Nice gesture, but if Brandon really cared for the kid, he'd move his family out of God-forsaken Oklahoma
Dave Brandon is a stand-up guy
As a fellow Oklahoman I say... I wish Brandon would offer a way out for all Michigan fanatics in this state. The tragedy that happened to this unfortunate child has forced me to reconsider my loyalty as an Oklahoman and begin rebuilding my resume.
It reminds me of what Nike did during the Olympics when they found out the Egyptian National Team had fake Nike clothing. They happily gave them real Nike gear for free and reaped the positive PR.
They took a situation most people would roll their eyes at and turned into into a PR Gold Medal. Especially clever since they are not an official Olympic sponsor yet it got a ton of coverage. Genius.
Well played Dave Brandon.
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Yeah, at first I thought it was a post on how he was opening for Louis CK.
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HELL, i'm with you. BAN THIS CLOWN!!
Very cool.. and this is one more reason I dislike Oklahoma football..
Exactly. It's a nice sentiment, great for the kid, but the real reason it is happening is not because some great injustice was done. Rather, it's a great PR opportunity that is relatively cheap.
Everything he has done has been great. At least to me. Best AD since Canham IMO.
Come on, everything? I like quite a bit of the stuff he's done, but "everything" seems crazy to me.
You're happy with the Appy State game? You liked hearing Pop Evil instead of the band? How about his suggestion that it's time to move the OSU game to the middle of the season?
Also: Curley Fries at the Winter Classic. Kill it with fire.
We are historically linked to app state FOREVER. Might as well bash their heads in and get some blood flowing to wipe away a losing record to a FCS school. I would maybe even say play them again in 2021 to get the winning record. I was ready for that game the moment it was announced last year.
Pop Evil isn't played during games. I've only heard it before games and after.
And The Game hasn't been moved so I don't see any problem there. I understand where he's coming from, because if they meet in the B1G Championship Game someday, then the importance of that regular season meeting is going to be diminished. Hell, it already has in a way. That isn't his fault, that's the B1G's fault for putting the two in seperate divisions.
Here's the thing: Bashing their heads in doesn't change anything.
Because no matter what, Ohio, MSU, whatever team you want to suggest, will always go back to the time we lost to them when we were ranked #5 in the country.
And all it does is bring up a solid week or two of highlights beforehand showing us losing on that blocked kick.
So yeah it will be nice to beat them - assuming we do... - and extract some miniscule form of revenge, but that small positive doesn't outweigh the negative.
Hold on a minute. I'm against the game myself, but there's only 3 teams that can talk trash about it, Appy State, Oregon, and OSU.
Those are the only teams that beat us that year (I know about Wisconsin, but we weren't starting our main guys on Offense, and '08 shuts them up)
Sure, it will stir some bad memories. But how much national attention will that game garner vs. another preseason game like... Air Force? Along with all the bad stories will be the (better) current day ones, which is a lot better than no one talking about the program.
Then it sounds like you disagree with how he wanted Michigan and OSU in opposite divisions, since that would enable them to play twice (http://www.maizenbrew.com/2010/8/20/1633680/what-becomes-of-the-game-mic...).
How about the bumble bee uniforms? And did you like that we wore pretend throwback home uniforms to one of the most significant games in Michigan Stadium history?
I have a feeling that you'll find a way to justify everything he does, and we just don't think similarly along those lines. I'm not anti-Brandon in every way (love the Hoke hire, think UTL was handled well, like the retired number thing), but I'm far, far away from saying that everything he says and does is perfect.
I didn't really care for the road legacies that much. I think they would have looked better with Maize pants. I can see the point of doing it in the fashion they did though to steal nike and state's thunder. That was probably more an adidas thing to piss off nike and DB just went with it.
Loved the Legacy uniforms worn for UTL and the Sugar Bowl uniforms. The players seemed to also which is what really matters.
The way he has come out and just been aggressive with Michigan in terms of facility plans, the new lacrosse stadium coming in a few years by the Soccer Stadium, the great hires, adding two more varsity teams.
I've never seen this many changes in my lifetime with Michigan, in all sports. And it is for the better. No doubt.
So what is the word on the new lacrosse facilities? Last I heard, it was questionable if there was enough UM-owned land in thaat area, and if there was, would it be tree-coverd wetlands that were protected, too wet to build, or too politically dangerous to clear-cut and drain here in Tree Town. (I love the trees and the team, but I just want to know the facts)
Is something actually in the works?
Yes. Bill Austin, longtime Michigan employee, gives tours of Michigan Stadium and the athletic campus said there are plans being finalized right now for a outdoor lacrosse stadium with FieldTurf and seating of 4,000-6,000.
He said it is going to be in the vicinity of the U-M Soccer Stadium.
If UM beats App St. 100 straight times, nobody will care except for the one time they beat UM at home. Waving UM's proverbial junk around in games like this won't change anything.
Beyond Pop Evil, he also added twitter hashtags to the field, cut down on water access in the stadium, and didn't plan on sending the MMB to Jerryworld for one of the biggest preseason games in recent memory. So no, he isn't batting 1.000 in my book.
I never cared that much about The Game being the last game of the year. UM and OSU will care about beating each other regardless of the time, and the B1G game is more an annoyance than anything else.
I'm not a big fan of that song (or the Arby's sponsorship of the Big Chill), but I don't understand all the angst about the Appalachian game. If we weren't playing them, then realistically we were going to play a MAC team or similar. Now we have a game that we are very likely to win, while also having a storyline behind it. I understand that the game was traumatic for a lot of people (I was in attendance - it wasn't fun), but personally, I'd have more "closure" if we could play them again. I'm not happy being 0-1 against that school.
On the Ohio thing, it's not entirely clear if it was Brandon's preference to play them in midseason or not, but in any event, he let the fans know what was going on and gave them a chance to voice their concerns. He did not have to do that. If he hadn't, the Game would probably be in October now.
I'm also onboard with bringing App State in. When someone is busting you balls about something, you joke along with it to get it to stop. Throwing a hissy fit just ensures the ball busting continues.
I want Appy State on the schedule every 4 years or so myself. Let them come, they earned it. Out of all the smaller schools I want to see come in and collect a paycheck, Appy State is near the top of that list. At least they put up a fight, unlike most of the bodybags. Delware State and its amazing band are welcome as well. Actually maybe we should just rent the band for the game where our opponent declines to bring one.
This idea that we have to get even with those bastards and Michigan must have a winning record against them just seems so petty. They beat us. As much as it sucked, it's an interesting chapter in the history of Michigan football, Appy State football, and college football. I'd like to leave it at that.
That goes both ways. If AppSt wants to play us again and we say "No," wouldn't it make us look bad, like we'd be ducking them?
Obviously, there are two schools on thought on this game. To me, the bottom line is that Brandon has taken a slot in the schedule allotted for a bodybag game and filled it with a fairly interesting opponent. I think that's good. I don't think it's any kind of a blunder on his part.
We'll win, they are not that good without Armanti, it will generate a whole lot more interest than playing Eastern.
Hoke and the players will play their hardest... Only downside is reruns on Sports Center (which I generally avoid anyway).
Please. Please. Please. Stop.
Don't ever take any team lightly. ANY. WE ALL SHOULD KNOW NOT TO TAKE ANY LIGHTLY BY NOW.
Didn't see this before I posted below. I'm with you (not "everything," but he's close). Fewer jerseys are my only real complaint but it's tough to argue that players and recruits do love them. Plus extra revenue helps pay for facilities and salaries.
If that happened to my kid (in PA) - I would be beyond pissed.
Wait, really? Why? It's just a shirt.
You can't possibly see why this would upset some people?
Honestly no. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. It's a silly policy, but not anything to get worked up about.
Perhaps he realizes that if he made a big deal about his kid being singled out for being a Michigan fan then DB would throw some benefits his way too.
The thing that bothers me about this is that the kid is so young. To you and me, it might not sound like a big deal to have to turn your t-shirt inside out, but for a 5-year-old to be scolded by his teacher in front of the class over his clothes, that could be pretty hurtful.
I don't see why the school couldn't have just called home, or pinned a note to his shirt, asking the parents to not repeat their "mistake," rather than make a scene.
I thought it was pretty funny when the first words on the OK newscast were "A local mother is outraged right now; she said her child was asked to turn his shirt inside out."
Yeah, I'd roll my eyes, but this is not the hill I'd choose to die on.
I'd be a little embarrassed that I had let my poor kid get singled out by breaking the dress code--I'm supposed to stay on top of those things, dumb rules or no.
My favorite comment listed under the article:
"If only it had a Penn State logo on the inside when he switched it around...."
I would hope that no nine-year-old in America owns a Penn State shirt.
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Of course he is. You can't reach as deep into people's pockets from a seated position.
According to my sources (Mark Snyder's Tweeter) Brandon actually got the Mden to make him an inside out shirt to wear to school. I assume this means print on the inside, which IMO is pretty badass.
Edit: It's actually a Michigan Wolverines shirt with "Michigan" on the inside, meaning he probably still can't wear it to school. As Brandon says, "To hell with 'em".
Maybe David Brandon can open for Allen Trieu at a Comedy Club near you.
This is a pretty cool move by Brandon, and it would be just that much better if the kid wore that very "banned" shirt to the stadium, as there is perhaps no better place for him to don that shirt.
This is why I love Brandon. Not only is he a good guy, but he knows how to take advantage of a situation and make Michigan look awesome.
This could be actual evidence of Brandon CREATING THE FUTURE
Whatever the motive, it's a great thing!!
I'm glad to see he did something to capitalize on this story. Whether you agree or disagree with the story behind the shirt, this is just a smart PR move.
Ive wanted to start a discussion on Brandon for a while, but don't have the points to do it. It's always seemed like people are overly critical of him. I personally believe he's done a fantastic job as AD. Not perfect obviously but I would hire him again in a heartbeat. How does everyone else feel about his job so far?
Also I digress - good gesture by DB but I thought for sure this thread was going to be about the fundraising he's rumored to start or ex-athletes at U of M.
Gave them the family 4 pack to Umass.
Soda all around!
but I still think DB is a DB. The more he can keep his hands off of it the better it will be.
oops too late, already being used for PR.
Our athletic director is giving a family in Oklahoma - which was punished for supporting Michigan - free tickets to a Michigan game, and you think it's a bad idea? Would you have preferred that he make them buy tickets instead?
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Lets try my first sentence again shall we? Good for the kid & his family
Me & the rest of the world hearing all about it doesn't help his family any more does it?
Was that response really necessary?
It seems from the other thread that your beef with Brandon is that he fired your favorite coach, so I'll ignore your posts on this topic from now on.
This aggresion will not stand, man!
a kid and his family get something for free from Michigan...
The person who's always standing and walking.
Your argument is invalid. Nobody has ever claimed marketing and branding are bad.
The more apt argument is that Brandon is re-branding something that doesn't need to be rebranded. The quintessential example of this, IMO, is the mascot issue. Brandon argues we need a mascot to get young fans loving Michigan. Since when has there been an issue with young fans? The only thing a mascot does is continue the conversion of the classic, traditional M gameday to something more akin to a hockey game, with the added side effect of creating some cheap money-making opportunities.
I'm all for a lot of the stuff he's done, but when he messes with gameday and stadium atmosphere, he fails miserably. I fell in love with Michigan when I was a kid because of everything about gameday and Brandon is slowly taking it away.
I am generally not a fan of Brandon. But, in one move, he somehow beat Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Tulsa and whatever-the-hell other schools are in that state.
...and that can be both a good and bad thing.
That county in Oklahoma needs to wise up and change it's rules