New discussion with AD Dave Brandon.
Hope to get the NEW SCOREBOARDS IN NEXT YEAR!!! Fuck ya! 40% bigger and Hi Def. WOOT WOOT! and other stuff!
New discussion with AD Dave Brandon.
Hope to get the NEW SCOREBOARDS IN NEXT YEAR!!! Fuck ya! 40% bigger and Hi Def. WOOT WOOT! and other stuff!
I was ready to rip this thread to shreds. Now I'm excited. I like it when life happens like that.
the comments by Brandon on RR seem positive to say the least
Thats what i got from his answers also...How can you leave a potential Heisman winner hangin?
Who knows, but it would be pretty disappointing to see possibly Harbaugh come in to michigan and change back to a pro style.. then jet to the NFL after just a couple years..
I cannot see him staying at michigan for more than a couple years if there would be a coaching change..
And we can all speculate on Denard still being a QB if there is a coaching change, but it would really suck to see his talents go to waste at another position besides QB. I wanna see what he can do as an upper classmen the next 2 years.
I preface this by saying that I'm in the pro-RR camp, but Luck has about 500 yds rushing this year.
He also missed time in eight games, four of which he never returned. Regardless of whom the coach is, we need to cut down Denard's carries. The poor guy's taking a beating.
we have a back who will come back to the fold and help out by sharing the carrying.
I'm fairly certain that we'll have a running back available regardless of whom the coach is. Or are you suggesting that Shaw, Smith, Hopkins, Toussaint and Cox are all on the verge of transferring? (I'll believe that Dee Hart will beat all those guys out as a true frosh when I see it.)
Was being a bit light-hearted in my comment there. But the important word is "sharing."
And now that I've actually read the article, I'm encouraged by his remarks about Saturday's advertising being only a continuation of the hockey venue tradition, and not a vision of a marketplace to come.
Other than Hopkins, who looks to have great potential, none of these running backs were able to establish themselves as the clear cut number one. So I would say Dee Hart would have a good chance to beat any of these guys out as a freshman. Not saying it will happen but certainly not a long shot either.
There's no doubt in my mind that if JH came, he would plan to use Denard the best he could, meaning keeping him at QB, improving his passing, and running him often, but less often than this year. Ideally, DRob throws the ball the same number of times, but with another year of work, does so more efficiently, runs the ball about half as many times, and has a couple/few RBs who can take care of business when given a hand-off. This is likely the ideal situation under both RR and JH, with only slight variances.
Denard Robinson could be the 2011 version of Andrew Luck, slightly below him in terms of passing, but way ahead when he takes off. I'd be OK with that.
I agree 100% but Denard != Luck. What I'm pointing out is that he's not gonna go all Jim Tressel on Denard if he does come (hopefully we don't have to worry about this).
Not to mention that Harbaugh has experience running a spread offense (at USD). He's not necessarily married to one style of play.
Why do you think JH would go pro after a couple years if he came here? If he preferred coaching in the NFL to coaching at UM, he's go to the NFL this year. And if he's successful at UM, we'd pay him close to NFL type money with much better than NFL type job security.
we'd pay him close to NFL type money with much better than NFL type job security.
Because firing the previous coach after three years of a major rebuilding project is the deifinition of job security.
Because if JH came, he'd be in the 5th coach since 1969 and then 9th since 1929. No job security with all that turnover.
Seriously who was the last M coach to be fired? Has there been one ever? Moeller, Oosterbaan, Elliott, and Kipske all resigned (all but Mo coached at least 9 seasons), while Carr, Bo, and Crisler retired. Bump Elliott had the worst winning percentage pre-RR, and even he wasn't fired. RR might be the first. Not saying he should, but can you say Michigan has zero justification for firing a coach with the lowest winning percentage in M history (.417 is almost half of the previous 3 coaches) and the lowest conference record (.250 is 1/3 of the previous 3 coaches) in school history.
I did not get a positive or negative vibe from those comments at all.It is the same stuff we have been reading and hearing for the past month.
I think the way to read any Brandon interviews (at least the football parts) is to read it three times: Read it under the assumption that he's decided to jettison Rodriguez, read it under the assumption that he's decided to keep him, then read it under the assumption that he's not sure. I think, if anything, that his statements about "selling Michigan" to recruits, not coaches, don't bode well for Rich (for the record, I'm more pro-Rodriguez than anti).
I love the part where he talks about keeping advertisements off of the Big House. I think it'll be a unique experience to see the most impressive and intimidating stadium be 100% about football with massive HD screens, without a single Arby's banner or billboard.
I've been to a few LSU games at night and I must say all those bright ads all over the stadium are annoying and tacky.
I am very happy to hear that about advertising. I feared that the new scoreboards would offer the perfect cover to slip in some ads.
"Have I (been criticized)?" You mean, like, there is more than just mgoblog?
Also, if the comments are taken at face value, it would appear that Rich Rodriguez has a GREAT opportunity to make a statement (positive or negative) in the bowl game and the weeks leading up to it.
I still say 3-D or bust. I want to feel like i'm "there"
thought this comment was funny..
the spread, the UM name IS a reason so many kids are interested in visiting. That is a big reason why RR came here. He did not have to sell the school to a kid.
Brandon's statement is correct IMO.
"While I do not disagree that offensive players are attracted to Salvatore Quattro."
what you do for a living from your eclectic posts. I am intrigued by your analysis and had no idea why I thought the comment title and screen name combination were funny, but now I do.
He's just communicating confidence about the program and the school. And he's absolutely correct in doing so. DB himself represents the tradition and excellence both in athletics and academics. The history speaks for itself. The schools reputation is second to none.
It's sort of a first test for a recruit!
'Do you understand what it means to be a Michigan Wolverine?'
'Do you want to be a Wolverine?'.
That's what I'm hearing him say.
It really is an honor to be offered a scholly to come put the winged helmet on.
I love the attitude. It's not hubris! Just representing what we're all about. Nothing wrong here! It's interesting to hear him speak in this manner. It sounds a bit like he and RR share the same attitude: 'we care about student athletes who want to be here'.
Jesus dude. Could you post a slightly larger pic please? There's a portion of my family room not quite covered with whatever the fuck that is you put up.
Slowly step away from the computer... Everything will be ok
I'm not trying to create controversy, but why would standing behind your coach and saying he'll be back next year create a distraction?
Wouldn't it lessen distraction? If the game is SO important...why aren't we making it easier for the coaches to not worry about anything other than the game? Kinda AD double speak there.
for his decision on RR and its impact on recruiting are disingenuous.
Nice to hear that he's not inclined to advertising in the stadium, though.
Could you expand a little? I am curious.
That is the most overused word in the English language by sports people who want to find a better synonym for "stupid".
Huh? Disingenuous? It's actually a way to call someone a liar without actually saying so. But you're really just calling them a liar. Or that they don't believe what they're saying.
Exactly. I think most people just kind of use it as a rather blase substitute for "stupid", instead of using it for its intended purpose, or just saying the damn word "liar".
Well, I don't know what other websites you visit, but I haven't seen anyone here use it as a synonym for "stupid." It's not as harsh as "liar," either. To say someone is being disingenous is to say that he/she is not telling us the full truth, but not necessarily lying. In this case, Brandon says recruiting isn't an issue because he's spoken with some of the commits. It may be true that the guys committed are firm, but that's only part of the recruiting picture; we were hoping to land some currently-uncommitted players by now.
I'm not talking specifically websites, but just sporting news in general. I've noticed it mostly on television and radio, where it seems to me that everyone just wants to use bigger words to sound intelligent.
It has a very specific meaning, and was used correctly here.
YARG! I'm not trying to say that it was mis-used here, just that I find it annoying that it is so overused. I guess I should have made that more clear. : - )
I admit I cringe when people over-use the word "magisterial." Or even use it once. Especially without sarcasm.
(I also remember being irritated when William Styron used "avatar" 3 times in Sophie's Choice, long before blockbuster movies and the internet made it a word folks actually [sort of] understand.)
Disingenuous is also a synonym for an article written by many Detroit newspaper sports writers.
You might want to check the dictionary again on that one.
You might want to look it up yourself, because that's exactly the word to describe his responses. Or do you really think the delay on affirming/firing RR is not affecting recruiting at all either?
"I want the coaches and players to be focused fully on preparations for the Gator Bowl and feel it would be too distracting for me to tell them now whether the coaches are still going to have jobs after the game?" Yeah, ok.
the last 2 years comment? He definitely put the pot stirring directly on the media's shoulders.
Or future coach to be...if he makes the right coaching decisions (keep OR change, whatever, as long as it works), he's cocky and cool. If it backfires and fails, he comes off sounding like an arrogant ass.
the answer to the age old MgoBlog question is finally answered. "Does Dave Brandon read and respond to his emails?" The answer is he sure does.
Does he read MGoBlog? (No, apparently)
I love the no advertising policy. I hate going to games and seeing shitty commercials everytime you look at a highlight.
The part about reorganizing the department was interesting. It sounds like he wasn't very impressed with the people Martin had there.
Ran a team. But then I don't know how classy it is to say so.
I love the no ads thing, but I will not be excited about scoreboards until I hear that Yost is getting new ones, sorry.
I never expected us to get UT-sized godzillatrons, but the new scoreboards sound like they are going to be much smaller than I expected.
If you consider Brandon's comments about making the scoreboards 30-40% larger and filling most of that space with the video screen, that would take the video displays from the current 32' wide by 24' high to HD screens about 90-100 feet wide and 40-50 feet high. Those would be impressive and compare favorably to some of the best college video displays.
Crude Photoshop alert, but let's say the new scoreboards are 35% larger than the old ones. This is a look at the difference (black outline is the new scoreboard):
Since the new boards will have just a big screen and add the time, score, yards, etc. with graphics, this is what a replay on the new ones might look like:
Because the video part of the current boards is so small, these would be a huge difference size-wise because you're utilizing the whole board for video (likely all of the board except a section at the bottom for the actual score and time and all that and a section for the closed capitioning).
thanks for putting that together, i was just about to do the same.
Additionally, two boards that size would put out a lot of light, making night games even more lit up than with just the new lights. This is university of tennessee's stadium, with just 1 board at night.
Those will be awesome, but I will be a bit sad to see the old ones go....
But it's not like they're THAT old.
I agree that the relatively small video area we have now will increase substantially, but the total size of the boards will not. I guess I was hoping for something that would look as imposing as the new superstructures.
FWIW, the total size of the current boards is 78 x 40 (3,120 sq ft). A 35% increase would bump them up to approximately 90 x 47 (4,230 sq ft). In comparison, new TCF Bank Stadium's board is 108 x 48 (5,184 sq ft) and UT's godzillatron is 134 x 55.5 (7,437 sq ft).
Link to list of largest boards in college football stadiums:
After looking at the wikipedia list, why wouldnt we put in boards that were at least comparable in size to the top schools in the country? It would be one thing if it was just Texas, but Minnesota and others were fairly close behind. Perhaps the price point gets huge over a certain size. I know there was concern over the weight that the current footings could support.
Or doesn't care.
Make your own value judgement on that.
There is still the occasional recruit that grew up a huge Michigan fan and couldn't imagine playing for anyone else. The rest are sort of mercs -- looking for the system/coach/program that is the best ticket to the pros (see Pryor, who would dominate at almost any other school than OSU, if you believe him but wanted a system where he could become a pro quarterback).
Or branding Brandon?
You are the first person I have seen mention this. He seems to be everywhere (even on the sidelines at games). I don't recall seeing Bill Martin half this much during his entire tenure.
I have no idea what Bill Martin looks like.
I had no intentions of starting a mini-thread on "disingenuous". I just wanted to see if you meant related to recruiting or whether or not RRis retained.
I agree with your comment. IMO, if he has decided to fire RR, then he is at the "lying" end of the definition. Perhaps I am missing something, but I dont know how he could name Harbaugh/Hoke/Miles or anyone else coach on January 2nd without being inconsistent with his "I will wait until after the bowl game to do my evalution".
Perhaps I am missing something, but I dont know how he could name Harbaugh/Hoke/Miles or anyone else coach on January 2nd without being inconsistent with his "I will wait until after the bowl game to do my evalution".
It simply depends on how RR is judged. If it's as a body of work, then the records show that he has been a failure. If it's a future outlook, then he will likely be a success. Neither one is correct, although I strongly always prefer future outlooks compared to past history, but he's likely waying both.
Has a coach ever been fired after winning a New Year's day bowl for other than some sort of scandal/incident?
He doesn't see recruiting as being effected to any great degree by this. People can have a different point of view, but that isn't going to change his mind on the subject. An endorsement isn't going to just appear.
There are dozen of things Rodriguez could be doing right now to salvage his job that have nothing to do with the Gator Bowl result. The only thing he should be taking from the lack of public statement extending him past this year, is that his job performance hasn't warranted it.
He should focus in on a plan to make the changes to put us in the upper echelon again. Sorry if many fans are not ready to base the future on the extrapolation that since we have a lot of guys returning, we'll automatically start beating these good teams that whipped us bad this year.
All good programs improve. Ohio State is very young too. So is Nebraska. Michigan State is recruiting the linebackers we need.
What are we going to actually do differently to beat the teams we should be beating? He should be sharing that with Brandon and hope that is enough.
I don't want to peer into the mind of David Brandon. This isn't being John Malkovitch and any interpretation of his quotes is probably an lesson in obtuse reasoning at best.
I still maintain however that if Jim Harbaugh has been offered the job or a new coach has been approached, that everyone would know about it. These wouldn't be guesses, leaks would exist everywhere. Truthfully they would come from Harbaugh or XYZ coaches camp. Someone would say something, people can't resist. Dave Brandon has made it a very tight lipped policy and anyone saying RR is fired is merely speculating, guessing and rumor mongering at this point. The longer the timeline the more likely the leak. There hasn't been a word really from either side that this is going to happen.
I think the reason Brandon is waiting till the season is done is because they are going to let go of the entire defensive staff and that is not small undertaking. I think Greg is one thing, but RR has been with a bunch of the other guys on the defensive side of the ball for a long time. If RR says, "I can't live without Gibson and Tall or I have to work with my hand picked guy and this doesn't work otherwise" then you have to make a choice. My guess is Dave Brandon will fire everyone rather than have a house divided. Certainly doing that prior to the bowl game would cause a ton of disruption and deciding whether to keep Tall and Gibson but let go of Robinson, and how to do it and etc is not something you want to be doing before the bowl game.
I maintain Dave Brandon is not dumb enough to let RR keep coaching and recruiting as a lame duck. The school has had a long standing policy of "I can only stand behind those who are here at Michigan". When Freider was looking to leave, Bo made sure how that would be handled. If RR had no chance of coming back, he would already be let go. There is something else that is motivating him to keep RR waiting and my guess is that the two of them are going to have a very serious discussion about the direction of the defense and a need for house cleaning. Only then will Brandon know how much having his own guys means to Rich.
DB also has a hell of a lot more leverage on RR to force him to make a tough decision after the bowl game when there is little time to recruit or find another job than before should RR really stick to his guns about some of the defensive staff. If the decision was put in front of him now, RR very well could say, "I am loyal to my people, fire me if you wish, I know that I and this staff can get hired somewhere else". Now after the bowl game, it would be hard for that whole staff to get hired at a program quickly.
I may be naive but all of us have to agree that waiting till after the bowl game to fire someone as a foregone conclusion seems like a horrible business decision. This decision at the very least has not been made and at the very most has been determined only on the defensive side of the ball.
That's an interesting argument, I think. One question, though: Why would this have prevented him from supporting RR? He could have said "RR will be our coach next year" while still firing the D coaches after the bowl-game. He even could have said the usual "We continue to evaluate all areas of the staff." So he could have had it both ways.
is that DB can't promise RR will stay until his discussion with RR about defensive changes, which may (and probably would) include whether or not RR is willing to stay without his long-time assistants. If he DID promise such a thing, that would truly be disingenuous.
An excellent analysis, Denarding. Hope it doesn't get lost down at the bottom of this post.