Bombadil

July 7th, 2012 at 4:06 PM ^

David Dawson's going to be one heck of a Michigan Man. Now let's leave him alone and let him enjoy his summer like everyone else.

M-Wolverine

July 7th, 2012 at 4:09 PM ^

We had that 200 post discussion about it, and a thread on who we should get to replace him, and the post telling people to stop with people defending the value of following recruits tweets...

Magnus

July 7th, 2012 at 4:32 PM ^

I obviously can't defend the people who were calling him out on Twitter or whatever...

...but if Brady Hoke indeed put the kibosh on Dawson's Florida visit, then I think the 200-ish post thread was somewhat relevant.  If the coaches didn't mind, then the visit would probably still be happening.  So when the alarm bells went off in some of our heads, it was probably warranted (although, like I said, some people apparently crossed the line).

DeepBlue83

July 7th, 2012 at 4:45 PM ^

had any influence on the coaches.  They've set a firm policy with recruits right from the start that if they commit to Michigan and then take visits elsewhere as if they are still shopping around, then their spot is now open and will not be held for them.  I applaud the coaches for taking a hard line on this.  It may create a few awkward situations, but the word will get out that we only want people who are REALLY committed, not just verbally.  We want people who are enthusiatic about playing for this school, this team and this coaching staff.  It's especially important when we're getting so many commitments early, because we don't want guys who will bail later on and leave us empty handed because we stopped pursuing recruits at their position.  

Jeff09

July 7th, 2012 at 4:49 PM ^

Agree 100%.  If it wasn't a big deal, he'd still be headed down there.  My question is, people keep referring to fans bashing him and going after him, but I haven't seen much of that.  In the 200+ post freakout thread it seemed like most were just expressing disappointment at possibly losing him, along with questions as to how the coaches would handle it (a clear compliment) with very few (but admittedly rude/stupid) 'we don't need him' or 'he's so immature' posts.  Where is all the bashing people keep talking about? Maybe I just missed a bunch of posts that got deleted or something...

M-Wolverine

July 7th, 2012 at 8:01 PM ^

But overblown. How about people wait, oh, 24 hours before freaking out over a TWEET and see how it plays out. 200 posts over him decommiting? Still overblown over one guy, but understandable. It's all old news a day later. Instant media means instant stupidity. I mean we had a post using your recruiting data trying to figure out who we could get to REPLACE him. Over a tweet. Hey, if it got you more page hits, good end result, particularly yesterday, since you didn't start it. 20, 30 posts of "wonder what's going to happen" is what this rated. The rest is just fanbases showing that instead of people thinking they're all stupid they have to say something and remove all doubt. It's going to be a top five great class. We'll lose a guy or two, gain a guy or three. No one is the number 1 player in the country. About the only guy who would truly be a big deal would be Shane. And at this point that would be quite the...twist. Recruiting is a numbers game. And the same people who are going to freak out over maybe losing a guy are going to be forgetting or criticizing him when he's a freshman, looking for him to be replaced by the next great potential recruit. Worry when our class is #15. There are no worries when it's #5. (Or better)

Magnus

July 7th, 2012 at 8:08 PM ^

Site hits aside, I really don't think it's a big deal that a thread of "Who might replace him?" popped up.  That's sports talk for you.  It's full of what-ifs.  You wouldn't bat an eyelash if you saw a thread saying "If Miguel Cabrera leaves via free agency, who could we get to play 3rd base?"  I don't know why this should elicit a different response.

ChopBlock

July 7th, 2012 at 8:22 PM ^

The situation is totally different. A blog doesn't really have that much influence on, say, baseball players. They're older, more secure (Albert Belle as a conspicuous exception), and getting paid money to play.

Now contrast that with a 17-year-old kid who's deciding where to go to college and play. He's not getting paid, so all financial considerations (such as those that Cabrera might have) are gone. It's all about the team, fanbase, and how the recruit feels. They're uber-sensative to whispers about them because they're that age and the power differential is really screwed up on a number of different levels.

TL;DR: Teenagers are very often insecure, and so vibes of rejection on a place as prominent as this one can be harmful.

Magnus

July 7th, 2012 at 8:24 PM ^

"Who could replace him if he leaves?" is a fair discussion, regardless of a kid's feelings.  If he's too sensitive to handle a discussion like that, he's too sensitive, period.

"Good riddance, this kid is a prima donna!" is not a fair discussion.

Magnus

July 7th, 2012 at 11:19 PM ^

That seems like an issue to be addressed to the wayward posters.  Immature posters are going to be immature.  You can go to any newspaper's website, read an innocuous article, and see people calling each other names in the comments section.  That doesn't mean the article shouldn't be posted.  It means there are idiots in the world, and they should be ignored or banned from posting.

Elmer

July 7th, 2012 at 4:44 PM ^

I'm really glad Dawson is staying committed, I really think the kid is going to be a special player. As for the twitter idiots, I wish they would start rooting for Ohio where they could blend into the crowd.

ryebreadboy

July 7th, 2012 at 5:00 PM ^

Well that answers our question about whether school-sponsored camps are considered camps or visits.  Clearly the best thing to do if you're a recruit and interested in something like this is pick up the phone and run it by your position coach at UM.  I may be wrong, but I think that recruits can always call the coaches -- the dead periods apply only to coaches calling recruits.

Gssumcat

July 7th, 2012 at 5:06 PM ^

David Dawson is a tough young man. He handled his business and put this thing to bed fast. He'll be a star at Michigan and beyond.

DonAZ

July 7th, 2012 at 6:24 PM ^

All it took was one look:

And Dawson reconsidered. :-)

(I'd love to have heard what was said between Dawson and the coaches.  My sense is there were no harsh words or veiled threats ... just, 'Son, we'd rather you didn't.' ... and that's all that was needed.)

JohnnyV123

July 7th, 2012 at 7:27 PM ^

Glad this is done with. Honestly, this was the first time I have not wanted to come on mgoblog over this twitter debate mostly surrounding Dawson.

I agree with Magnus that it was a significant piece of news but at the same time everyone freaking out about it and bombarding him on twitter isn't either.

Sione's Flow

July 7th, 2012 at 7:37 PM ^

Personally I'm glad to hear the news, but the way some people reacted to this was absolutely buckeyeian. Most people on this board probably read the story about the tragedy involving Dawson's father.  But the people who were all upset about his "reported" trip to Florida, keep in mind this a 17yr old kid who lost his father only a few weeks ago. He should be getting nothing but support from everyone who supports the Maize and Blue, regardless of whether or not he wants to visit another school.