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November 15th, 2010 at 12:23 AM | Brandon is the man and could (Score:1)
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Brandon is the man and could possibly be the best hire for Michigan in a long time.

Me fail english thats unpossible!

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:28 AM | Dave Brandon... (Score:1)
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On the fifth night—possibly the sixth—a breeze arose.
It was cool and dewy.

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:31 AM | Hopefully a coaching search (Score:1)
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Hopefully a coaching search isn't required in the near future, just saying I feel much more secure with DB at the helm of of the athletic dept than Bill Martin.

Martin may have been the architect of the Big House renovations, but his coaching search after Lloyd Carr retired was a complete cluster f*&K.  

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:40 AM | Clusterf**k is actually his middle name (Score:1)
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And John Navarre is going shopping... - Keith Jackson

All in favor of washing Fitzgerald's jersey in olive oil...

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:58 AM | im still pissed about martin (Score:1)
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im still pissed about martin shoving students around for doing their job.  cant help but wonder how much this accelerated his departure.  boy did that ever get swept under the rug.

re-signing beilein until day after forever wasnt particularly swift either...

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November 15th, 2010 at 8:39 AM | ow much this accelerated his departure. (Score:1)
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Martin had made his intentions to stay for only a limited number of years very well known, so his exit was not forced or accelerated. What he did was no worse than Bo physically shoving the Michigan Daily reporter in 1979.

It still was inexcusable, though, and out of character for a guy who otherwise always seemed pretty self-effacing.


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November 15th, 2010 at 10:39 AM | Agree with Don 100% (Score:1)
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Have met Martin several times and he always had time to talk and was never anything but attentive and interested.  We will never know the full story on what happened.  We do know that he apologized.  

I would not let a regrettable and minor incident tarnish a man that did so much for our program.

Wolverine Nation Unite!

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November 15th, 2010 at 11:17 AM | happy to unite with the (Score:1)
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happy to unite with the wolverine nation, but "bill martin was awesome" is not my rallying cry.

i know a few athletes that have had some very critical things to say about bill, and frankly had he held himself to the same stadard he holds michigan student-athletes, he would have resigned immediately.

again, we don't know the details of what happened precisely because this was swept under the rug.  that doesnt make it better, but rather worse.  

and many apologies sir, but i cannot disagree with you more in ever characterizing any university administrator using physical force against a student as a "minor incident."  that should be an instant dismissal, end of story.

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November 15th, 2010 at 2:08 PM | Were some of those athletes (Score:1)
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Were some of those athletes on the basketball team?  I know there was frustration there over a reluctance to spend to upgrade facilities. 

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November 15th, 2010 at 11:18 AM | my understanding was that he (Score:1)
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my understanding was that he originally announced his departure date for september 2010, then left many months earlier.  am i missing something?  was it simply the announcement of a capabale replacement that obviated his need for staying longer?

 

i wasnt aware of bo shoving a kid in '79.  that's equally reprehensible in my book, but i cant speak too much for society and cultural norms back then as i didnt really experince much of the 70s.  i can say that reflecting back on how and why moeller left the program, i would have thought these circumstances would've qualified as cause for termination.

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November 15th, 2010 at 1:21 PM | I think Martin wanted to (Score:1)
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I think Martin wanted to leave earlier than September, but realized he had to give the University time to find a capable replacement. Once Brandon was in place, Martin saw no need to keep working, except for giving Brandon advice if he needed it.

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:35 AM | Nicely formatted post, even (Score:1)
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Nicely formatted post, even with the video issues. I love Brandon as our AD and think he is the right guy for the job. The future is bright, and that is a future with Rich Rod at the helm.

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November 15th, 2010 at 1:14 AM | Agree completely. (Score:1)
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Thanks for the post MGoShoe, and the way it was presented. That is good journalism, assuming that's not a slam these days. Good job.

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:36 AM | Brandon (Score:1)
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The tone this guy is setting will impact the football program immensely. He is not only smart, he is wise. If he makes a coaching change, it will be the exact right thing to do. If not, same.

"That's some catch, that Catch-22," he observed.

"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka agreed.

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:43 AM | Tribute to Bo (Score:1)
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I love how he remembers his days with Bo and respects him.

Michigan man through and through

" I tell people I graduated from the Bo Schembechler school of leadership"

GMAT score =800 = Defensive POTY

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:44 AM | There is something (Score:1)
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so classy and intelligent about Brandon. Media people are so fucking stupid when it comes to sensationalizing every little thing and it is great to see him put them in their place even if they don't realize they are being owned. Do any media outlets do any research or know any facts before they run with stories about M athletics of any kind? I know this is venting and not exactly relevant to Crain's but ESPN and the like have gotten way out of control. Who gives a shit what Brett Favre had for breakfast or which of his teammates came to give him a tug, report some real, credible, original sports news for god's sake.

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November 15th, 2010 at 1:36 AM | The media aren't stupid.  (Score:1)
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The media aren't stupid.  They know sensationalism sells.  It's the readership/viewership that is stupid for paying attention to it.

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:45 AM | Nice Post...I cannot wait for (Score:1)
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Nice Post...I cannot wait for the new Scoreboards in the Big House...that will just take it over the top!

Life's a game of Inches

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November 15th, 2010 at 1:24 AM | Is there any wonder... (Score:1)
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he was CEO of Dominos and engineered/orchestrated a complete turn-around of that company and its product?

I like where he's looking to head and I am thrilled for the future of our athletic department with him at the helm.

 

 

Also... this is Diary worthy... Mods... what say yee?

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November 15th, 2010 at 12:54 AM | Talks about how Bo never won (Score:1)
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Talks about how Bo never won a national championship, at one point was 1-6 in bowl games

Actually, Bo was once 0-7 in bowls.  He never won one in the 1970s. 

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November 15th, 2010 at 8:11 AM | '70s (Score:1)
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I don't think many people realize that.

Michigan and OSU were horrible in bowls in the '70s.  I'm not sure about the rest of the conference.  Up until '75/'76 (?) the conference allowed only one team to go bowling.

"..."

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November 15th, 2010 at 9:45 AM | Edited to... (Score:1)
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...account for Brandon's error.

LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe

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November 15th, 2010 at 1:12 AM | i truly wonder sometimes if (Score:1)
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i truly wonder sometimes if we do not have the best AD in the country.  old-school Bo lineage, fortune 500 experience, and maybe best of all -- a former regent... we are really fortunate to have this guy, and perhaps moreso when you consider what he walked away from to take the job.

 

no matter how conflicted i ever feel about whether to fire or keep RR (and ill admit ive regularly considered both options), i feel like brandon is the perfect guy to make the decision, and im confident he'll make the right choice regardless of what it may be.  we've got the right guy with the right experience there to make the call.  and frankly as optimistic as i get at times -- with denards success, a few big commitments, and the occasional victory -- it's cause of DB that i honestly beieve one way or another we will climb back to dominance.

 

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November 15th, 2010 at 2:20 AM | Agreed (Score:1)
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I have 100% confidence in DBs decision making.

Every time I hear him on the radio, just the mere tone of his voice says,

"I've got everything under control - don't worry - sleep well tonight, knowing I already know the answers to the questions I will be asked tomorrow."

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November 15th, 2010 at 8:31 AM | Unless David Brandon is executing a massive head-fake worthy (Score:1)
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of both an Oscar and a Heisman, his comments make it abundantly clear that he is not going to fire RR, regardless of what happens against Wisky and OSU. The only scenario that could lead to letting RR go after this season would be if he pulls a Woody Hayes and punches an opposing player or some serious NCAA-level scandal erupts.

Thanks for the link, Shoe.


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November 15th, 2010 at 9:59 AM | Agreed (Score:1)
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This along with the radio interview last week where he said he doesn't pay attention to boosters, alumni, etc. in making his hiring/firing decisions means that he gets it -- he's not going to fire RR.  And frankly, at 7-3, according to the MGoBlog polls, the demand for his head is minimal.

"I call that Communist football. I'm so tired of it. Good, red-blooded Americans snap the ball, hand it to the guy and have a normal run game or pass game."

—Steve Szabo, Michigan linebackers coach, November 2007

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November 15th, 2010 at 10:10 AM | the demand for his head is minimal. (Score:1)
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I would bet that if you scratched below the surface of those vociferously complaining about our victories against Illinois and Purdue, you're likely to find a Jim Harbaugh fan privately disappointed that we won those games.


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November 15th, 2010 at 9:49 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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It's quite shocking that the AD did not have any priority in marketing itself and did not even have a business plan. Isn't that Business 101? Anyway I'm glad we have Brandon, especially with the current issues facing the football program

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November 15th, 2010 at 2:18 PM | Maybe not that surprising (Score:1)
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The idea of having business people rather than sports people run the athletic department is still a relatively new idea, historically speaking.  It's only in the last 10, maybe 15 years that many schools have started going this route, and a lot of schools still haven't: former football coach Barry Alvarez is still AD at Wisconsin, for example, and former hockey coach Ron Mason was AD at MSU until 2008.  Remember too that the athletic department is just one part of the University as a whole, and public universities aren't exactly run the way Fortune 500 companies are.  Mary Sue Coleman is a professor by trade, not a CEO.  So yes, it may be "Business 101," but the emphasis here isn't on the "101" part (i.e. this is so basic, how could they miss it) but the "Business" part (i.e. are they actually running the show the way a business is run).

The idea that we haven't focused on marking is also not that shocking.  How many Michigan fans do you know who feel that "It's Michigan; it markets itself!"  But I agree with you -- I'm glad they're starting to focus on this now, and it does seem that Dave Brandon is exactly what the doctor ordered.

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November 15th, 2010 at 5:09 PM | Wholeheartedly agree... (Score:1)
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While B. Martin did many good things for the Michigan athletic department - getting it in the black from a roughly $5 mil deficit, provided the ability to finance major facilities renovations that not only got us up the the norm but helped raise the bar in college athletics, and distancing the athletic department from the scandal that tarnished the overall department rep in the late 90s - he was not the best in other aspects of the job. I always felt like his background in banking led to a numbers-based approached versus using numbers as a part of a higher-level whole. (I won't get into my disdain for scheduling teams that are a no-win situation because they perform much better than their brand-value, like Utah and App State.)

I believe DB is taking that to the next step by applying media relations, marketing, and performance in addition to the numbers, just like a true CEO would. The point made by ducatidoc is also a reason I believe DB will make the right choice regarding RichRod - he has the relationships and clout with boosters and the Michigan administration (not to mention his personal financial situation) to allow him to make the decision he feels is best for the program - without allowing politics or external pressure to play into his decision. Heck, he technically used to be Mary Sue Coleman's boss as President of the Board of Trustees.

I'm very confident with him at the helm. Every time I hear him speak or read an article about him, I always come off more impressed than before. GO BLUE!

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November 15th, 2010 at 11:06 AM | Thanks for this, MGoShoe. I feel rejuvinated. (Score:1)
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There is a new strength at the top.  It will not be for lack of Mr. Brandon's leadership if Michigan does not quickly rise to the top.

If you have read any of my (many) posts regarding tOSU program, you know that I believe they are the template for successful programs of the future.  I do not know the Texas program as well, but I think it would be a worthy model to look at as well.

Not copy, just look at.

Wolverine Nation Unite!

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November 15th, 2010 at 10:29 AM | The fact that (Score:1)
michimoby
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Bill Martin was able to push through an extraordinarily sophisticated -- and, from all preliminary assessments, successful -- stadium and athletic campus overhaul without a business plan for his "company" (that being the Department) is remarkable. 

I know that Martin is getting hacked on here a little bit, and some for justified reasons, so I shall offer one counter-point: Tom Goss.  In hindsight, we've been very, very fortunate to have consistently good Department leadership throughout two recessions and several NCAA investigations in the 2000's.  Even through all of this, we have perhaps the most robust coaching staff in the country if you consider the entire spectrum of Michigan athletics.

This isn't an attempt to discount DB's pimp-handedness, rather to ensure that Martin gets some credit where it's due.

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November 15th, 2010 at 11:28 AM | Giving people their due (Score:1)
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While we may all have our own thoughts about hiring decisions of the coaching staff, it is hard to argue that under Bill Martin's reign the physical facilities were not improved. The stadium renovation done while we were still using the stadium is a feat which is much underrated and underappreciated. The new look fits quite nicely with the neighborhood and area and keeps the original low profile look of the bowl from Yost's time. Dave Brandon in contrast may not be a "building guy" so his strengths may be in personnel decision. He is an inspiring speaker. I had the opportunity to hear him speak before our alumni group and he was terrific; really gave us all hope that things are heading in the right direction. If you have the chance to go to a talk by him, please do so, it would be worth your time.

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November 15th, 2010 at 11:49 AM | This was a great read, thanks 'Shoe. (Score:1)
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The new CMO position and the priority of a clear business plan are great examples of DB understanding the importance of the Michigan brand. He would probably have made this move regardless of the current climate, but the timing here is awesome.

Right after the NCAA findings, he will coordinate and launch what I anticipate to be a solid campaign of positive promotion for Michigan. You can see that the aggressive negativity towards the program from the Freep has really clarified the importance of correcting this wrong doing, and DB it going to take up this cause with vigor.

Michigan couldn't be in better hands.

"He stood there like the house by the side of the road, and watched that one go by"

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