Darius Morris Trash Talking: Too High a Standard?

We bought T shirts with that on it.  That was trash talk.  After Lucas dropped those Mfers last year on our court, I like that we had guys who's said I'm sick of this crap.  It's a rivalry the passion is going to lead to this type of stuff.  It's a good thing, it's swagger.

Trash talking has been part of this game/rivalry at least since Scott Skiles and Antoine Joubert, and probably longer than that.  Skiles and Joubert were just the first to get publicity for it.  When it was Skiles getting the better of it, Sparty didn't whine, bitch, or moan about "sportsmanship."  They only whine when they are the recipients of what they normally give. 

And for anyone wanting to link trash talking to any particular segment of society or culture: don't kid yourself.  Amateur golfers in their morning foursomes and league bowlers have talked trash for years.  They usually keep it lighter and a lot funnier, but it is still trash talking.  Even little league baseball players still say "hey, batter batter" while trying to distract the hitter.  And the things we used to say growing up in the 60's in our neighborhood football, tackle basketball, and baseball games make "get the fuck off my court" sound pretty tame. 

So, it all comes back to being sore losers.  MSU fans and players seem to feel, individually and collectively, that they can do and say whatever they want, but if someone does it to them, it is suddenly UNACCEPTABLE.

When Skiles got into Joubert's head, I thought it was funny and I thought Joubert was mentally weak,  Now, over twenty years later, I think Morris is funny and Lucas is mentally weak. 

Sauce for the goose, and all that....

Someone (not a Sparty fan) who says he saw a replay of the scrap between D Morris and Lucas told me that after Lucas mouthed back, Morris took a swing at him. I missed the entire exchange after the game was over, but I haven't heard (or read) anyone else say that DM tried to hit Lucas. Can anyone verify whether this is true? Thanks.

...exactly what he said, but if his body language were different and if he didn't step to Lucas like he wanted a confrontation, he wouldn't have had a ball shoved in his face and no one would have even heard this ever happened.

Body language and stepping to someone will get the emotions riled regardless of what is said.

We're blowing this completely out of proportion.  Here is the brawl at the end of the game:

And here is the unbridled massacre in the handshake lines:

I didnt have any problems with what Morris did or allegedly said.

Its about time the basketball program had a little swagger.

You earn the right to talk when you've won the undisputed State Championship

I have no problem with the trask talk.  None.  It's basketball.  It's a part of the game.  Lucas was talking shit to the press before the game.  Morris wants to respond to the guy?  Good.  "Get the fuck off my court"?  Good.  He earned the right to talk trash.

Perhaps more importantly, the MSU coaches have opened this door.  While Izzo's "promise" isn't exactly shocking language, it was the first shot.  Of course, Dantonio was much more public and shit-talking in ripping Michigan (and opening the entire Little Brother back-and-forth).  The problem to me is only with the MSU coaches who talk trash to kids and then act like they are mortally offended to learn that a kid talks shit back.

Get the fuck off my court!

It shouldn't have happened but it's being blown way out of proportion.  Izzo should not have added fuel to the fire with his comments afterward...he should have stayed above it.  Fact is MSU, particularly Lucas and Izzo, are coming off as sore losers...this obviously isn't an outcome they ever envisioned.  We've seen plenty of trash talk and gloating out of them over the years.

For anyone offended by trash talk during a game, I'm just curious:

When you play a pickup game against your friend, do you never talk any smack?  Heck, how about when you're playing a video game against him?

What a lot of people don't understand is that these guys often know each other very well, from their time at high school camps and AAU, and in fact, they're often good friends off the court.  When you go up against someone you know, that gives you even more fuel for the fire.  99% of the time, these guys have no issue with it after the game.

Izzo's whole Capt. Renault act (I'm shocked!  Shocked to find that trash talking is going on in here!) is probably more an attempt to change the subject away from the loss (and especially, the fact that he promised a victory and didn't deliver).

The only person who's making this an issue is Izzo. Even Kalin shrugged it off. Izzo, like Dantonio, like the school, fans flames because both he and Sparty have a profound inferiority complex re Michigan. You'd think they would be past that by now, given MSU on-field successes in recent years. But no. Deep down, they know that the world doesn't really give a shit about MSU's teams; that it's only a matter of time before Michigan returns Sparty to its also-ran status; and that MSU is a second-rate university (unless you major in dentistry, hotels, or sofa-burning). Amid all the recent losses, did you ever see an M coach whine about trash-talking or "disrespect"? Big brothers don't whine when they lose. Little brothers do. 

Little Giant Bitches.

Lucas and Green talk shit all day long. That's what they do. Now that they have lost, they can't take the trash talk that they received... Their not used to it. So stay classy Darius give em what they want. 

I believe my mgosignature shows where I stand here.

Izzo is the baby here, and no one else.

Darius did nothing wrong. I expect trash talking in a rivalry like this, and I'm sure Darius took it for the games last year and was returning the favor. He also made some sweet moves to make that lay-up happen, so I'd say he earned it. Its also not like we were up by 10+, either.

Lucas also did nothing wrong. I'm sure he was feeling the pressure of how poorly this year has gone, and he has every reason to be upset. Again, I expect stuff like that in this rivalry.

Izzo is the one who's doing it wrong. No coach should whine to the media like that, especially when the players in question play it down. He's shown himself to be just like Dantonio a few years ago. "Little Brother" didn't stick because Mike Hart said it, it stuck because Dantonio reacted to it unbecoming of his position, just like Izzo did yesterday. I don't feel bad in the least. Izzo has his ups and downs with his conduct, but he's done plenty to us over the years such that he has zero right to be mad about a layup with 3 seconds left when the lead is still single-digits before and after. He's a baby, and I hope this bothers him all off-season.

It deserves a place at the end of the highlight reel as the summation of the season sweep, as far as I am concerned. Classic stuff. 

What's great about this is that Lucas will probably never be able to avenge this oh-so-horrific shit-talking as he goes off to be a mediocre professional player and (likely) human being.

On the last part I actually do hope I'm wrong (really I do) but, you know...I can only go by what I see.

That was a great taunting opportunity and I'm glad Morris didn't let it go to waste.

The media got this all wrong.

He was talking to someone from MSU.

That means he was talking to trash, not "talking trash."