely honest.
maybe watch some three-minute "hype videos" of teams you deem elite and see if you can spot any flaws on their respective third days of practice. surely, you'll find something discouraging, even in the world beaters of college football. this exercise could give you some perspective about our team going forward. otherwise, these dogs'll be on your ass like it's got sausage links trailing from it...
I was hoping that you would be intelligent enough to pick up this on your own, but you obviously aren't so here it goes. They are just reporting today for team meetings. Fall practices have not even started. These are clips from the spring, which would be one of the first few practices with a new coach and playbook. How about you wait to troll until you see some updated practice footage.
Everything you've written here is negative.
I'm not saying there's room to grow, there is. I'm saying your pissing and moaning isn't needed
assholes are like opinions--every message board's got to have one...
Dude you are negative
I'm cautiously pessimistic...
Looked good to me! Like Coach Hoke, he seems like a teacher. I didn't see him cursing or demeaning anyone. He will help our team improve and in the end, our team will be grateful he was touch. Love it!
I at least feel somewhat better about our offense in general going into 2014. Call it unfounded optimism, if you want to.
At least someone reads my posts.
Coach Nuss! Make the read. If nothing is there then get rid of it. We gotta stay ahead of the chains.
reminds me a lot of my JV baseball coach who I regard as the best coach I ever played for. Both are not afraid to get on your ass a little bit especially when you are having trouble doing what was asked, but the pointed statements were never ever personal attacks nor were demeaning. They were just about fundamentals and technique and calling on you, the player, directly, to do the job better.
I also like the "80% throw". That makes a lot of sense to me thinking of golf swings and just the approach to the game using numbers. Its much more exacting than "throw it softer".
Nuss is going to need some aloe for the throat, LOL. I think this was spring practice most likely. I am betting that Shane Morris is going to emerge as quite a polished QB next season with all this drilling...and I would be happy to have him as a standby backup in case DG were to get injured.
Agree very much with your first paragraph. I think that's the way to do it. I could see Mr. Kelly at ND being the opposite in terms of making it personal - that said the dude gets results too.
Chewing ass with positive reinforcement.
Sounds like my prom night.
The offense is gonna be much improved I can swear to it. As a guy that has played football at every level except the NFL I have went through a coaching change very similar to this one. My junior year of high school going into senior year my sre defense coordinator got let go, I played at a school where football was extremely important. The problem with the old DC was that his scheme was way way too complex for us to get a solid grasp on. We had talent all over the field. 3 guys on that team went d1 with a couple of others going to low level college football too.
When we got our new DC he simplified things a lot. We went from being last in the league when in pads used given up all the way up to second.. very shy from first. And the run D went from middle of the pack to first. The new guy was just a better teacher and everything. We returned every body on D also except an outside LB. The improvents are gonna be big I'd say after speaking from personal experience.
In college I went back to playing for a guy who had an extremely complex system.. he was a better teacher so I had a better grasp on it but i still had some ups and downs as a freshman. It'll be intresting to see how they play this year, I left the team to take care of my boy.
Point is that teaching and simpler schemes will have a huge effect on the team. Keepp in mind I had a crazy complex scheme on the Defensive side of the ball. For Michigan it was the O line which is the hardest position to learn in football maybe aside from the qb and the scheme they had was complex and not simple.. I can only imagine the issues they had. With simpler stuff being installed and not as many plays it's gonna pay off huge.
From a complex system to a simplified one. This sounds familiar...
I am more confident in Nuss. Can't wait.
Looks like our QBs are in good hands. But Nuss's true worth will be determined by what he can do to repair our offensive line. If he can make it at least average, then we've got ourselves a keeper.
Based on track record Nuss is a good QB coach. The OC part is obviously more difficult to tell just because we don't know what he wants to be - I am sure Saban micromanaged the hell out of him. On offense IMO we have 1 excellent position coach in Heck (he seems to take guys to their full potential whatever that potential may be) and 2 guys who are more questionable in Funk and Jackson; of course their 2 jobs go hand in hand. But it's been a while since we've really seen a RB "develop" - I don't know if Mike Hart straight off the bus being the bomb can be credited to Jackson and since then its been a long string of meh. But we've always had great OL coaching pre RR era so I hope Funk is a victim of circumstance. It worries me a guy straight out of HS is looking as polished as guys under Funk for 2 years.
He seems very demanding and I can tell that he holds guys accountable. This thing can get real good real fast. Fall camp starts today and we're only 4 weeks away from App. St.
Man I love these countdowns! So ready for the season to start!
Nuss is intense and instills a sense of urgency that the program needs desperately. Sure, it's only a practice video, but if it represents the lessons that are being drilled into the players' heads every day, there is reason to be hopeful.
I have said it for months...Nuss proves in this video why he is worth at least a game a year over borges....I'm still loving my prediction
my old coach used to yell like that.. loud enough that you heard him, but soft enough to not make you feel like a piece of shit.
See the negative in the guy who left and the positive in the one who takes over. That being said I've loved watching Coach Nuss since I seeing him coach in the Spring Game. The dude was workng hard to teach as much as he could every second. He seems to me like the hardest working on-field coach I can remember. We really have gone total opposite here from mad scientist scheme guy to a guy that's all about proper technique and fundamentals. This is going to be just what our running game needed. DG will be twice as effective a QB with some actual production from the RB's. We really haven't had that for a minute...
Twice as productive!? Holy crap! You mean he's going to have 5,920yds passing, 42 passing td's, 6 interceptions, 966yds rushing, and 22 rushing td's!?!? MNC here we come!!! Hello Heisman!!
1. Nussmeier passes the eye and ear test for what your looking for in a young exuberant coach. His intensity and attention to detail is noticeable.
2. I worry that he will be targeted very quickly for a head coach position. His pedigree and his personality suggest that he will not be anyone's OC for very long. I hope he is at Michigan for a very long time but i think it's pretty apparent that he is going to be a commodity if he finds success in the next few years in Ann Arbor.
I have similar feelings. If he's successful I'm hoping we can keep him by bumping up the pay and making him HC in waiting or something.
At FSU we did this with Jimbo and it has paid extraordinary dividends. Hoke is not that old though so it would be hard pressed to "HC in waiting" Nussmeier. I'm really excited to see what he brings to the table this year. I think he will hold these young men accountable to the standard of the uniform. If that happens we may find our selves in the first college football playoff because there is nobody on the schedule that is a "mismatch". Go Blue!
I hope so. Like what Alabama has been doing with Kirby Smart. I really dont want to lose him to another school.
Sparty has been able to keep Naduzzi through multiple HC offers by bumping his pay. They wont keep him forever but 8 yrs is still pretty good. If we could keep Nuss for 3 that would be terrific. Its tough when you change coordinators too frequently.
Great video ... it got me even more excited about the season.
The snippet that caught my eye was his coaching Morris on getting elevation on his pass to get over the linebacker, not through him.
The tenacity he brings! I believe the game changer will be his high energy towards the guys on the sidelines!
But do we really think it will have to carry the team? Just the QB coaching from this guy will be a HUGE difference.
Totally agree, the concise analysis and adjustments from a qb coach should pay dividends immediately.
Him coaching on the sideline will be huge for the offense. They will feed off his energy, and he will make sure they dont come out flat like they did way too often last year.