Those things must hurt!
that's unfortunate, but at least the interest is there on both sides
Those things must hurt!
That's some crazy thinking there. Lets see. You don't want Peppers now because he had the audacity to consider taking other visits. To you that doesn't show grit? What?
I don't want slow, less talented players that have grit as their greatest strength. I want electric, fast, über talented players like Peppers here. If gives us a better chance to win Championships.
What I said was if he decides to go elsewhere because of the road ahead looking tough, we're better off. I get that you think it's all about talent, and it is true that you need talented guys to win in the B1G. However if we fill our team up with talented guys who don't posses the right character, the talent won't be as much of a factor. That's just my opinion, but I've seen a ton a teams with big time talent that never translated into wins. How many players from North Carolina in the last 7 years have gone to the NFL? How many ACC championships did they win? Zero. What do I know though? I'm just a guy on a blog.
Peppers is from New Jersey. He does not have a life long love of Michigan where he feels the need to stick with the program out of dogged loyalty because the "road ahead is looking tough".
He is just trying to do what's best for him and his future. He has other options. That does not make him a bad character guy.
I am not from Michigan, and knew little about the school before I attended it. I chose it because it was in the top ten in the program that I was interested in. If soemthing would have happened to the program that changed that, I would have gone somewhere else. I had other options. That would not have made me a bad character guy.
For the record, I think the tempest has passed and both Hoke and Peppers will be here next season.
All I know is that I'd like to see a pre-Madonna.
Would bitching about bitching fall into that category?
Mattison may be doing a better job than Borges- but many teams have had above average yards against our D this year. And if OSU puts up 30+ on Saturday do people really think getting rid of Borges is the solution? My guess is OSU will score a lot in the first half, before Mattison's guys are tired and people can blame Borges' offense for the D. Hoke is impacting the team in an undesirable way and he will never win the B10. I am not sure if it is due to softness, favoritism, lack of emotion- but he is casting a shadow IMO.
The full humor of this didn't hit me until I remembered that Koger is a grad assistant on the current team.
When Koger and Martin originally committed to Lloyd...
And Martin formally decommitted after LC resigned and RR had to beat out ND and MSU in order to get Martin to commit to UM.
is basically and adolescent with an executive job.
Ain't it grand!!
It's sad that our AD is a joke, and that they are more concerned about "their way" than with the overall success of the program. Dave Brandon had to have HIS guy and make HIS stamp on the program at the end of 2010. Hoke stubbornly supports Borges while Borges stubbornly runs a predictable offense that regresses. Both guys poo poo the spread offense.
I wish we had coaches who were really willing to take some blame for the program. I also wish our AD wasn't a money loving d-bag.
football games. It's also sad that people cannot understand why Rodriguez was fired in thre first. Disasterously bad defenses and specials teams with an offense that was largely impotent versus good teams.
Hoke is not stubbornly supporting Borges. What he IS doing is not embarrassing the man. Apparently you think a leader should embarrass his subordinates in public. What a guy you are!
If Borges does get fired, is there any chance we could lure Jim McElwain from CSU to UM?
Why would he come down to being an OC again?
Al drives everyone around the bend repeatedly running into a 9-man box, or has his QB take seven-step drops when your line can't hold, run back-to-back reverses and refusal to throw short slants with Funches etc etc is because he cannot play-call. His play selection is as if while going through his voluminous playbook he just randomly selects a play for whatever reason without any rhyme or reason and thought to down and situation,
If I can see it on TV surely the opposing team's DC can see it. If you ask Al to design an O-scheme he can, but in game play calling - going from theoretical scheme to real game situations - is atrocious. Al is like the basketball coach who can't adjust during the game - great schemes and basketball IQ, but comes the game and he's a disaster - that's Al.
Recall Fisher - great recruiter but his in-game play calling and managment left you wondering what was he thinking.
GO BLUE! - BEAT OHIO!
Hoke is a good figurehead. A good recruiter. He says the right things. Does the right things. Writes hand written notes.
He is going nowhere and I have no problem with that. He relies heavily on his OC to make the right decisions. I'm...not...sure...that's....working.
I feel bad for Borgess and Funk because if we had a bunch of upperclassmen playing oline, they may look like geniuses and be playing for a Big Ten title right now. Unfortunately, we NEED our coordinator to pull rainbows out of his ass and he hasn't done it yet. Usually that means they will look for someone who can.
I'm good either way. If Borgess stays I have no doubt he is smart enough to make it work.
If they grab someone new that's fine too. Whatever they do...I want a MEAN, NASTY, bunch of badasses that want to pancake the hell out of sparty and Ohio for the next ten years.
In some professions/situations delegating is good. But why pay 3+ million to a guy whose best decision will be who to make coordinator. If that's what DB wanted he could have paid a lot less and spent more on staff although having the 3rd highest paid OC doesn't seem to be the answer either.
When I think of figurehead coaches I think of whomever occupies the position in Dallas or with the Raiders. Does that make DB the meddling owner?
I don't understand why people are ok with a head coach of Michigan that is very highly paid, being a "figurehead".
This truly boggles my mind.
I don't understand why it's OK to reduce Hoke as a coach as simply being a "figurehead"? What an insult to the man and his job.
There's no way you, me, or any other fan can possibly make that evaluation. Hoke's day-to-day coaching is probably extremely hands on, and I bet you a dollar that every player on that team would take offense to someone characterizing (cariacaturing?) him as simply a "figurehead coach".
He compares Saban year 1 to Hoke year three, then talks about Harbaugh's progress, which looks a heck of a lot more like Rich Rod's than Hoke's.
My biggest complaint is DB name dropped Bo, Mo, and Lloyd in the First paragraph......for the love of god can we stop looking in the rear view mirror. Can DB please turn the page of the 1970's? Continuously referring to the glory days of yesteryear doesn't have jack squat to do with today's game.
Ohio State has a pretty solid football tradition with Woody and even Tressel. But they seem just fine with hiring an elite coach in Meyer and letting him coach his way. Even though his schemes are not just a rehash of what Woody and Tressel did.
They are *gasp* betraying their own DNA. And they are winning.
But he does run primarily a spread offense.
Did you know his clause also mentioned Michigan.
Wasn't Notre Dame his dream job?
It's sad that you cannot stop trashing Rich Rod. We get it, you think he was terrible. (For what its worth, his impotent offense in year three was far more effective than the current one.). He's not the cause of every problem the program is currently dealing with. Enough already.
Whoops. That comment was supposed to respond to one of SQ's.
That tells me Borges is gone unless they win the next two. It also tells me unfortunately that DB is going to ride out Hoke until the whole thing collapses and the next coach will have to start all over
They largely are a disciplined bunch that plays hard and plays clean. I don't understand the anti-Hoke feelings. Certainly there are aspects that need to be improved(offense), but his teams are much better then why RR gave us in two of the three aspects of the game.
Exactly. Disciplined, clean teams that play hard. That says 8-4 or 9-3 not National Titles or even Rose Bowls. Outside of Stanford none of the top teams you would describe that way. DB needs to let go of this "michigan way" bullcrap and find a guy like Meyer with some of the SEC stink still on him. Need a guy thats going to lead some badass hoodlums that are going to fly around making plays and knock people out
So you're not the brightest... it'll be alright. The poor character thing though, that's tougher to overcome.
Lol have fun at 8-4
I'll take 8-4 with class if that is the trade-off. The day we have to start cheating to win is the day I stop following the school I spent 8 years at.
Lemme guess: you've never set foot inside a UM classroom, have you?
about college football players. Some of the best athletes are also really smart guys and really good guys. The idea that someone who plays fast and aggressive on the football field also needs to be a badass hoodlum is prejudicial and borders on the racist.
Also agreed. We often get the assumption around here that guys who play for programs like Michigan State are not that smart, but hard workers. This elides the fact that doing well in school takes hard work, and that often its the same basic drive for self-improvement that leads to excelling in the classroom and on the playing field.
How does it border on racist? Is it because white kids can't be hoodlums? If that is your insinuation, then that is the only moderately racist comment here.
For the record, the comment/poster you're referring to are pretty asinine, so I agree with your overall stance here.
But it shows up an awful lot in comments that are pretty clearly racist (for instance). I should have said somthing like, "you comments could be construed as racist".
But it's better that we not get into this. No politics, etc.
This is good news and bad news.
The bad news: Hoke is Brandon's guy and there is no way Brandon is ever going to admit a mistake on Hoke unless he starts having losing seasons.
The good news: Brandon cares about the bottom line a whole bunch. A bunch of 8-4 seasons won't bring in the attendence to finance Dave's big spending plans. So Brandon will help his guy Hoke be successful by "suggesting" changes to the coaching staff and throwing a bunch of money at whomever they pick.
This is just completely bizarre. Michigan has become a circus, starting with PT Brandon at the head.
UM is the New York Jets of college ball.
... but only by the historical standards we are accustomed to.
We live in a brave new world of social media. I think Brandon is responding to that. I don't mind that he is doing so. This is the age of Twitter and Facebook and blogs and hyperreactive recruiting sites.
Bo Schembechler would never have had any part of anything like this. But as I say, times have changed.
Like others, I am sensitive to the Kremlin-wall aspect of Brandon's trashing Rich Rodriguez by omission. And the startling telegraphing of no confidence in Al Borges. But hell, Brandon fired Rodriguez. Trashing him, by omission in a press release, is now pretty much inconsequential for Rich Rod. Coach Rod is trying to figure out how to beat a good Arizona State team in a rivalry game and get Arizona into the Top 20 and a good bowl game in just about forever. I don't think that Coach Rod has more than about 25 seconds to think about a Dave Brandon press release right now.
I agree with you, Bando. The depth and the detail and the snarkiness of this press release is just as you say; bizarre.
He might just as well have begun it, "Dear Jabrill..."
U know what? How u like the timing of peppers tweeting his other visits? Pretty rotten, no? I mean, if he loves michigan so much then u wait until season over
But I agree with section1 on this. Social media has changed all the rules, and you really have no choice but to respond.
Name me one athletic director in America who does all of the following:
1. Chestbumps players and waits to get an on-camera handshake with the head coach after wins.
2. Watches game film with coaches on Sunday morning, even if they don't want him there or find the exercise useful or convenient.
3. Takes to his blog to essentially personally respond to a recruit's tweet, in turn further insulting a former coach AND pretty much broadcasting he's going to fire the offensive coordinator three days before the Ohio State game. Not to mention coming off as someone who doesn't really understand football, yet really wants to make us believe he knows what he's doing.
I could go on. Yet the fact is Brandon is trying really hard to do all the things he thinks a manager needs to do, but he doesn't realize that these kind of Mickey Mouse tactics come off as cartoonish and amateur when you're working for one of America's most prestigious universities with an athletic tradition to match. This isn't pizza and junk mail. It's Michigan.
Yes, we live in a different world of social media. But you're telling me if someone with the integrity, class, and experience of Don Canham, Fritz Crisler, or Bo were dumped in this situation with Twitter and Facebook and Youtube, they'd come up with what Brandon put out there today? Would those guys hit send on a bizarre, half-baked MGoDiary post about Bama and Stanford?
We're Michigan. It's time our Athletic Director acted like it.