GoBlueSimon

October 4th, 2014 at 7:03 AM ^

Even if it turns out to be false, the only way to prove it is by going through Dave Brandon's emails to find her email and his response (if there is a response), which Dave Brandon doesn't want because God knows what else we'd find if we went through his email.

MichiganStudent

October 4th, 2014 at 7:50 AM ^

One of my good friends is on the dance team and she told me that DB came to their practice 2 nights ago and gave a speech about student athlete safety being top priority and that DB and Hoke are great people and the things being said about them are not true. The dance team needs to back the AD and football team and show their support on social media or in public when they can.



She told me that it sounded like a lecture and that she was certain that he did this for other teams in our AD.



Some of the support for DB we've been seeing from student athletes on social media is most likely a product of these efforts.



I can't say that I blame him as this is a logical method to show that he has the support of the AD and student athletes but it bothers me that he's using his power as AD (most powerful individual in the dept) to ask for support from the students. I don't want to call it coercion but my dance team friend told me she felt pressured to show some support and I don't think that's right.

UMForLife

October 4th, 2014 at 8:32 AM ^

Oh man. It sounds like something that could have happened. I will believe it. While on the surface it sounds ok to discuss with students and boost the morale, it sounds self serving.

You can address the football team and boost the morale. Why talk to the dance team? Did someone boo them? No Sir. We booed and rallied against the AD. So, the AD is going around and telling the teams that he is not that bad.

He is stooping down to this level. Unbelieveable.

Leadership: You don't ask for support and respect. You earn it. You are blowing it DB.

123blue

October 4th, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^

I guess it seems natural that many athletes from non-revenue sports would support DB.  Frankly, with regard to raking in donations and funding non-revenue sports, he's done a good job.  The problem is that his massive (sponsored-by-someone-shitty) ego got in the way, making him think his terrible ideas were great with regard to event production.  Would anyone be so upset with him but for all his nonsense (tickets, music, uniforms, skywriting, student seating) with football?  DB has no one to blame but himself (and his poor taste) for his current problems.

JamieH

October 4th, 2014 at 11:15 AM ^

This is how things work in his world.  Use your power to coerce the people underneath you to kiss your ass.  That's how things have always worked in Dave Brandon's world. 

 

That's why he fired everyone in the Athletic Department who had been there for a long time--they refused to bend over backwards to kiss his ring.

LSAClassOf2000

October 4th, 2014 at 8:01 AM ^

Could we also give Brandon Laugh-In's Flying Fickle Finger Of Fate Award as an appropriate booby prize (1960s TV strictures prevented this from being the finger they wanted up, of course)?

Leonhall

October 4th, 2014 at 8:23 AM ^

what this place is going to be like if Brandon isn't fired? Or if we win like 1-2 more games, get blown out by MSU and OSU, miss a bowl, and Brandon has a press conference stating Hoke will be extended. I have a feeling that this site may get shut down. Or there may be a LOT of ERROR MESSAGES. I'm preparing for it, maybe that will lessen the blow...

Felix.M.Blue

October 4th, 2014 at 8:40 AM ^

even WTKA. Like when they go over games or press conferences. I think people already don't believe anything the coaches say.

I don't buy that "this is the bottom" at all.

Leon, what you describe...that's the real bottom.

It would be like getting a text from Chris Rainey.

Bando Calrissian

October 4th, 2014 at 8:50 AM ^

And this is why that thread about the email probably shouldn't have stayed up. As much as I enjoy watching DB get skewered, it should be for things that can actually be verified/put in proper context.

pearlw

October 4th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^

Agreed...Especially considering just two nights prior that WD ranted about Brandon forcing the SAAC to write that piece supporting Brandon..and then the next day WD said he talked to some people and found out they were definitely not encouraged at all to do this and did it completely in their own. Just two days prior WD had demonstrated that he would make accusations without any idea if they were true.



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User -not THAT user

October 4th, 2014 at 9:12 AM ^

...politically speaking he's not my cup of tea and that's all I'll say about that, but he is one of the more genuinely talented personalities on the ESPN roster. 

Boy, if that e-mail turns out to be bogus...

Say, does MGoBlog have a "DISAVOWED" gallery of shame?

Wolverine Devotee

October 4th, 2014 at 9:12 AM ^

This is a pretty dumb move by ESPN. 

As far as I know, it's not confirmed. I handed off to Ace yesterday and he talked to my friend via Text and that's the last I heard. He did make an edit in the original thread. 

Bando Calrissian

October 4th, 2014 at 9:51 AM ^

And no one should be posting emails they didn't actually receive, the veracity of which they can't verify, which in time were exposed to have been posted months ago in a context different than originally claimed.

This isn't just on ESPN. We need to do better around here. Brian has done a great job building a site with a lot of credibility; this kind of crap doesn't contribute to that. You can't expect the mods to do your legwork for you--if you're not sure about something, don't post it. Once it's on the internet, you can't take it back.

meatchoke

October 4th, 2014 at 10:04 AM ^

Well, if anything this just emphasizes how nothing can be taken seriously in the news world. Does this message board come with a code of conduct? A terms of service that state anything posted needs to be fact? Satire not allowed? A anonymous message board is simple that - this is a fan site, nothing more, nothing less.I think the backlash to wd is way overblown here - but to be honest, maybe that's just a Michigan fan thing.



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Bando Calrissian

October 4th, 2014 at 10:11 AM ^

Satire? What in this entire story has been presented as satire?

Yes, this message board does come with a code of conduct. And, yes, MGoBlog does have an ethics statement:

http://mgoblog.com/content/offical-ethics-mgoblog

Pertinent portion:

 

Assertions that could be damaging to a person or group's reputation will be made carefully. Ran across this with the Scout/Rivals/Myron Rolle/MSM bitching stuff. Allegations were made against both sites in separate articles which I quoted and commented on. Both sites categorically denied the accusations levelled, and I posted those, too, in separate posts that hit the top of the blog. In a separate incident, I misidentified a former recruit who had led Michigan on and then laughed about it in an extremely douche-y fashion. That got a separate update as well.

 

Muttley

October 4th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^

The Gell-Mann Amnesia effect:

Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.

http://baseballcrank.com/archives2/2008/11/politicspop_cul_5.php

TIMMMAAY

October 4th, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^

It was a dumb move by you, kiddo, the mods should've taken it down (or better yet, you should have never posted it). ESPN just continued that track. 

Quit trying to get so much attention and shit like this (and TC3 Media/ MGoVideo debacle) wouldn't happen. Wisen up. 

123blue

October 4th, 2014 at 9:20 AM ^

I generally like Olbermann but he made a number of mistakes in that piece, none of which are the responsibility of Brian or WD.  Keith called Mgoblog, "the" Michigan fan blog.  That makes it sound as if it's official (and UofM endorsed).  As we all know, this is "a" Michigan fan blog and not a UofM product.  Then, for anyone who was in the news business to attribute a blog comment by one user to the blog itself as "reported by"; not so well done Keith.

In any event, accuracy of reporting aside...fuck it...It's not like Brandon has been accurate in the past, so I guess he deserves it.  Should I ever see DB in a bar, I'd love to send him a drink...whatever's on special (or maybe two cokes).

M-Dog

October 4th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^

He does not "deserve" this.

He has done plenty on his own where he will get to eat what he cooked.

He does not "deserve" blatant journalistic fraud just because we don't like him.  Because if it can happen to him, it can just as easily happen to somebody we do like.

TIMMMAAY

October 4th, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^

 Keith called Mgoblog, "the" Michigan fan blog.  That makes it sound as if it's official (and UofM endorsed).

That's a pretty disingenuous statement right there. He was giving context to what MGoBlog is. By saying "the Michigan fan blog MGoBlog", he's merely describing what MGo is, not at all saying or implying that it's an official site in any way. Think it through again.