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Day 27 Countdown to Kickoff - Nussmeier
I don't know what this is, but it's now going to serve as stock footage for my next fever-induced nightmare.
Video has no sound. I can play the other CTK vids w/ no issues, so its not my device. Anyone else having issues?
K Thx. Personally, I blame Borges for this.
they have had some problems with the sound in the past. They usually pick up on it fast
and Nuss is barking a lot at Shane
So is that what coaching is?
Once a coach stops critiquing you, they've given up on you. Also, while Nuss seems to yell a lot, he's actually giving good coaching points and showing the guys how to correct their mistakes. Big difference from the coaches who just yell and give you no information.
and it was all working with the quarterbacks. . . . I understand these are edited. But it's good to see the qb's getting coached up. And that good running play at the end was reassuring. .
I think my coaching points Nuss discussed had to do with both Gardner and Morris' footwork. I also enjoyed Nuss telling Devin not to do that dumb double pump fake that at least to me became synonymous with Al. I feel like as the running game became more and more inept we saw more and more of that damn draw play. I wish I could remember the particular game but I remember a game we seem to have attempted to run this play or the screen off of it at least 5-6 times. Drove me nuts. Gardner's fake was so unrealistic and the motion was so obvious seemingly everyone knew what was about to be run.
If Devin and Shane's footwork is drastically improved I feel I will already I like Nuss more as a QB coach. I know Denard was more than a project at QB, but the fact that He never improved in this area much under Borges coupled with the high number of mistakes early on last season by Devin really make one question if Borges really knew how to fix some of the larger technical mechanical issues of the QB position.
That is what irks me so much about Al.....even under Rod Smith I thought Denard had better mechanics and looked like he was getting coached up.
Once Al came in it seems like everyone lost their mechanics and footwork. Al clearly has forgot more about football than anyone of us will ever know but I feel like what he did know he just couldn't get it across to the QB's. Campbell/McCown I think covered a lot of what Al couldn't teach QB's.
What do you want him to do? Write thoughtful letters and sit the QBs down for lattes at Starbucks?
To know sarcasm when you read it...
Oh yeah? Well, maybe you didn't know I was being sarcastic in response to your sarcasm, buddy. So there.
It has sound for me. Nuss sounds a lot like Barwis.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Good to have that raspy voice back.
Nuss will bark at players, but he also "barks" encouragement and appreciation to them when they do a good job, and just as loudly.
I could watch more of that all day long.
So where's the difference between him and Borges?
100 lbs and hair?
100 is really generous
I heard the word "tempo" uttered from his mouth, and he was yelling at the QB to go faster. Pretty big difference there.
Working on footwork as well. I can't say for sure whether Borges did that or not, but I have a pretty good idea.
Big difference: Borges TOLD them about footwork. Nuss SHOWS them.
I love bugs.
Not defending Borges but (a) do we know he didn't "show" footwork and (b) you're implying that any coach of a certain age or portly-ness cannot teach a QB good footwork because he annot "show" how to do it. There is evidence some overweight and/or older offensive coordinators and in fact offensive minded HCs do ok teaching QBs footwork.
Yes I do know, but aside from that, I'm talking specifically about AB, not the other master minds you mentioned.
I'm not sure we know for certain what Borges did or didn't do, just as we probably can't be certain that what we just saw of Nuss for 3 minutes is typical for what he does on a daily basis. But, what we did see from Nuss that we never saw from Borges is committment to being a coach and teacher and being hands on. Borges talked about what we wanted a lot. He talked a lot about scheme. But, we never saw him actually coaching and teaching in the way we just saw Nuss. As a coach you simply can't be effective with many young people if you stand back, analyze, watch, and assess, which is what Borges APPEARS to do. You have to get in there, be energetic, show your passion and enthusiasm, and coach them up IMO. You also have to show them that you care about them. How do you do that? You do that with energy, enthusiasm, feedback, etc. I learned that the first day in my internshihp as a strength coach working with college athletes. This is IMO the difference between Borges and Nuss. One appears to more of a strategist whereas the other appears to be more of a coach. Just ask yourself which you'd prefer to play for?
Again not a Borges fan here (I noted a few years ago how Auburn's offense got worse the longer he was there, and he was fired before a bowl...and also how Denard actually regressed in his passing game the longer Borges was around) BUT I find it incredible a guy who simply stuck to schemes and talking players through coaching - rather than actually coaching with action - lasted as an OC for so long and landed the OC job at 2 of the premier BCS programs in the country.
Also what does it say about Hoke that he took this kind of "non action teacher" around with him to multiple jobs.
I am just being a devil's advocate. I agree with your points about how to coach in general... but I think a lot of people are throwing another coach who apparently did enough to last through a couple of high profile jobs into a bin of garbage.
Guys everything shiny and new is awesome - I get it. And I am not arguing I don't prefer Nuss's way. I am just saying there are many ways to skin a cat and there are plenty of guys who likewise in the same manner Nuss does and fail. It is not rocket science out there - it's just stylistic I'd rather have a Harbaugh in the trenches kind of guy myself - but guys who are cerebral and stand back do well too. It's all in the application.
I think we all agree. We're making sweeping generalizations form a very small amout of data. Maybe Borges started out his career doing all the stuff Nuss is doing and developed a reputation as a good coach, which carried him along his various stops. And, maybe somewhere along the long as he aged and got more expereince he became less interested in the coaching and more in the strategy. Maybe that didn't happen until after he had established a relationship with Hoke. Maybe that style even worked with more veteran teams or different types of QBs, but didn't work as well with guys with less than pefect technique like Denard or Devin and maybe was less effective with the young teams UM had the last 2 years. Who knows? There are a ton of what ifs here. And, the other side of that is that Nuss is young and is trying to prove himself, whereas a season Borges probably did so less. But, I think we all agree that we do know and what we have seen from Borges the last few years was not great, but does appear to be good with Nuss thus far. That's all we're really saying. And, I think it's OK to say that as long as we are also willing to admit that this is just our opinion based on minimal date and is neither fact nor impartial.
Guys, give us all a break and let us "want it" to be better! There's a decent chance it is! No one here knows enough about the facts, so I'm going with cautious optimism that he's better, coaching's better, scheme is better, etc!
It wasn't made to highlight the differences, between the two coaches; however, if you're looking for differences, look at their hands and count the rings.
Yes, there is a difference in that Borges has more.
Where did Borges win a national title?
Rings and get back to you.
If they don't yet exist yet we'll revisit the question in twenty years.
Retroactivity for the win.
Edit: oh and I'm psyched for nuss and am not and haven't been a fan of Borges (even in 2011 *picks up pbr and takes a condescending sip after writing all this*).
Edit #2: surprising no one they do exist. I realize auburn isn't recognized as champions by the bcs and the school doesn't claim it themselves.
Also I'm not really sure how a sip of beer can be taken condescendingly (also, since it's hard to convey tone on the internet, condescending was added as a joke making fun of myself for the 2011 comment and nothing more).
Borges has two Pac-10 Championship rings and an SEC Championship ring. Nuss has one SEC and one National Championship rings. So that's two to three in Borges' favor by my count.
Mo money, mo problems.
That's a coach I would want to play for and learn from. Our QBs are going to be getting coached up well not only before the game but Nuss is going to be with them between every series making adjustments. Go to Vegas now while the odds are still a good buy on this team.
Nuss is a great football coach from what I see on video. I am really excited to see Michigan getting back to a true pro-style offense.
Do it every day on my commute. No biggie.
To have much more fire and direction to qb's than the former coach. Again, I love the intensity, sounds like both qb's have some bad habits to break...his attention to fine details just in that 3 minute segment seems extraordinary, great coaching.
Maybe because he was yelling a lot recently but his voice seems really scratchy and reminds me of some celebrity but I can't place it.
Anyhow I am not going evaluate a guy on words - most coaches can talk great. Let's see better footwork, better accuracy, better decision making, better presnap reads, etc from the QBs and a cogent offense and that is the proof I will need. I do support the move in terms of even if they are equal coaches Nuss seems a lot more relatable to 16/17 yr old kids than Borges appeared to be, so that should help out on the recruiting trail.
I think he pays a lot more attention to detail than al did. I think it will pay off in the end. Go Blue!