Dantonio on MSU's OL injury issues " We've got guys on scholarship, and we're not sitting here going into fall camp with 9 guys on scholarship like some people are"
per UMGoBlog twitter
can't I see your comment on the website?
Edit: I can see it on the mobile app but not on the main website.
Honestly, has there ever been a better coach-school fit than Dantonio-MSU?
Tressel doesn't remind me much of the OSU fanbase.
..Then again...Tress is win at all costs. You've just convinced me.
is not many schools Charlie Weis can fit into...
I AM THIS TOWN!!!
What a weak point. He obviously didn't attend "To The Point: How I Harnessed the Power of the Digit" at the Brady Hoke School for Coaches Who Can't Point Very Good. Leave the pointing to people who know how to wield its power.
is wimpy like he wants a butterfly to land on his finger
Eat said butterfly? (Yes, Charlie Weis fat-jokes are still funny.)
Note to Charlie Weis: butterflys are NOT made of actual butter...sorry.
then get got smart and he went to florida, they sit at home eating cheeseburgers and pass people in the polls.
Oh noes...the dreaded double point.
not, "I AM THIS TOWN," he's saying "I ATE THIS TOWN."
I know that guy. He's gonna be on Dancing with the Stars.
although, I must say USC + Lane Kiffen is just as good.
Not to take away from your excellent comment, but Kiffin wasn't too bad a fit with Tennessee either.
Nick Saban and Alabama are a perfect fit too.
JLS was a pretty good fit.
Say his name in East Lansing and people go nuts.
Trust me, I know.
area on business often. I do not mention anything about UM/MSU sports because they have 6' antenna, a fight waiting to happen.
Or worse of MSU. I think Dantonio would make a better Buckeye.
I think all this talk of 'fit' stirs up some very interesting observations, so im going to throw my two sense in for the hell of it. Dantonio is a great fit for MSU, because like everyone I know at MSU hes always trying to point out where hes better than Michigan. I agree with you all in that Tress wasnt a great fit for the Ohio fanbase, and that many coaches out there are not great fits for their fanbases. Other coaches that are perfect fits for their schools/fanbases would be Brady-UM, Mack Brown-Texas, Fitzgerald-NU, Bielema-Wisco, Ferentz-Iowa (because both are so boring). Im also going to throw it out there, one of the best school coach fits I can think of in recent memory has to be RichRod-WVU...he just fit there.
But still, nice point.
Brady Hoke at Michigan
During the ND game on my 46" HD TV.....lots of priceless dumbfoundeders
46 inch? pshhhhh, 54 in 3d plasma......POW
Oh look it's that douchey MGoBlog user.
Potbelly's stock options vested it was all models and bottles from then on.
"I have come to realize that the students that go here are over-privileged, whiny rich kids who don't know jack shit about the real world."
I bet he would like to have the #1 OL recruiting class in the country.......like some people do.
Just gotta wait for those national recruits to come in. I'm terrified of what a recruiting power MSU is nationally.
But are they selling Michigan State jerseys in Ohio?
what hell people think about the rivalry now?
Both of them are sold, but it took about 14 months.
I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start.
now count as another state?
and, regarding Dantonio...douches and brah's
Ricky and Julians O-Line class, Mr. Lahey.
over 20 of theirs. Quality > quantity
watching his facial expressions in 4 weeks when he realizes that the joy ride is over.
Its statements like these that continue to support the "little brother" label.
I agree completely. It's amazing how whenever their program is criticized, sparties immediately launch into little brother mode with the "we do this better than Michigan" when Michigan isn't even part of the conversation.
An excellent example of this was yesterday afternoon on 97.1 by my least favorite Sparty and radio personality (no not Valenti). Caputo apprently took exception to Fithian's comment about how MSU never shows up on a national stage, which is mostly true. Caputo's response to this is, "We showed up when the lights were brightest at Michigan last year and ran them up and down the field" Michigan wasn't even part of the conversation.
Gunderson and Mateus say "haters gonna hate"
"The field goal at the end of the half, my call, didn't work," Dantonio said. "But I don't think that's why we lost the game. But I'll take the blame for that"
He doesn't think that's why they lost the game, so he'll take the blame. Otherwise, it's all on the kids.
And yet our OL is still better...even when you bring in a bunch of JUCOs to fill the voids.
Is "Little Giants" a play on "Little Brother"? In other words, "no we're not Little Brother, we're GIANTS WATCH US ROAR!"
Dant seemed so satisfied with himself in giving the play name to the reporter - why would you give the name of the play, unless it was top of mind (and therefore had significance)?
Further indication of obsession if he's naming his plays after this meme.
after a movie starring the great Devon Sawa as "Junior Flyod".
It's probably my second favorite Sawa Performance.
I had never even considered that, yet it makes perfect sense. My god they really do have a complex up there, like, whoah.
This is sarcasm, right? Because it makes no sense.
Why doesn't it?
I thought crazy people had compounds and not complexes. Complexes seem to be reserved for supervillain types.
Very few people realize how @#$%ed up ND was on that last play. A trick was more than moderately probable on a FG of that length.
OK, I get the dig...but how many do they have? They just moved a guy from DL to OL so they can't have many more, right? Or maybe have more, but they just all suck. Is that better? I just don't get it.
Duh, you just keep moving more defensive players to the offensive side of the ball and they get perma-better. National recruiting, criminals, cows, slap. The pieces are all there, someone make the joke for me.
Can you explain to me the dig? Is it cheating to have 9? Isn't it his job to ensure depth through recruiting? I don't get it.
I took it as him ripping us for having only 9 guys on scholarship, saying we have a bigger problem than he has. But if he's moving guys over from the defense, then I don't think it's the case.
So he's complaining that they didn't do their own job in regards to recruiting? What year is he in over there?
I thought he was referring to the fact that Michigan only has 9 scholarship OL to start the year. Which doesn't make sense because MSU obviously didn't have a bunch either.
He thinks he's in better shape on the Oline than UM? This makes my head hurt
I'm not sure. I'm confused as well, but that's my take on his answer. He is commenting that they have depth on OL, aka more than 9 scholarship players. Which is fine, except that he just shifted a DL back to OL, suggesting he doesn't have enough depth at OL.
In other news, Mark Dantonio is an idiot.
Yeah, it all doesn't make sense. Does he have more bodies than us on the OL? If he's ripping our numbers, then I would think he does, but the fact that they're moving guys suggests otherwise, especially considering they don't have much depth at DT either.
The other think about their OL numbers is that I think the only have three guys redshirting this year, and only one of them was sought after at all. Their numbers won't be getting much better at OL next year (not that ours really will either).
I thought they were recruiting GALACTICALLY because they are RESTORING the GLORY.
What a f*ckface.
Heard Zoidberg is picking between MSU and Nexelmatica Intergalatic National Football's team next week.
He needs to learn how to count. We've got 10 guys on scholarship.
now we just need to flip a few DL to OL so we can up our numbers.
You know counting isn't Sparty's strong suit.
So, is Dantonio counting the THREE (3!!) guys on theircurrent OL two-deep they've flipped from the D since the end of last year. Or the JUCU recruit whose only been with them for less a month.
Yes, Mork, it is indeed good to have all those Schollie players on the OL. Too bad you dont really have them either....
The title of this thread should just be, "Dantonio, what a Dantonio"
So, if someone does something douchy, I can simply say that the person pulled a "Dantonio" from now on? Outstanding!
....that if someone ever needs a cavity cleaned out, they must need a good Dantonio-ing.
(e.g., "Before they performed the procedure, they Dantonio-ed my colon.")
I just saw an advertisement for a new product that is set to hit drug stores nationwide: Summer's Eve Dantonio (comes in assorted fragrances).
you had a great opportunity and missed.
I can't get over the fact that this guy is supposed to be a grown up.
I'm surprised he didn't try to quote some scripture, also.
But I keep being reminded by Pat Caputo and Mike Valenti that Dantonio owns this state. Why he mad?
I knew they were desperate for money in Lansing, but I didn't realize they sold the whole state. Does that include the Mackinac Bridge? What about the Soo Locks? Did Canada at least put up a counter offer?
I'm very confused as to what this quote means...that M did their diligence and actually has backups? I mean shit we are freaking out because next years two deep is going to include a lot of those steller incoming frosh's Hoke is pulling in.
but I bet any one of them would be a starter on MSU's line right now.
I would agree with you on everyone except Joel Foreman. He is a very solid guard and could start on any line in the B1G.
Foreman was brutal, desperately had to tackle ND D lineman to keep Cousins in one piece. He had multiple holding calls on one drive in the 4th quarter alone.
I'm not going to asess a lineman on one game in his 4 year career. He was all-conference last year.
I was trying to say that Dantonio could take any of our 9 guys and he would easily start somewhere on that line, not necessarily that all 9 guys are better than the entirety of their hodge-podge of Joel Foreman, JuCos and converted DTs
"Coach D is embedded in their collective heads. They hinge on everything he says trying to somehow figure out how it might be a slight towards them. I love it."
makes perfect sense...
9 > however the hell many Dantonio thinks he has
Wow. It takes a real man to stand up and say things that are directly contradicted by cold hard statistics. I'm not even mad - I'm impressed with his set of balls!
since we have 10, not 9.
1. Lewan, 2. Barnum, 3. Molk, 4. Omameh, 5. Huyge, 6. Schofield, 7. Khoury, 8. Mealer, 9. Miller, 10. Bryant.
Plus, only 2 are graduating. We have, as of now, 5 coming in next year. That gives us 13 for next year, but probably more since Hoke seems to be wanting to take at least another OL recruit still.
Also, next year's starting OL is going to be all juniors/seniors (Lewan, Barnum, Khoury, Omameh, Schofield)..so yeah. I'm pretty okay with the way our OL looks right now.
It's probably because Rivals listed Miller as a DL.
Hopefully our lack of depth won't be an issue this year. It's certainly getting addressed in a spectacular fgashion.
And we have Q and BWC in reserve (both with experience on the OL!).
shake in awe el douche!
who is supposed to be at fault for having enough guys on scholarship? is he saying that he has more injuries than normal? or is he saying that 9 is too many or not enough? i am not sure this is even about UM.
if you google "msu roster" it asks you "Did you mean: lsu roster "
who cares what dantonio says
The Situation cares.
Dantonio wants UM/msu to be a huge rivalry so fucking bad. Being a dick is the only way he knows how to keep people talking about it. Face it douchebag, noboby gives a shit about msu.
He is so fucking pathetic, all he does is COMPLETELY reinforce the "little brother" bullshit. He absolutely sounds like a whiny little brother would right now.
His juvenile inferiority complex about Michigan is just sad. You had a good team last year, you won. You also had 2 lucky as shit wins against 2 teams that were statistically the worst teams in Michigan history, and 1 loss where you blew the game in complete MSU fashion.
You lost every single recruiting batte this year that included players that could actually get accepted into Michigan, the writing is on the wall.
He is that obsessed with Michigan to the point he knows how many scholarship players we have at each position group? Get a life brah!
but laugh every time I see "brah".
Far be it for me to go against the collective perception of the board that "Dantonio=obsessed douche" but uh...Pot meet Kettle?
We're the ones who just posted an article about an innocuous statement that he made. He just trolled the fuck out of you all.
Thank you. I've been thinking this the whole time I was reading these comments.
Who cares about this guy? He's just another faceless coach of another program that I couldn't care less about.
I can see why people obsess about Ohio or Notre Dame. Those are programs that have similar history, offer significant competition to us on a number of different levels and have a national relevance similar to ours. I don't get the obsession with MSU.
MSU is a decent program and yes, I get that they're in our state, but they and their douchebag of a coach are at a decidedly second tier to us. I know that and I suspect most of their fans know that too (which is why things like the Little Brother and the Sparty comments raise such ire).
They had a good year last year and have beaten us a couple of times in a row, but they've hit their ceiling. I mean does anyone honestly believe that they're going to win 10+ games anytime over the next couple of years? Win the B1G anytime soon? Go to a BCS game? Get a Top 10 recruiting class?
No, I don't either and so, I'll worry more about Ohio or Wisconsin or Nebraska-- you know, B1G teams that actually matter.
having a worse than normal Michigan team in the past few years, coupled with a decent MSU team the last few years has equaled MSU beating Michigan three years in a row and giving their fans a false image of where their program stands in the grand scheme of college football on the whole.
I'm just pumped for week 5 when MSU goes down to OSU.
pleasepleasepleaseletthembe. derp face'n you all
I have absolutely no idea what he is complaining about. Okay, you didn't recruit enough guys and are running out of OL players. How is that anyone else's fault? Dantonio coached for at Cincinatti for 2 years, and has been at MSU for 5 years now, so I can safely presume that he is at least 7. Which means that he should be able to count the number of offensive linemen he has on his team at any given time, count the number of years of eligiblity each has, and figure out that you need to have at least as many coming in as are going out if you want to keep your depth chart up.
I always thought he was a hack, and ranting about how some other team maintains its own depth chart while implicitly blaming them for your own failings (which is a mental exercise that hurts my brain just thinking about it) is just idiotic.
It is probably good that his team plays in the Legends division, since his whininess is truly legendary.
Simply not true. It's not a case of not recruiting enough bodies, but it's just a string of very bad luck with injuries and attrition. Breakdown by class:
- Arthur Ray Jr (Army All American) gets leg cancer, and his career gets sidelined
- Chase Dumphord....transfers
- Jared McGaha...MCL Sprain...out several weeks.
- Anthony Woods...transfers
- Zach Heuter...career ending back injury
- David Barrent...career ending back injury...leaves school.
- Blake Treadwell...MCL Sprain, out several weeks
- Nate Klatt...broke foot in spring
- Henry Conway...C-1 fracture last spring....still sidelined
- Skyler Burkland (Schoefner)....broken ankle....out most of season
- Travis Jackson....high ankle sprain.....hasn't played yet.
These make the secondary problems Michigan had last year seem miniscule.
But hey, who am I to let facts get in the way of whatever it was you were trying to say about recruiting. Carry on.
Going into this year, the one team I wanted us to beat above all others was tsio. I'm still sticking with that, but man oh man Dantonio is making me think really hard about my decision.
Why should he even bother to know that, let alone bring it up?
because I'm guessing most coaches know about the starting line-ups and depth of the teams they have to play. That's how they game plan and stuff.
msu and their fans have become unbearable, this is why I wanted ND to crush them.
Bulleting board material? Maybe not, but still a petty gibe. This guy is such a jackass and this nails it -"Honestly, has there ever been a better coach-school fit than Dantonio-MSU?"
Soon enough my friends, he will live and die by his sword (words).
Yeah well we're not sitting here going into Week 4 at 2-1.
Let's face it, the guy walks around with an ubiquitous scowl that that suggests not much happiness and good feelings inside. Even when he manages a smile, like on the fake fg last season vs. ND, it appears doing so requires a great amount of energy and seldom used facial muscles, resulting in what appears, thankfully to all looking on, an extremely short, awkward facial tic rather than a physical suggestion of happiness. He is the typical guy in the bar, no matter how non-judgemental you think you might be, that would cause you to make an exception.
I don't know if this is a result of having read more of what he had to say about UM prior to actually looking at him on the sidelines, but the bottom line is the same. He simply comes across as one who would more than likely be judged, on first sight, as reflecting a personality polar opposite of magnetic. When he speaks, all preconceived judgements are borne out.
I will give him credit for his modest success at MSU, but I cannot do so without adding the caveat that he did so during the only time in recent memory that UM was in full rebuild mode. He won't sustain this, and his inability to provide a record similar to last season's in 2011 will reflect the fact that his is a program not unlike most other coaches have managed in E.L. That being, of course, a few decent campaigns, maybe an exceedingly good one now and then, by their standards, but nothing that will even suggest that MSU is a national player.
In making such a statement, a logical person would conclude that a team with "such incredible depth" along the offensive front, would have totaled roughly 200 yards more than what they managed last Saturday. The loss of their starting RT for the season only hurts a very thin and young line. He may be factually correct in stating they have (pick a number Mark) of OL on scholarship, but he failed to add that among his magical number exists quite a few emergency converts from the DL. So in effect, he has a thin starting OL, made thinner with the injury, and a bunch of young men who are still, in the nicest description possible, very much in the developmental stage.
A wise man, no matter where he coaches, is best served to keep verbal attacks against opponents at a minimum. A person coaching in EL would be best served to avoid this type of behavior period. My only wish for him is that he stay there long enough to experience the comeuppance that is due anyone that so proudly displays his ignorance.
"When my team was down to Notre Dame late in the first half, my answer was not to pull some JV football trick play out of the bag." Then Hoke paused and bluntly said, "Nevermind, that's how you get a tri-championship when you didn't deserve one in the first place."
Fuck Dantonio and anybody who doesn't see that bullt shit.
What a doucholic...15 Oct,can't get here fast enough.
But why everyone so mad. Pride comes before the fall I hear from some of you but some of you love the fact that Mike Hart called them little brother. Since he said that we are 0-3.
Hart did his job, not his fault that we fielded MAC level teams for the last 3 years.
The irony in the thread is amazing.
Dantonio makes what may or may not be a reference to Michigan. Then we get well over a hundred comments about how Dantonio turns everything into a Michigan thing, as if we're not doing the same thing.
Why is that ironic? That is exactly what we should all expect.
(1) We're fans; he's the coach.
(2) He brought this up out of nowhere and we're reacting to it.
(3) It's a shockingly defensive (i.e. non-accountable) response from a Big Ten coach.
on your wedding day
Michigan should beat Michigan State and not brag about it, that would be the nail in Dantonio's coffin. He's not worth any attention from Michigan. He can sit up in his room all day obsessing over UofM, while Michigan is focused on winning every game.
Re: dantonio's obsession
have to root for MSU against OSU. Can't ever root for OSU. Ever.
Root for the Meteor.
Just when I was running out of reasons to dismiss Dantonio as ignorant. The apple doesn't fall far from the (buckeye) tree. I can't wait until THE_KNOWLEDGE's vision for MSU comes to fruition and they somehow become more insignificant.
The BTN interview in which he said beating Michigan "made him feel complete". Can you imagine Bo, Carr, Hooke or even john Cooper saying somthin like that about a rivak? The guy is obsessed with Michigan and therefore ithe perfect fit for Lil' Bro.
ANOTHER STUPID FUCKING THREAD. GET OFF THE DANTONIO GIG.
another thread about conference realignment? I hear the SWAC is making some power moves...
Why did you even click on this?
I heard Notre Dame might go to the MAC. It makes sense since the MAC is mostly a midwest conference and Notre Dame can probably beat them.
I consider myself to be an above-average fan, and I didn't even know how many scholarship OL Michigan has right now.
"What's your deal?"
- Pete Carroll
Didn't I see this stupid shit posted already? FUCK DANTONIO AND FUCK THE SPARTANS......GO BLUE!!!!!
I keep expecting to see Dantonio make the Troll Face after every statement. Or he really is going Little Brah all over the place.
Remember that this is the guy who has never heard of Brandstatter.
We've got ten on scholarship, so he didn't even get the number right.