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Da'shawn Hand's New Top Three
June 12th, 2013 at 8:23 AM
#1
Da'shawn Hand's New Top Three
June 12th, 2013 at 8:39 AM
#2
Alabama
Alabama doesn't have an undergrad sports management program, so I'm not sure he will ever be meeting the sports management guy.
He did meet the head of their 122nd ranked engin department, you know, the one ranked lower than UAB.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:44 AM
#3
word on the street is
that 'bama has accepted his being good at sport to as a prereq to their grad school sports management program, which is unsupdeproprecedented
June 12th, 2013 at 8:49 AM
#4
I would almost guarantee that being the truth.
I would almost guarantee that being the truth.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:03 AM
#5
Alabama to Hand
"We will pay you to play sports. You manage the money we pay you. Thats our sports management. Welcome aboard!"
Then Alabama shakes Hand until Hand turns BLUE
June 12th, 2013 at 9:13 AM
#6
Confirmation Regarding VaTech...
Per SBNation, who has some quotes from Hand, that is precisely the reason (LINK).
Straight from Hand himself:
"I eliminated Virginia Tech because they don't offer a sports marketing program. And with South Carolina, the professor just didn't wow us. "
...and regarding Michigan and Alabama:
"At Michigan, the [sports marketing] program was so impressive, I wanted to sign up right there. During my visit to Alabama, I met the dean of their [sports marketing] program, and it's an excellent program."
June 12th, 2013 at 9:20 AM
#7
He seems to be very serious
He seems to be very serious about sports marketing. If he's making his decision based on an academic department, then I think it bodes well for us.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:54 AM
#8
He must come to Michigan. He
He must come to Michigan. He can learn Sports Marketing at the foot of the absolute Master, Dave Brandon.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:10 AM
#9
I hope they're protecting his identity
1. "?? What the hell is a professor?"
2. "Christ, who let him talk to a professor..."
3. "PROFESSOR!!!"
June 12th, 2013 at 2:34 PM
#10
In a totally unrelated story
In a totally unrelated story , The University of South Carolina hires
Jerry Mcguire as their new Sports marketing professor.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:36 AM
#11
I would say that it is better
I would say that it is better than not fighting Saban for a recruit.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:27 AM
#12
Tell that to Henry Poggi.
Tell that to Henry Poggi.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:47 AM
#13
Let's not kid ourselves.
Let's not kid ourselves. Poggi was a huge get for us but not nearly as big a priority for Bama.
Hand's recruitment is going to be a dogfight. Saban's track record of getting guys into the NFL has got to be attractive to recruits.
I have no doubt that Hoke will return Michigan to the level of a top 5 destination for college football recruits but that isn't the case yet.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:52 AM
#16
For a recruit who seems to
For a recruit who seems to see through BS, it's not a terrible thing. Saban is not totally full of poo like Urban Meyer is, and he's great at getting the most out of his players, but I think Hand is going to see that Alabama doesn't offer quite as much as Mich, total college experience considered.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:33 AM
#17
Yes,
definitely not good if you're a Hokie. I think it's good news for us though.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:38 AM
#18
Before today, we were
Before today, we were presumed to be in his Top 2. We weren't the ones eliminated, so this is a good thing.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:29 AM
#19
I liked being matched up vs
I liked being matched up vs VA Tech more. Well we've beaten Bama for recruits before and we'll do it again.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:30 AM
#20
Could it be....
SATAN?!?!?!? Nick Satan keep your HANDS off HAND!
June 12th, 2013 at 8:32 AM
#21
Link ($) straight from
Link ($) straight from TomVH's mouth (keyboard?)
http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/michigan/forums#!/topic/1371039583-966-0
June 12th, 2013 at 8:51 AM
#22
So, sum that
So, sum that up...
June 12th, 2013 at 8:56 AM
#23
to sum up:
You should pay for Insider. Then TomVH can hold you too.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:16 AM
#24
Normally I'm patient enough for it to hit the
Normally I'm patient enough for it to hit the board, but not today
June 12th, 2013 at 9:18 AM
#25
Great information!
Thanks!
June 12th, 2013 at 9:28 AM
#26
Seriously, you can find it
Seriously, you can find it for like $8-$10 a year. It's too ridiculous of a deal to not do it.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:45 AM
#27
ESPN Insider
I have the ESPN Insider. You are right. It is a great deal and is very cheap for what you end up getting. I didn't use it as much until they came up with Wolverine Nation. Now I use the Insider quite a bit which is well worth it.
In this case here I think what everyone was saying is that they were expecting some tidbit of information besides just a link.
June 12th, 2013 at 12:29 PM
#28
fuck that
I wouldn't give ESPN one fucking penny of my money...
June 12th, 2013 at 10:32 AM
#29
You can get it sent to you
You can get it sent to you via email, which you then can delete w/o even opening, like I do.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:18 AM
#30
joke's on you
Because that means you missed the fashion issue. And the music issue.
Because those things are important in a sports magazine.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:51 AM
#31
The pulp industry was probably our
first sustainable industry. They give the trees a shot of painkiller before they cut them down. They don't feel a thing.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
#32
The problem is that you don't
The problem is that you don't get access to Insider until you start getting the magazine which takes 8-10 weeks to start from when you sign up. I know because I signed up a few weeks ago when the latest great deal was announced and was really bummed to learn that I would have to wait this long because I only signed up for the Insider access.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:33 AM
#33
This.
Welcoming news to start a Wednesday.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:33 AM
#34
Is this good news, or did
Is this good news, or did Bama just jump everyone?
June 12th, 2013 at 8:34 AM
#35
I think it bodes well for us
I think it bodes well for us being in his ear so long and that he loves our staff, but if you were 17 and the best player in the country it would be hard not to take a look at Bama and all there rings and early draft picks.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:35 AM
#36
So you're saying that the
So you're saying that the reason he isn't interested in OSU is that they've sold all there rings?
June 12th, 2013 at 8:35 AM
#40
WTKA RIGHT NOW!!
Sam Webb just got off the phone with D. Hand and he's going to cover it on the other side of this commercial break. He said Michigan just took a major step in the direction of landing Hand. Sam sounds VERY giddy....tune in!
June 12th, 2013 at 8:36 AM
#41
Details for those of us at
Details for those of us at work. I expect a detailed synopsis in this thread. Pretty, pretty please...
June 12th, 2013 at 9:05 AM
#42
The "revelation" is that Hand
The "revelation" is that Hand dropped VaTech (which should be a reminder of how ridiculously well informed we MGoCultists are) and he is now considering Alabama because he likes their engineering program, and was blown away by the engineering professor he spoke with. He also said something about how the professor is a "football guy" and Sam doesn't know what that even means.
Sam reitereated several times that this is "a step closer" to Michigan landing Hand because he believes it is about relationships and he implied that Alabama would not be able to make up the ground that Michigan already has in that department. He kept saying again and a gain that he could never have imagined that Hand would drop Virginia Tech but the academics aspect was just too important. Ira was blown away by that part. I think that is basically everything.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:19 AM
#43
Someone get Da'Shawn a USN&WR ranking stat
I think someone said above Alabama is 122nd in engineering whereas Michigan is typically top 5. For comparisons sake, I think MSU, Tech, and Western are all in the top 50 so Alabama at 100+ effectively means their engineering school is a big joke
June 12th, 2013 at 12:35 PM
#44
I think the real reason he
I think the real reason he dropped VT isn't because of the sports managment program. I don't have any concrete info but logic dictates that if he considers Alabama's engineering program and he still really liked the coaches at VT he wouldn't just drop them because of no Sports Management. That would mean he would have to drop Alabama too because no SM.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:40 AM
#45
Thanks. I bet their website
Thanks. I bet their website is going to crash now.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:35 AM
#46
If I had to say my top three,
If I had to say my top three, I'd say:
1. Jimmy Johns
2. Quiznos
3. Anything not Subway
/s
June 12th, 2013 at 8:37 AM
#47
Eat fresh. The plastic seals
Eat fresh. The plastic seals in the freshness.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:09 AM
#48
It's actually a
It's actually a "crunch-enhancer". A non-nutritive cereal varnish that's semi-permiable. It's not osmotic. What it does, is it coats and seals the leaf, prevents the dressing from penetrating it.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:36 AM
#49
bacon and avocado
Allright, so their lettuce is a non-food item. I had the new bravacado yesterday -- turkey, bacon and avocado -- and it was awfully good.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:37 AM
#50
Automatic +1s for Christmas
Automatic +1s for Christmas Vacation quotes. Nice.
June 12th, 2013 at 2:43 PM
#51
Has your Christmas bonus been
Has your Christmas bonus been delivered yet, Clark? Have to pay for the pool.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:54 AM
#52
It's like a sandwich made from the plastic
It's like a sandwich made from the plastic ingredients found in a children's playhouse.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:13 AM
#53
Always get the spinach
Always get the spinach
June 12th, 2013 at 9:22 AM
#54
DAE not like subway?!
DAE not like subway?!
June 12th, 2013 at 9:36 AM
#55
i did not expect my innocent
i did not expect my innocent "gun to my head panera" comment to generate another sandwich conversation this morning.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:42 AM
#56
we had subs
it was crazy!
June 12th, 2013 at 12:20 PM
#57
Quiznos is nasty.
Quiznos is nasty.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:46 AM
#58
As long as we stay amongst his top schools...
As long as we stay amongst his top schools, I remain confident in Hoke, Mattison and Commish Peppers closing the deal on this one.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:35 AM
#59
Sam Webb on WTKA
will be talking about it now. When it's on the podcast it's right after the Marcus Ray segment.
Hand called Webb while he was on with Marcus for his regular segment.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:34 AM
#60
the prospect called Sam?
isn't that unusual? I've never heard that before. It's either a classy move or is replete with symbolism.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:55 AM
#61
Perhaps the phone call may
Perhaps the phone call may have been scheduled well ahead of time?
June 12th, 2013 at 8:38 AM
#62
I guess Allin4blue was right
I guess Allin4blue was right after all.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:42 AM
#63
Yeah. You can't blame anyone
Yeah. You can't blame anyone for doubting him though. 1 out of every 500 times someone on the internet says that he has a friend of a friend of a guy, it's legit.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:53 AM
#64
Oh, I agree. There always
Oh, I agree. There always seems to be someone who knows somebody, and more often than not it doesn't exactly pan out the way they say it will. However, he said it definitively before anybody. I wondered while I was reading it what the reaction would be either way and I was really hoping he was right. think one or two people might owe him an apology.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:26 AM
#65
Just like when I smoked pot
Just like when I smoked pot with Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Kettering and Johnny said he was playing LAX in the B1G, and I was all like Dude, your crazy.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:58 AM
#66
I'm inclined to agree, but I
I'm inclined to agree, but I just can't be sure how often it's legit when someone on the Internet posts a statistic.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
#67
No hate! It was just a "lucky"
No hate! It was just a "lucky" guess on my part!
June 12th, 2013 at 8:39 AM
#68
Hand said VT is off the list
Hand said VT is off the list because they don't offer sports marketing.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:53 AM
#69
Neither does Bama for an
Neither does Bama for an undergrad...?
June 12th, 2013 at 8:41 AM
#70
Breaking: Deshawn Hand announces that
he eats exclusively at Potbelly.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:42 AM
#71
I've heard rumors (not sure
I've heard rumors (not sure how legit as they're VT guys) that he's been buying into Saban's pitch that he could play the Jack LB position in their 3-4 and slide down to DE when they go to the 4-man front nickel they play quite a bit. While I think he's more of a pure 4-3 SDE and could potentially be an instant impact guy in the B1G, I can't entirely blame guys for buying what Saban's selling given how successful his defenses have been lately.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:55 AM
#72
If you think he's a pure 4-3
If you think he's a pure 4-3 SDE, I think you're underrating his athleticism. I think he could play WDE, and I also think he could be an strongside OLB in a 3-4 look. Long-term (later college years, NFL, etc.), I think he probably fits best as a SDE but you might as well use his athleticism while he's got it. He's probably going to lose some of his quickness and burst once he bulks up to 285-290.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:01 AM
#73
Magnus, does he remind at all
Magnus, does he remind at all of a LaMarr Woodley in terms of build and position flexibility? Depending on 4-3 or 3-4 system Woodley switched from DE to OL etc.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
#74
If I had to pick a
If I had to pick a doppelganger from recent Michigan history, it would probably be Pierre Woods, not Woodley. However, I think Hand will grow to be bigger and stronger than Woods ever was.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:16 AM
#75
Somehow I doubt that those
Somehow I doubt that those are the kinds of things that will determine where he goes to school.
That sounds like message board-rationalization, something we should be familiar with after watching the infamous Eleven Warriors' meltdown.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:43 AM
#76
F5 F5 ...looks like im not
F5 F5 ...looks like im not getting any work done today lol
June 12th, 2013 at 8:46 AM
#77
I consider this good news
I consider this good news even if its Alabama. He had 2 major loves - one was dropped. He is replacing that with a new fling. Do you go with one of your 2 original loves or a fling? Yes I understand the fling is the current Victoria Secret model but who do you marry - her or the love? ;) His personality is not that one of a Treadwell - so take that into account.
p.s. I expect this to be a long slog - I mean he is going to Michigan for the ND game and that is months away so the # of Hand speculation posts between now and committment day is going to be enormous. Just let it play out - a long road ahead.
p.s.s. you guys are fast, just saw Sam's tweet and headed over here and already 24 posts sheesh.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:45 AM
#78
Sam Webb
He's talking about it right now on wtka
June 12th, 2013 at 8:51 AM
#79
Says he would consider sports
Sam says he would consider sports management at Michigan and engineering at Alabama. Head of engineering school at Alabama is a "football guy" which resonated with Hand, per Webb. But Webb says Michigan will be hard to beat since it will be very dependent on relationships and Hand is a relationship guy.
Overall Sam sounds very happy since VaTech dropped out. He thinks it is huge - Webb would not have predicted that... and says Hand wouldnt have either (and it came down to academics - that VaTech did not offer).
June 12th, 2013 at 8:54 AM
#80
lol, love how that post was
lol, love how that post was voted flamebait. I see the "neg any post" crowd is out today. Or is the IP address in VA, or AL? Wow.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:07 AM
#81
Maybe the middle school is on vacation today
There's no logic to the neg regardless.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:14 AM
#82
I don't know why but I have
I don't know why but I have this sudden urge to neg you for no particular reason.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:18 AM
#83
No problem. It's become
No problem. It's become redundant. ;)
June 12th, 2013 at 11:31 AM
#84
nevermind
nevermind my comment was redundant once I saw the next page where the same point was made several times.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:48 AM
#85
Hand calls Webb-
Sam leaves the segment with Marcus Ray to take the call. He tells Sam that he has definitely OUT, no doubts about it, regardless of his relationship with Bud Foster. This was due to academics.....not offering Sports Marketing. He loves our Sports Marketing program and was blown away with the presentation he was given. Alabama is in the picture due to "engineering"....due to a prof that is a "football guy". Hmmmm.....that seems a little odd seeing that M and VT both have good engineering programs. Webb thinks M is going to be VERY tough to beat, he sounds like an excited 12 year old girl. I think he's getting that gut feeling.....
June 12th, 2013 at 8:57 AM
#86
What doesnt make sense is
What doesnt make sense is Alabama doesnt have sports marketing, it has engineering. And Im sure VATech has engineering. Hence I find it circular and frankly I think Hand is just trying to come up with a reason.
If he was choosing a progam at Bama that VaTech does not offer that is one thing - but to say a certain program is lacking at VaTech (sports management) but choose Alabama which also lacks that program.. well it sounds like he is just trying to come up with a reason to let Bud F down gently.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:57 AM
#87
Sports Marketing is an
Sports Marketing is an entirely different thing.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:02 AM
#88
VT definitely has engineering. After the sugar
VT definitely has engineering. After the sugar bowl I met a few of their players, and they were nothing but very impressive, smart, polite young men who were committed to engineering and football together. /anecdote
June 12th, 2013 at 10:49 AM
#89
Yes, which makes the comments
Yes, which makes the comments about willing to go to Alabama for engineering but not VATech for engineering (and instead focusing on lack of sports management) speak to a much larger point. Looks like he just is trying to find a reason to drop a long standing relationship. The academic reason for dropping VaTech makes no sense - it would have come up months ago if lack of sports management at VaTech was true reason. Anyhow as long as it is not us, the exact reason doesnt matter much to me.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:50 AM
#90
Sam Webb is saying
he thinks relationships with the coaches will be huge in his final decision, which will put Michigan in very good position. He also said Prof. Mark Rosentraub's academic presentation "blew away" DaShawn on his campus visit.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:51 AM
#91
Damn....
This is almost a damn near gut feeling. I like this lots.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
#92
HOLD THE PHONES!247 has
HOLD THE PHONES!
247 has Alabama and Florida as 'warmer' and Michigan as 'warm'. Please tell me this is climate based. Oh my god, where's the nearest tall bridge!?!??!?
EDIT: They changed their temps. Thank god I never found that bridge...
June 12th, 2013 at 8:59 AM
#93
Where do you live? I'll
Where do you live? I'll google it.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:51 AM
#94
Looks like my skepticism about academics being that important
might be unwarranted. The supposed academic lure at Alabama of an engineering prof being a "football guy" doesn't sound very impressive.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:54 AM
#95
Agreed-
What does "Football Guy" = an easy grade!?!? Will he get the "football guy" in every engineering course he's enrolled in?
June 12th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
#96
Hold off on that until December, a lot can happen.
Hold off on that until December, a lot can happen.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:59 AM
#97
That ridiculous
He's just trying to recall some positive things to say during a media interview. Ever been interviewed? Lets not have unfounded criticism of the kid.
June 12th, 2013 at 8:55 AM
#98
Where is the best place to get Sam Webb's podcasts
Where is the best place to get Sam Webb's podcasts each week?
June 12th, 2013 at 9:32 AM
#99
http://www.wtka.com/page.php?
June 12th, 2013 at 9:40 AM
#100
Thanks
Thanks
June 12th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
#101
Where to get the podcast
June 12th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
#102
Anyone else think
Anyone else think it's funny that Hand took the time to call Michigan insiders this morning? That to me is a pretty big sign. To my knowledge, he did not do this with other teams insiders.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:01 AM
#103
False.
He's now live on a
False.
He's now live on a podcast with RDT.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:05 AM
#104
You don't have to tell me
I have RDT's podcasts on my I-phone. You should have heard his interview with Bear Bryant, it was pretty epic.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:14 AM
#105
The strangest thing about that interview
was how similar RDT and Bear Bryant's voices were. Who knew?
June 12th, 2013 at 12:57 PM
#106
Was tired of being outside on
Was tired of being outside on this one. Just figured out the whole RDT/WolverineBag thing. Holy shit that was confusing. Did anoyone ever figure out why the hell he made two different accounts and wanted to pose as a Bama fan?
June 12th, 2013 at 9:05 AM
#107
The way everything is falling
The way everything is falling I think Hand comes here. And I am not a rose (or maize) colored optimist. A lot of this comes from (a) his personality - introspective, intellectual and (b) his reaction to OSU visit which mirrors the SEC programs in "intensity" lol. He just seems like a fit for a Michigan Stanford type program and with the now long courtship and type of culture Hoke has, he seems like the type of kid who fits like a glove in the intangibles department with the school.
That said, I am preparing for months of speculation and jumping on and off bridges - will be very interesting to hear how his and Peppers relationship develops in the coming months as well.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
#108
That to me is a pretty big sign.
It's very telling.
June 12th, 2013 at 12:21 PM
#109
you must work for
the NSA
June 12th, 2013 at 9:03 AM
#110
The Alabama engineering guy
Hand said the dean was a football guy. Who the hell at Alabama isn't a football guy?
June 12th, 2013 at 9:06 AM
#111
all the females?
all the females?
June 12th, 2013 at 9:13 AM
#112
Even the girls are football guys
Even the girls are football guys; they'll kick your ass.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:12 AM
#115
Hell, the profs for modern dance and 19th century French lit
are football guys at Alabama.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:39 AM
#116
studio dedication
M
RTH
GRHM
June 12th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
#117
Damn I swear I "guessed" this
Damn I swear I "guessed" this yesterday but for some reason got flame-baited to death. NO love I swear!! http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/rivals-mike-says-today-i-think-michigan-woul...
June 12th, 2013 at 9:11 AM
#118
You have Rabacked
And you have survived. Bravo.
GIVE THIS MAN YOUR KUDOS. ALL OF THEM.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:21 AM
#119
I barely survived man! I
I barely survived man! I thought for sure I was going to Bolivia but I was lucky the plane was delayed and allowed reentry into the MgoCommunity!
June 12th, 2013 at 9:12 AM
#120
I'm sure you do understand
I'm sure you do understand why people would be skeptical about your statements. Nonetheles props (and a completely meaningless +1 for your correct prediction)
June 12th, 2013 at 9:31 AM
#121
I was obviously joking about
I was obviously joking about "being right" and for what it's worth I realized after I posted that most would doubt the info was accurate.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:41 AM
#122
Don't take it personally. Not
Don't take it personally. Not sure if you were around for the Roll Damn Tide fiasco, but we're all sorta in a once bitten, twice shy situation right now. Great, crowd sourced info like this is a big reason I visit the site, so keep it coming even if you get flamed (doubtful now that you've been vindicated big time).
June 12th, 2013 at 9:13 AM
#123
There's only so much you can
There's only so much you can learn about driving a train.
After about week three of class, I think all attention should be turned toward footbaw.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:24 AM
#124
It's true, they pretty much drive themselves
It's true, they pretty much drive themselves now.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:09 AM
#125
Pretty much sums up how I feel since I heard about
Pretty much sums up how I feel since I heard about the podcast.
http://i.imgur.com/rDFW9Kg.jpg
June 12th, 2013 at 9:15 AM
#126
Pretty much sums up how I feel
So what are you doing with your hands there?
June 12th, 2013 at 9:22 AM
#127
Oh Don, there are children
Oh Don, there are children present.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:16 AM
#128
"Hand told me Michigan's
"Hand told me Michigan's sports marketing professor, 'blew me, my coach and my dad away. My dad wanted to sign back up for school.' " -- TomVH
June 12th, 2013 at 9:20 AM
#129
Awkward...
...is when you're taking college classes with your dad.
This might not be a good development for Michigan.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:31 AM
#133
No need to be afraid of Alabama
I'm glad Hand is considering Alabama. Why wouldn't you want to go to one of the best football schools in the country, if you're one of the best athletes in the country? If Michigan wants to compete with the best, we need athletes who are considering going to Alabama, Florida, USC, LSU, Texas A & M, Ohio, Stanford, Texas, etc.
I also get tired of people who can't understand why someone would even consider another school academically. Alabama certainly isn't Michigan, but you can get a good education at a number of schools.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:51 AM
#134
Yep...only thing better than getting the #1 recruit is...
...out recruiting the #1 team/recruiting force in country to get him. :)
June 12th, 2013 at 10:52 AM
#135
Jim Harbaugh agrees....
Jim Harbaugh agrees....
(too soon?)
June 12th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
#136
I understand your point, but
I understand your point, but it's different with each recruit. I am surprised that someone who is as focused on academics as Hand is considering Alabama. To me that clearly indicates football is a priority over acadmics and that we are going to be in a dog fight for Hand.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:31 AM
#137
Signing Day is a long way
Signing Day is a long way away. Right now I like Michigan's chances, and for now that'll do. We've beaten Alabama before.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:34 AM
#138
I am frustrated
Why doesn't THE KNOWLEDGE just tell us where Hand will end up and save us all this heartache - I am frustrated because he just toys with my emotions...........
June 12th, 2013 at 11:40 AM
#139
He's too busy soaring.
He's too busy soaring.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:38 AM
#140
Hopefully this works out for
Hopefully this works out for 'Bammer about as well as trying to nab Henry Poggi at the last minute
June 12th, 2013 at 9:40 AM
#141
FWIW
Da'Shawn Hand on Smashmouth: Will take 5 officials. Alabama, Michigan, Florida, USC and LSU. That's the list. Won't change.
— Kevin Scarbinsky (@KevinScarbinsky) June 12, 2013
June 12th, 2013 at 9:47 AM
#142
That's some pretty good
That's some pretty good company.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
#143
Hey, where's Ohio State?
Hey, where's Ohio State?
June 12th, 2013 at 10:53 AM
#146
That's also the preseason top
That's also the preseason top 5 in 2015. Good choices.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:41 AM
#147
The only thing that hasn't changed with Hand is Michigan...
...I am good.
June 12th, 2013 at 9:43 AM
#148
According to Sam Webb
based on prior Hand claims that green is his man according to his latest tweet. Forgive me I am new and do not know how to embed tweets. However this has to be good for us
June 12th, 2013 at 12:47 PM
#149
Are you taking about Derrick
Are you taking about Derrick Green?
June 12th, 2013 at 2:29 PM
#150
YES
The aforementioned "green" you speak of is indeed Derrick Green
June 12th, 2013 at 9:43 AM
#151
Off topic but sort of on
Off topic but sort of on topic - how does Hand look relative to Clowney when he was coming out? Is Hand at that level of beastliness? Or is this a down year for DEs making him the default #1 so-to-speak?
June 12th, 2013 at 10:14 AM
#152
Clowney is a rare commodity.
Clowney is a rare commodity. It would be very difficult to expect a high school junior to compare with next year's potential #1 draft pick. That said, Hand is a beast and will be an impact player wherever he ends up (hopefully with the good guys).
June 12th, 2013 at 10:54 AM
#153
Many say Clowney would be the
Many say Clowney would be the #1 overall pick if college kids could come out after their frosh or soph years. So hard to compare people to a "generational" type of talent like that. With that said, Taylor contained him nicely ;)
June 12th, 2013 at 9:44 AM
#154
Who did Webb say
Would finish out the class again? I kinda forgot anyone remember the list?
June 12th, 2013 at 9:54 AM
#155
Here is the list
June 12th, 2013 at 9:52 AM
#156
Hand reportedly ain't
Hand reportedly ain't considering ohio because he wants to play school.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:02 AM
#157
This. This is good.
I think #Michigan is clearly the team to beat [email protected]dekeglahn: @rivalsmike who do you think the leader is?
— Mike Farrell (@rivalsmike) June 12, 2013
June 12th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
#158
Wow
Two bombshells in two days regarding Hand's recruitment. We have a puncher's chance w/ Hoke and Mattison. Not to mention Ferns and team 135 talking to him. Still shocked V Tech was dropped.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:09 AM
#159
Full quote (dunno who Hand was talking too)
"I eliminated Virginia Tech because they don't offer a sports marketing program. And with South Carolina, the professor just didn't wow us. I have the utmost respect for Virginia Tech and South Carolina, and their coaches, and wish them the best of luck.
At Michigan, the [sports marketing] program was so impressive, I wanted to sign up right there. During my visit to Alabama, I met the dean of their [sports marketing] program, and it's an excellent program. He actually played football, and he gets it. And I haven't been to Florida, yet, but I've heard their defensive coaching staff and that defensive line with coach [Brad] Lawig and coach D.J. Durkin is amazing. And Alabama's engineering program was working on a $25M project when I was down there."
June 12th, 2013 at 10:13 AM
#160
I feel positive that we are a
I feel positive that we are a strong contendor for the #1 player in the country. If you look at his final 5 teams, that's pretty good company. For some reason I have been kind of "meh" regarding his final choice. But now I'm starting to believe we could actually land the #1 and #2 players in the country and all this after an 8-5 season. Do you think this is an anomaly and these guy's personalities just happened to match up with Michigans or could this be more of the norm for the future?
June 12th, 2013 at 10:25 AM
#161
The norm as long as the
The norm as long as the recruiting success translates to performance on the field.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:01 AM
#162
Peppers is a unique case in
Peppers is a unique case in that Michigan was his childhood dream team. Consider his top 2 of Stanford and Michigan. Let's be blunt and say that is not the normal top 2 for a top 5 team, even as homers. You'd usually have a few SEE EEE CEEE teams in there, a USC, a Michigan/OSU/ND mix etc.
Hand is unique just from a personality standpoint and again its a weird top 2 (or was a weird top 2) in that none of the typical players were involved again ... well until today with the new top 3.
I think the other thing that helps here is these are east coast kids and college football is not huge on the east coast in terms of national powers. When a kid from New Jersey or Virginia is top 5 rather than a kid from Florida, Texas, Cal, Ohio, PA etc it opens up the roadmap more. Contrast this with Fournette which is basically a LSU lean and until recently no one thought would even look outside the "normal characters".
June 12th, 2013 at 11:05 AM
#163
I see Fournette as a
I see Fournette as a Treadwell type guy. Heavy lean to a particular school for the entirety of the process. We point to a lot of Michigan recruits as trying to find a reason not to commit. It works both ways, so maybe Fournette has stated LSU leads, but isn't in love with them as much as many think. Man, is my glass full, but I feel like we have a shot...
June 12th, 2013 at 11:34 AM
#164
Regarding Treadwell . . .
I think that from what Laura Hoke said to me, Treadwell was someone who was wowed by a "red carpet" experience. He (and his mom) liked all the bells and whistles and steak and lobster and bling. That is NOT Hoke or Mattison or Borges, and they're not going to change. They're not going to coddle a recruit and promise the sun, moon and stars, and then things change once you're on the team.
One of the things that has been consistent with the recruits coming in is that they know what they're getting at Michigan. Michigan in and of itself has great facilities, coaches, and the like. But partly this is a personality thing. Some people like to be wowed, some people like it straight.
I'll tell you a personal story by way of analogy. I remember when I first met my wife, thinking, wow, she looks pretty good without makeup, etc. There were other girls who might have looked better when they were all dolled up, but they took a half hour or so to put on their makeup every morning, and weren't that good looking without putting all this stuff on. I thought to myself, I like the way my wife looks, with or without makeup. I'd like waking up next to her. I liked that I saw the real woman, and was still pleased.
Hand strikes me as one of those no nonsense guys, no BS guys, what you see is what you get. He wants the same from coaches or programs he is looking at.
Now, Fournette, I know nothing about. But I'd tend to think that he is a guy who wants to work hard and be around good coaches and good athletes who are willing to do what it takes to win. Especially with Peppers, but possibly Hand and a few others, and the coaching rep of Mattison (possibly Borges,) he could see a good thing building here. And want to be part of it.
June 12th, 2013 at 1:15 PM
#165
Along with that
I really haven't seen any interviews with Fournette. Take it FWIW, but that probably means he's really not a flashy, attention-seeking guy, and just likes to be low-key. If that's the case, and we get him to visit, we really may have a chance.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:09 AM
#166
Both
On the one hand, I think it's clear we are going to be recruiting at a very high level for the foreseeable future. On the other hand, I do think the stars aligned at least a little bit - how often is it that both the #1 and #2 players are truly that dedicated to academics and finding the right SCHOOL (not just the right football program) and it's not just the usual lip service?
June 12th, 2013 at 10:17 AM
#167
Hoke beat out Meyer, now it's
Hoke beat out Meyer, now it's his turn to beat out Saban.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:25 AM
#168
We've beat Saban before for
We've beat Saban before for D-linemen (Pipkins and Poggi). We can do it again.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:34 AM
#169
When's the BBQ?
Whenever Da'Shawn Hand is free.
/s (?)
June 12th, 2013 at 10:36 AM
#170
re: Alabama, the Sports
re: Alabama, the Sports Management graduate program is part of their Human Environmental Sciences department. Although there is no sports mgmt undergrad major/concentration, it'd be easy enough based on what i'm seeing in the course catalog to design a custom curriculum with a sports/general management focus, and they do have a sports mgmt elective (although it's just a single course). Could be what they're selling to Hand.
June 12th, 2013 at 10:44 AM
#171
So apparently OSU fans are
So apparently OSU fans are convinced that Meyer is too intense and business-like for him, and he was never a right fit for their program anyway, and yet somehow, he's interested in Saban and Alabama?
Wonder if it ever occurred to them that Hand just flat out might not like their program or their school?
June 12th, 2013 at 11:39 AM
#172
Or their coach
It's the relationship. I also don't see Saban having anything in common with Hoke personality-wise. I hope that is in our favor. I think it is.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:52 AM
#173
This is true
Urban much like Saban is very slick and business like. He came away from osu unimpressed. Advantage :The Good Guys
June 12th, 2013 at 10:50 AM
#174
Ugh...
247's CEO just switched his pick from UM to Alabama. Genuine perspective or whorish move to drive clicks?
June 12th, 2013 at 11:02 AM
#175
Business move! Sleezy.
Business move! Sleezy.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:01 AM
#176
Shocked I seen this. Fellow
Shocked I seen this. Fellow wolves, lets not rule out Nick Satan! What a change of events quickly...due to this not making much sense scares me. Due to VT being hometown I thought would be in it due to respect.
Go get em Mattison!!!
This is why you come to Michigan, suck it bama.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:04 AM
#177
Hand me an answer please
Is Hand coming to Night game vs Notre Shame?
Please tell me yes?
If so lock it up done deal.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:05 AM
#178
Tom Brady
Also heard Tom Brady might be at that game!
June 12th, 2013 at 11:06 AM
#179
Yes. That game will have
Yes. That game will have more 5 stars on the sidelines than on the playing field... awesome.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:12 AM
#180
Amen.
Amen.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:44 AM
#181
I appreciate the extent of your fandom...
But I thought nicknames like these were left to State and Ohio fans....
June 12th, 2013 at 11:11 AM
#182
Here is how you get Hand to
Here is how you get Hand to Michigan!
Firefox one- Ferns
Firefox 2 - peppers
Firefox 3 - have Charles wodsoon say hi.
Atom bomb. - Gregory Mattison
Welcome Da Shawn :-)
June 12th, 2013 at 11:31 AM
#183
Edit: it's been moved to
Edit: it's been moved to diaries. I am not a smart man.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:46 AM
#184
I think the fact that with
I think the fact that with this staff what you see is what you get will play a deciding role in Hand's choice.
June 12th, 2013 at 11:59 AM
#185
Trying not to be excited and
Trying not to be excited and failing miserably. If we land Hand, already having Peppers on board, we are talking about an historic class in terms of its top layer. Just WOW.
June 12th, 2013 at 12:02 PM
#186
Due to a vicious tackle that
Due to a vicious tackle that may or may not have actually happened (I get forgetful whenever Michigan loses) in last year's bowl game, I like to stay away from the word "Clowney" or any variation of that.
June 12th, 2013 at 1:01 PM
#187
Hand
This is the first time i can actually say all i want is hand
June 12th, 2013 at 1:19 PM
#188
Hahaha
If would love to up vote this I'd I wasn't on my phone!!
June 12th, 2013 at 1:20 PM
#189
And the autocorrect shows it.
And the autocorrect shows it.
June 12th, 2013 at 1:17 PM
#190
This must have been the story
This must have been the story that spiked all the crystal ball predictions because Bama, Florida, and Michigan all got a few more votes today.
June 12th, 2013 at 2:15 PM
#191
Sucks to be Virginia Tech fan today.
Sucks to be Virginia Tech fan today.
June 12th, 2013 at 3:16 PM
#192
Juwan"a" know Mo Ways to Chase championships?
You grow ferns and peppers in your backyard and Mone Drake.
Then go down to Marshall and start Bunting for Cole.
On your way back, stop in Ohio and get a Hand-job
You will wake up the next day a champion
June 12th, 2013 at 5:57 PM
#193
I see what you did there
Props, however, an Ohioan hand job sounds repulsive and dirty.
June 12th, 2013 at 3:37 PM
#194
To everyone unsure of Hand's
To everyone unsure of Hand's excitement over Bama's engineering program, while ours is clearly superior, you have to realize that our program is extremely intense, both in course difficulty and in workload, and your average football player can't just take a couple of engineering classes, pass them easily, and walk away with a degree. Guys like Jordan Morgan are absolutely the exception. What I get from him being impressed by Alabama's program is less "it's the best I've ever seen!" and more "it's the best I've ever seen that I could reasonably balance with being a star athlete at a major university," which I think is reasonable. The head of the department being a "football guy" just says to me that he understands what Hand's football workload will be like, and won't make his life impossible with academics, as Michigan's elite engineering program would do.
June 12th, 2013 at 7:03 PM
#195
Sports Marketing
I thought I saw a tweet from Tom V that he wants to study sports marketing. Which is why he eliminated VT.
June 12th, 2013 at 4:41 PM
#196
I remember
the crystal ball was 75% VT and 25% Michigan before the announcement. With the other 75% being removed, we have 25 of a total 25% percent chance to land him. We win!!!!!
June 12th, 2013 at 6:05 PM
#197
Only school out of those
Only school out of those other four (including the two that "could" get visits) that concerns me is Alabama, and that didn't concern me until the rumblings that have just recently been coming out. Until last week, I would have considered this a lock (basically us and then putting a couple others out there to make it feel like a contest) but now I see it as maybe 75% us, 25% Alabama.
