Dave Brandon Not Happy About Ohio's Extra Coaches

This is rediculous and unfair.  Why should you be allowed to gain a TREMENDOUS advantage in recruiting while a team is preparing for a bowl game? I'm glad Brandon spoke out against this and hopefully other coaches do too.

Cheaters are gonna cheat if the NCAA is going to ignore this!

The comments on that article are out of the ballpark ridiculous.

Did we get this same treatment when RR was hired?

Illinois requested the same waiver for Beckman and his staff. They said something to the effect of "if Ohio gets to do it, then so should we". It's a real slippery slope the NCAA is standing on, but what's new?

but, UNC is being allowed the same thing...it's not just Ohio..I don't understand the rule, but I also don't understand a lot of stuff going on in college football now-a-days or the NFL for that matter.

Considering that Meyer was hired because Tressel lied and cheated to the NCAA. This would be wrong for an ordinary transition, it is pathetic when a coaching change is done because of an NCAA investigation. I'm guessing the NCAA won't do anything to OSU other than a stern lecture and Gee will nod...meanwhile Columbus tattoo parlors will double in the next decade..

is it cool if the only real penalty we had to face, replacing our scumbag cheating ass coach, is mitigated by having our incoming coach, who has 2 national championships, do recruiting while the existing staff prepares for the bowl game we shouldn't be eligible for? Oh yeah, thats ok? Thanks. I'm glad you understand that unaccounted stretching is on the same level as paying players.

NCAA = National Competitive Advantage Administration?

Dirty politicians always seem to have an advantage, then they go down in the flames of corruption. If I was a journalist, I would be setting up beat in Columbus. Seems you are guaranteed a scandel every few years. They are like the pheonix of scandal makers, a new one always emerges from the ashes of the old. 

The NCAA has no method for schools to hold its feet to the fire. No balance of power. Time to abandon it. The Big Ten would be just fine on its own. Fuck the MNC, fuck BCS bowl games I just want Big Ten championships anyway....

Its not like winning the championship of cheating is anything to be proud about anyway...

Because I'm not happy about it either!

Didn't we get in trouble for exceeding a coach limit recently?

I hope the NCAA is going to come down hard on OSU and they are only allowing them to do this out of pity

The NCAA doesn't seem to even hide the fact that they are in bed with Ohio, what with allowing the double coaching staff, not caring that Tressel came to speak to the team for the Michigan game- you know, the same coach who got FIRED and caused the NCAA to investigate in the first place.  The fact that Urban Meyer took the job in the first place, tells you that he must've had reassurances from someone in the know, that the NCAA "hammer" that's about to drop, is going to be more like an NCAA "feather".  Frankly, the NCAA hypocrisy is disgusting.

I think it would be ok if it was just limited to the incoming HC. In most of these situations, much/most of the existing staff is not being retained so in a way they are at a recruiting disadvantage. But the way I read the NCAA waiver, Ohio could actually hire an entirely new staff and thereby have 10 guys out recruiting full-time while the staffs of most other teams are preparing for bowl games. That is crazy. Well, it would be crazy if it weren't a decision made by the NCAA.

I want to know how he feels about it. That way msm will care.

Oh How I Hate, Ohio State

Has it really come to picking apart a petty ruling like this?

I feel like this is a pretty common occurence for school who hire a new HC and allow their current head coach to finish out the season.

Wasn't RichRod allowed to start hiring staff when Lloyd Carr finished out his last season? I thought some of the staff he brought over from West Virgina were immediately hired. From my understanding Urban has only hired Tom Herman so far like 2 days ago, I doubt the guy is already blazing through the recruiting trail.

pretty much making itself unable to set rules and govern college sports.

If DB would have known this was an option, he would have canceled last year's dog and pony show ASAP.

is guilty of failing to monitor ...It's really getting ridiculous .. Im waiting for schools and conferences to break away from the NCAA..

We should all be allowed to hire extra coaches for the holidays.

I share DB's difficulty in understanding this as well, especially given the name  that is running the "shadow staff" (at least, this is what it is for the time being), if you will, at Ohio, as the name "Urban Meyer" has some draw, whereas "Luke Fickell" sounds more like a supporting character on "Dennis The Menace". It sounds like by granting this exemption that, once again, Ohio gets an "out" in a sticky situation. If  the NCAA really believed in any  form of competitive parity in collegiate athletics, it would make schools live with their decisions, right? I applaud our AD for mentioning this. 

something. I mean I understand how its profitable for the NCAA to have OSU be a good team but I can't remember EVER hearing something happen like this before. If the NCAA was gonna grant this waiver wouldn't all schools that were making a coaching change do this?

This is a sign that Urban Meyer will receive special treatment from here on in, starting with whatever sanctions are coming their way. It would surprise me if the NCAA does anything more than they've already done to themselves. 

First, we had the same advantage when RR came to town...yes, we all want to forget! Second, The understanding is, Meyer can build a staff and his organization, but the reality is whomever he hires most likely won't be in place until after 1/1/2012 (yes, I know that's not true for every case, so no need to send links to random articles). As far as recruiting is concerned, well, we were in the same boat when RR came to town but, with their pending sanctions, I sit here scratching my head over this one. I am not so sure sitting around whining about it changes anything. We have a great 2012 class and this has little or no impact to our future.

  That's a quality that both Brandon and Hoke have, and I'm happy to see it.  They call it like they see them.  Hoke has chastised, but not denigrated, referees when calls are blatantly missed (and affect the games outcome).  Both of them have now publicly commented on the coaching situation in Ohio.  (Which seems fair, considering that some of our infractions had to do with the number and type of coaches used.) 

  I hope that when the NCAA punishment is handed down that we'll have a full court press, with the media as our partner in beating the drum, if they aren't appropriate or harsh enough.

I trust Brandon as far as I can throw a semi, but I agree with him on this one.  It seems like the NCAA is going out of its way to make sure that THE Ohio State University doesn't really suffer much for their ten-year pattern of cheating.  

tOSU just didn't hire Smith as their AD because he was a brilliant man.  He has connections as he comes to tOSU as the Director of Compliance of the NCAA.

Wait a minute, the point should be that the former OSU coach was fired in an attempt to avoid further sanctions and because he violated specific NCAA rules.  Now, how should that be turned into an advantage to allow OSU to have two coaching staffs for the bowl game?

One thing if a head coach is fired or retires for other reasons (DUI, whatever), totally different if it is due to violating NCAA regulations.

1) Last year Ohio played the NCAA for suckers and they still get the consideration

2) That Ohio is currently awaiting sanction notifications and they still get the consideration

3) This waiver provides more advantage than anything that happened uner RR

4) Sends a strong signal to recruites that NCAA is cooperating with Ohio, so do not be wary of sanctions,

If the whole need for two staffs is created by massive violations of NCAA rules, it is an absolute joke that they be given this edge. I'm glad Brandon said something. If anything it should have been more harsh.

Rich Rod was hired on December 17, 2007.  He has less than a week to recruit before the dead period and he had no staff to speak of at the time because they were still busy coaching for WVU's bowl game.  Urban Meyer was announced as coach at Ohio on November 28, which is giving him about 3 more weeks to recruit than we got with Rich Rod.  The NCAA ruling on this is unfair. PERIOD.

It's def a advantage, but don't worry about it too much. After all, we still have not seen any of these recruits play in one college football game.

this is just classic ass material here.

It's almost worthy of a second, "two-weeks-later" version of TWIS.

They don't get it so they won't quit it.