And now I'll proceed with mattress shopping with added joy. Yay!
David Dawson cancels Florida trip
like sleeping on heaven!
Actually, I have to respectfully disagree. I am recently divorced and had to do some furniture shopping for my new home. I decided on the Restonic Tempa Gel series. It's a memory foam like Tempurpedic, but the foam is gel infused to help keep you cool and not create hot spots like the Tempurpedic can. Also, they are the same prices and less than Tempurpedic. I greatly recommend it.
Haven't settled on one yet but love the cool gell with springs. Also cheaper than tempurpedic.
I got a generic Tempur-pedic from Costco and it is AWESOME. ~$700 for a king.
This is the most fun shopping experience. Where else do you get to achieve your shopping goals by (t least pretending) taking a nap on as many pillowy soft surfaces as possible?
I'm thrilled that Dawson has reconfirmed his commitment to Michigan. If he wanted to go to Florida, I'm cool with that. He's a kid with an offer for a free trip. I'd want to go. But I'm sure that the coaches told him "you can go, but if you do, we will let some of our other line recruits know a spot is available". He didn't like the idea that someobody else might take his sopot while he was checking it out down there, and reaffirmed that he wanted to play for Michigan.
I think for both us and him, that solidifies everything completely.
been more appropriate
It's been said, many times, many ways: TRUST THE COACHES... and ignore twitter accounts run by anybody under the age of 18 unless re-transmitted by someone highly paid (ok, maybe not highly) to translate, interprete, and consult animal entrails to discern the one true meaning.
Florida is just a dog begging for scraps.
+1 to you sir. I'd up vote you but I'm on my iPhone app.
I got ya
Personally I'm more impressed by that Taco pic. Holy crap that kid is athletic
I do believe his Sparq score was insanely high.. 101 something.. good for 8th highest DL in the country.
I agree the picture is impressive. When I saw Taco with those blocking dummies under him as if they were huge legs, my first thought was of Tacopants.
Guess he really is a Michigan Man. Meant more to play for Michigan than take a trip to Florida. Great to have him on board with this amazing class.
Happy to hear it because he will be a great piece of this class, but I feel bad for the kid. Basically had a shitstorm come down on him from Michigan fans when he genuinely seems to only want to compete.
Yea that had to have put a damper on his weekend. Well you live and you learn, and I'm sure he has learned to watch what he tweets.
Learn to not be a kid, because the trolling "adults" are gonna flip out on him, if they interpret the wrong thing.
It's unfortunate isn't it... This is similar to how celebrities have to watch what they say around paparazzi. These recruits are getting way too much attention at such a young age.
Isn't there a story in Three and Out about Gardner being disappointed he didn't get any sweet (read: illegal) recruiting swag because he committed to Michigan before taking any SEC trips?
There's a story about either him or Denard being offered "extra benefits" by Florida I believe (Urb)
Gardner was less envious than surprised about what Denard was offered (given that my bias that our guys are all honest maybe making me remember that way).
Good luck in New York, by the way.
Thanks man. I'm actually in NYC right now, temporarily. Setting up the ol' homestead before moving up here in a few weeks.
And I think you're right. I seem to remember the story being something like a bunch of the southern guys were swapping stories about SEC visits, and Gardner chimed in with some joke about regretting not taking more visits before committing.
Sorry David, I sincerely hope this experience has not jaded you. But being a Wolverine now, and in future years, it seems, means you have to know early.
People just reacted like a bunch of tools.
this is trolling? really? it's becoming harder and harder to post without people misinterpreting what you're saying
Oh boohoo. Why do people care so much about there post scores? MGoNegBomb this post now! GO!!!
you're probably right lol. never mind
you're probably right lol. never mind
So superfluous you had to say it twice. That's redundant on multiple levels...
I also feel bad for Dawson. Having to deal with idiots bombarding his twitter account and some so called michigan fans being morons.
I figured if he wanted to camp at florida then so be it.
I think this is sad. And it is really sad that we do have some fans that want to act like Ohio fans on twitter. This kid is as committed to Michigan as anyone and wanted to go to a CAMP in Florida before his senior year. I have no problem with this and I think this whole thing only hurts Michigan in the future.
But it's very clear the coaches did.
Just because he canceled the trip does not mean it is because of the coaches. It sounded like he was planning to cancel before he talked with them. None of us have any idea what took place in that conversation. It is just as likely that he canceled to stop folks from sending him idiotic messages.
I get the sentiment, but it's common knowledge that our coaches don't consider you a commit once you visit another school. So I'm reasonably sure how that conversation went. Likely a "let me make sure you know what you are getting yourself into" type talk.
to let him know he was going to the Florida camp. Now we read he cancels--coincidence? Highly doubtful
I wouldn't have blaimed him either way, I think it's best for him to do what he feels is best for him. That being said, I'm glad for my own selfish reasons that he feels staying committed to Michigan is what is best for him. He is a good player, and while no one recruit is going to kill the program, he really appears to be a recruit that will help the program, and it's great to see him staying on board.
Also, I feel this shoves the bullshit right back in the face of the so-called "Michigan fans" that were calling him out on twitter or blogs or whatever. Those people really need to get over themselves, and while all fanbases have those fans, it's embarrassing that they were so outspoken for Michigan (though it wasn't necessarily unexpected from my point of view). People want to hate on Magnus, but it's not fans like Magnus that piss off recruits, it's the ones that tweet the recruits whenever they freek out about something stupid. So I'm glad those asshole fans get to eat shit (assuming this means completely Dawson stays aboard, which appears to be the case, but either way those fans can eat it).
Though I have defended him at times in the past (other times I just back away slowly).
I just think he gets a lot of shit around here, and he only deserves it some of the time. People freak about what he wrote about LTT and Dawson as if that's may determine where these kids go to school. I tend to agree with his LTT review (lots of potential, still a raw prospect) and disagree with his Dawson one, and that's fine, people can have different opinions. But people writing their honest opinion based on a limited amount of data on a blog won't determine what a recruit chooses to do. Now if he tweeted one of them and told them that he thinks they aren't worthy of scholarship, then yeah, I have a problem with that. I think people need to realize where the line is and take people's opinions as what they are, opinions.
I personally find it nice to have different opinions on recruits and see how they measure up to my own, and I appreciate that Magnus actually gives a thoughtful opinion rather than just blowing a bunch of hot air. In the end I think the coaches know more than any of us here because they have more at their disposal, but even many high quality coaches have differing opinions on these kids, and just because someone has a different opinion than Michigan's coaches doesn't mean they should be chastised.
I appreciate the support, however lukewarm. As you say, lots of people have differing opinions on these guys. I respect other people's opinions as long as they have valid rationale, and that's all I expect in return.
I go to Touch the Banner every morning at 7:00 AM to begin my workday. I honestly don't understand the hate that Magnus gets.
Why is providing an honest appraisal ever a bad thing? I really look forward to seeing what Magnus says because 1) he seems to be objective instead of simply considering that every single recruit has the potential to be the next Woodson 2) he is a coach, which means he knows more about football, especially the fundamentals, than probably all of us, and 3) he is comfortable expressing his true views instead of just saying what people want to hear.
Is the worry that recruits will read his blog and dislike Michigan and go elsewhere? I have to believe that coaches, teammates, family, etc. will take up well over 99.99% of a recruit's decsion, not a blogger on the internet. I think this is just irrational.
Obviously, people who actively tweet recruits are not ok, but comparing what Magnus does to what those people do is simply comparing apples to oranges.
Thanks. And I agree that people shouldn't be afraid that comments like mine will scare recruits away. I've been making the same kinds of critical comments for a few years now, and we currently have the #1 recruiting class in the country.
Also, according to Magnus, Mike Cox could've been a Heisman winner and JT Floyd didn't show much improvement last season.
Mike Cox should have won three Heismans.
Or at least an AVN award.
David Dawson's going to be one heck of a Michigan Man. Now let's leave him alone and let him enjoy his summer like everyone else.
Common sense and decency on the Internet?
We had that 200 post discussion about it, and a thread on who we should get to replace him, and the post telling people to stop with people defending the value of following recruits tweets...
I obviously can't defend the people who were calling him out on Twitter or whatever...
...but if Brady Hoke indeed put the kibosh on Dawson's Florida visit, then I think the 200-ish post thread was somewhat relevant. If the coaches didn't mind, then the visit would probably still be happening. So when the alarm bells went off in some of our heads, it was probably warranted (although, like I said, some people apparently crossed the line).
I don't think Hoke reads MGoBlog or that the thread influenced him. I just think all those people saying "It's just a camp, no big deal, don't overreact" weren't really grasping the significance of the trip.
Agree 100%. If it wasn't a big deal, he'd still be headed down there. My question is, people keep referring to fans bashing him and going after him, but I haven't seen much of that. In the 200+ post freakout thread it seemed like most were just expressing disappointment at possibly losing him, along with questions as to how the coaches would handle it (a clear compliment) with very few (but admittedly rude/stupid) 'we don't need him' or 'he's so immature' posts. Where is all the bashing people keep talking about? Maybe I just missed a bunch of posts that got deleted or something...
I guess people were accosting him on Twitter, but I didn't bother to look for it and I don't follow Dawson on Twitter.
In the mod thread Misopogon said he ban hammered a number of posters.
But overblown. How about people wait, oh, 24 hours before freaking out over a TWEET and see how it plays out. 200 posts over him decommiting? Still overblown over one guy, but understandable. It's all old news a day later. Instant media means instant stupidity. I mean we had a post using your recruiting data trying to figure out who we could get to REPLACE him. Over a tweet. Hey, if it got you more page hits, good end result, particularly yesterday, since you didn't start it.
20, 30 posts of "wonder what's going to happen" is what this rated. The rest is just fanbases showing that instead of people thinking they're all stupid they have to say something and remove all doubt. It's going to be a top five great class. We'll lose a guy or two, gain a guy or three. No one is the number 1 player in the country. About the only guy who would truly be a big deal would be Shane. And at this point that would be quite the...twist. Recruiting is a numbers game. And the same people who are going to freak out over maybe losing a guy are going to be forgetting or criticizing him when he's a freshman, looking for him to be replaced by the next great potential recruit. Worry when our class is #15. There are no worries when it's #5. (Or better)
Site hits aside, I really don't think it's a big deal that a thread of "Who might replace him?" popped up. That's sports talk for you. It's full of what-ifs. You wouldn't bat an eyelash if you saw a thread saying "If Miguel Cabrera leaves via free agency, who could we get to play 3rd base?" I don't know why this should elicit a different response.
The situation is totally different. A blog doesn't really have that much influence on, say, baseball players. They're older, more secure (Albert Belle as a conspicuous exception), and getting paid money to play.
Now contrast that with a 17-year-old kid who's deciding where to go to college and play. He's not getting paid, so all financial considerations (such as those that Cabrera might have) are gone. It's all about the team, fanbase, and how the recruit feels. They're uber-sensative to whispers about them because they're that age and the power differential is really screwed up on a number of different levels.
TL;DR: Teenagers are very often insecure, and so vibes of rejection on a place as prominent as this one can be harmful.
"Who could replace him if he leaves?" is a fair discussion, regardless of a kid's feelings. If he's too sensitive to handle a discussion like that, he's too sensitive, period.
"Good riddance, this kid is a prima donna!" is not a fair discussion.
This is the internet. The former inevitably turns into the latter, to some extent or another.
That seems like an issue to be addressed to the wayward posters. Immature posters are going to be immature. You can go to any newspaper's website, read an innocuous article, and see people calling each other names in the comments section. That doesn't mean the article shouldn't be posted. It means there are idiots in the world, and they should be ignored or banned from posting.
I'm really glad Dawson is staying committed, I really think the kid is going to be a special player. As for the twitter idiots, I wish they would start rooting for Ohio where they could blend into the crowd.
Well that answers our question about whether school-sponsored camps are considered camps or visits. Clearly the best thing to do if you're a recruit and interested in something like this is pick up the phone and run it by your position coach at UM. I may be wrong, but I think that recruits can always call the coaches -- the dead periods apply only to coaches calling recruits.
David Dawson is a tough young man. He handled his business and put this thing to bed fast.
He'll be a star at Michigan and beyond.
Got me some high hopes for that interior offensive line in a couple years. Him n Kugler should be a wall.
All it took was one look:
And Dawson reconsidered. :-)
(I'd love to have heard what was said between Dawson and the coaches. My sense is there were no harsh words or veiled threats ... just, 'Son, we'd rather you didn't.' ... and that's all that was needed.)
He looks like his name should be Wolfgang.
Glad this is done with. Honestly, this was the first time I have not wanted to come on mgoblog over this twitter debate mostly surrounding Dawson.
I agree with Magnus that it was a significant piece of news but at the same time everyone freaking out about it and bombarding him on twitter isn't either.
Personally I'm glad to hear the news, but the way some people reacted to this was absolutely buckeyeian. Most people on this board probably read the story about the tragedy involving Dawson's father. But the people who were all upset about his "reported" trip to Florida, keep in mind this a 17yr old kid who lost his father only a few weeks ago. He should be getting nothing but support from everyone who supports the Maize and Blue, regardless of whether or not he wants to visit another school.
...is really the only thing to talk about. Best wishes and thoughts to David and his family, and glad that he's a part of the Michigan family.
Wasnt Dawson's ticket already bought? That would suck.
Yeah, that's what he said. And airlines aren't known for giving refunds...