Good to see he has some class. Still hate him though.
Dantonio tells players to "keep their mouths shut" re: Michigan/Bama
He still exhibits the seven habits of highly toolish people, but I'm glad he said something.
Ah, yes. The Franklin Douchy System.
The douchey decimal system?
System. Class? What class? marky mark doesnt care about class. He is just worried that we will use it against him. If we didnt play moo U this year, he would have been his normal self.
I'm not surprised that he told them to shut it but I am surprised how he actually made reference to there Bama game.
State also got they're asses kicked in there game.
The misuse of their/there/they're is one of my biggest pet peeves. Ugh.
I wonder how much of his comments have to do with the UM-MSU rivalry. In recent years, MSU has had the upper hand and, arguably, more talent. With graduation, maybe he realizes this year's game is a toss up, if not leaning towards Michigan.
shit! I should have seen what I did their before I posted it.
Either that or kudos to the public relations director at MSU finally doing his/her job . . .
I know Im late to the party, but I just saw this on Sportscenter. I actually think Dantonio was being genuine in his disappointment over the tweets. Im surprised by this as he is usually a smug, arrogant piece of shit. But I gained a wee little bit of respect for him today.
And when I saw him say it rather than just the words, he seemed all sincere and responsible. It was weird....gave me an icky feeling inside.
Can someone give a summary of what was said to begin with?
Delvon Roe a former Spartan said things on twitter talking about how Michigan was getting raped ala Sandusky and other crap like that, basically the mindset that always will make them lil bro unless they learn to act like they've been there before.
"Is this guy really a QB I'll say my mans @TommyVento16 is a better QB lol," linebacker Denicos Allen tweeted, referencing Michigan State's walk-on quarterback. "S/O to my boy vento by the way."
Added safety Kyle Artinian, "Bama why are you such a bully!? Let them get maybe a yard...."
And when Robinson hooked up with Jeremy Gallon for a 71-yard completion late in the second quarter, running back Nick Hill said, "Even a blind squirrel can get a nut ever once in a while..."
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120902/SPORTS0202/209020346#ixzz25WHQ0HA4
Didn't Hill grow up a big UM fan? Can someone really lose their/there/they're affection for a team that quickly?
Btw, kudos for Dantonio showing some class. If we are going to bash the guy for acting like a douche (which he admittedly has), we need to acknowledge when he demonstrates some class. I think he has a pretty good idea that MSU would have gotten curbstomped about as badly as UM did.
Maybe you're not aware, but that's how about 90% of them become MSU fans, at least the ones on this side of the state. They grow up loving Michigan, get rejected from Michigan and then vow to hate Michigan with every bone in their body. That or their parents grew up Michigan fans, got rejected, then vowed to hate Michigan for eternity. Not saying I blame them, but it is usually how it works.
The upside to getting your ass kicked by Alabama: you've got plenty of (dis)respectable company. I'm sure Les Miles is calling up Hoke right now and asking for tips on how you get across the 50 yard line.
Dantonio said the right thing this time. That Sandusky comment made (the only one I saw because it was on the front page) was pretty disrespectful and bad. Also kind of amazing they forgot their own blow out not too long ago.
I don't think Dantonio has any class at all, but he is smart enough to know that the twitter posts are great bulletin board material. I applaud his intellect, but I won't go as far as to call it "class."
... let's not pretend to know the motivation and just accept that he said the right thing -- and he did so in a way that reminds his team they have a long way to go as well. That's good coaching.
Maybe his team should look at their own qb performance against a much weaker opponent than denard faced. Just sayin
Kudos to him for speaking up... that whole speech he made after mike harts little brother comment (pride before the fall) could bite him in the a$$
He says "I didn't see much difference" when MSU played Ala.
But in reality, they lost by 15 points more than we did.
Please don't try to make our 27 point defeat look any better than their 42 point loss. It wasn't.
Don't split hairs - both teams got whooped
How players no one has heard of are the ones blasting Michigan. They don't play, yet somehow they are able to assess the skill level of a team that killed them 18 months ago. I can't wait for Team 133 to put Little Brother back in its place.
unring the bell!
This should be a non-issue. Michigan is above whining and complaining about what their rivals have to "say" about them on twitter.
can someone tell me what the hell twitter is? Herm?
Who really cares what any Spartan has to say, positive or negative? Other than how their Ws and Ls affect us in our division, they are relevant one week in the season. After that the filter goes back on.
I wish he would have controlled his player before they were idiots.
As a wise man once said, "You can't fix 'stupid'."
...it's 0 tolerance all of the time.
Of course he tells them to shut up because every dip shit thing they tweet ends up on the Michigan bulletin board.
We need all the bulletin board material you can provide.
I remember well that Michigan players and coaches were respectful after their loss to Michigan State last year. IIRC, Hoke and Mattison and Denard all said variations of "Football is a tough game." I didn't hear Denard or Lewan complain about the cheap shots they received.
I absolutely refuse to go to any Michigan State blog websites. It just isn't worth the aggrevation. Trolls here are bad enough. I can't imagine why I'd want to subject myself to that by going over there. Reading these twitter statements from clueless and classless football players is only what I expect, and the fans are even worse.
I can't predict the outcome of this year's game against Michigan State, especially if we have more injuries knocking out starters like Countess. Having said that, I truly believe that Hoke and Mattison will do everything in their power to have Michigan take it to MSU and end this horrendous streak. Michigan will let their play on the field do the talking. My hope is that both the OL & DL will have improved and seasoned to the point that they will punish State.
I also hope that Denard's passing to Gardner, Roundtree, and Gallon improves to the point that the field opens up significantly for both Toussaint and Denard.
He said he refuses to go to any Michigan State blogs
I'll read about State here, even the Trolls. And I'll read about them if there's a Michigan - Michigan State related article at the News, the Freep, or ESPN. But I just don't have any interest in their blogs, maybe because of what I read at mgoblog. I get the sense that they are pretty juvenile ICP types who can't spell and remind me of why I left mlive never to go back.
Upon reflection, that may be too quick a judgement, and maybe I should check their blogs out on my own. (I've just taken the word of those here at mgoblog, without reading "on the banks of the Red Cedar" or other blogs myself.)
I do think that Dantonio said the right thing, and that he's right to be irked with State players mouthing off on the sideline.
It wasn't worthy of a post here, but my daughter mentioned that after the Alabama game, she ran into a bunch of Michigan Haterz on Facebook and at her workplace. I think most of them were either from MSU or Illinois. I told her they were just jealous, and would use any excuse to bash Michigan, and brought up the overall W-L record between Michigan and those respective teams. It also struck me that cowards et al can mouth off all they want right now, but Michigan will shut them up well enough on the playing field. I can easily see Michigan piling on Michigan State if they get the chance.
who cares what state players say anyway
He's a douche. At least he's trying to keep his thugs in order.
He knows better than anyone that pride comes before the fall.
For recognizing Michigan as TREMENDOUS.
Dumb players and dumb fans get off on anything, even if it makes them look stupid.
It's kind of like back in 07 when MSU sold those t-shirts with the final score of our game with App. State. And all I kept thinking was.... "But...you lost to the team that lost to App. State."
This may be the first time Dantonio has said something logical. I watched when they played Bama in their bowl game. The Tide was trying with all their might not to score in the second half. And when they scored to go up 45-7, Saban actually looked angry.
While I can’t say that it’s wrong, or not part of the rivalry, I can say that it’s a bit premature, as well as ridiculous, considering what happened to MSU when they played ALA, 2 years ago. I’ve never mentioned that loss before, because if I recall, Michigan got blown out of the stadium, in their bowl game that year, 14-52, by Mississippi State.
ALA made Michigan look like a pile of garbage. Denard can’t throw now, nor could he ever. Throwing the ball on your back foot, into the air, over 20 yards, is a recipe for interceptions (for him), and terrible overthrows. He wasn’t even under pressure, as far as I could tell. And Michigan’s RB V.Smith looks all of 5’5”. Spartan fans are right…..Denard is a star against crappy competition, but when it comes to good teams, and good coordinators, he’s bottled up. Especially when he’s one-dimensional. This is not to say that he’s overrated…as I honestly think he’s top 5-10 athletes in the country, I just think that he wasn’t given the opportunity to succeed in that Alabama game. Love the guy, and enjoy watching him play, it's just painful to see him get knocked around so much.
I know Spartan fans hate Saban…..and maybe that’s why they ran up the score on MSU years ago, but I thought the Mich/ALA was played fairly well, sportsmanship-wize. Alabama probably could have put 56-60 points on Michigan if they wanted to. Who knows, maybe Saban likes Hoke. More than I can say for OSU and ND both scoring with less than a minute remaining, to try and put 50 on their opposition. I have to admit, I miss the old fashion respect between coaches. Something that is clearly fleeting in this age of college football. How Hoke handles his teams in the future, remains to be seen, but from what I’ve seen in the past 2 years, I’m proud that he’s our coach.
MSU has a solid team. I enjoyed their victory over BSU.It still amazes me how much attention MSU puts on U of M. While I can’t say for a fact that MICH players have never tweeted about MSU, I’m certain that the majority of rivalry tweets, come from MSU players. I guess that’s fine…but as I mentioned….I think some of it is premature, and probably considered by most, including D’Antonio as unsportsmanlike. The truth is, MSU has a great team, and would be better to not concentrate on Michigan so much. Instead of looking in the rear view mirror, they should look forward, and let their play do the talking…which they obviously have done the last couple years. By giving Michigan attention, it just lends credence to the notion that they feel inferior, and have something to prove. Maybe they do….but I just think that MSU would be better off letting their football record speak for their athletes, rather than individual statements, alluding to years of frustration.
I guess it is what it is though. Young kids, and old kids, doing stupid things, and when it’s all said and done, the only thing that matters is who wins the game each year. Something that Michigan has been unable to do in a long time. Sure it frustrates me when people post stuff about Michigan’s time being over….but that too, is part of the football experience. MSU appears to be have the better team than Michigan this year…but as they say, this is why they play the game.
I don't feel like he had much of a choice, but it was good that he stepped up. The fact that a former MSU basketball player felt the need to make an inapporpriate comment during the game is one thing, but why actual players on MSU would start taking shots at a future opponent is beyond me. Bama beat the crap out of MSU two years ago, and basically did the same to everyone else over the past couple of years. MSU was down 28-0 at halftime, and didn't score until well into the 4th quarter against Alabama's scrubs. To act like they would have performed demonstrably better against Alabama is foolish given how hard it was for them to move the ball against Boise.
To be fair (and yes, I'm an MSU fan and have said so many times before), MSU didn't have a hard time moving the ball against Boise. In fact, MSU had more than double the yards Boise had... 461 to 206. Le'Veon Bell alone outgained Boise State.
What happened is that MSU kept shooting itself in the foot with turnovers. Two of them were in the red zone (one was at the goal line)... and all of Boise's points came off turnovers. It easily could've been a blowout if Maxwell and the receivers were on the same page. Maxwell was late on a few of his throws, and the receivers dropped the ball a lot (twice the ball bounced off an MSU receiver's hands and into the hands of a defender).
But Michigan averaged 4.8 per play against Alabama while msu averaged 5.1 vs Boise. Interesting
because math. A full yard plus being the 71 yard pass to Gallon.
(as well as 31, 23). But they all still happened.
While I don't doubt your analysis about Boise/MSU, Alabama is a whole different animal. I don't think you guys would have given up 41 against Alabama, but I'd also be surprised if you scored more than six or so, and I'm thinking those both come from field goals off good field position as a result of defense or special teams.
Until we see it played out, I think it's pretty fair to say that Michigan has the advantage on offense, while it looks like MSU will have the stronger defense.
Yea, and if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle. Winning the yardage contest doesn't mean shit if you turn the ball over the whole time. Trust us, Michigan did plenty of this in 2010. See also: ND 2011.
The argument was they couldn't move the ball. Obviously, they moved it just fine, it was those other nuances like "turnovers" and "mistakes" that Sparty struggled with.
I didn't say the offense was "good." He said that "MSU couldn't move the ball." They moved the ball just fine, but it didn't translate into scores because of turnovers.
Of course I hope that our passing game improves.
Pretty genuinely classy. Nice one, Mark!
You're a rotter, Mr. Dantonio.
Is this the nicest, most respectful thing Dantonio has ever said?
Wow, never expected this from Dantonio, but I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm even more impressed that he brought up MSU's beating at the hands of Alabama. That was just as bad of a loss, if not a worse one than we suffered.
Its funny how some of his players seem to forget that they themselves were absolutely annihilated by the same team two years ago. Pretty funny too how all of this immature twitter trash talking plays right into the little brother theme.
them up is to beat them this year.
Don't fool yourself...they'll just go on about 4-1 since football in East Lansing began in 2008
It was unexpected.
this shit went right around the country. Perceptions are huge. Most of the media reporting failed to note that MSU had been beaten more badly a short time ago.
Of course the tweeters are fools. Of course we got whupped. But this really suggested a degeneration of the game and sport we all claim to love, a stunning lack of sportsmanship.
Here Dantonio at least realizes that lip service to common decency needs to be paid.
Maybe people who already live in the tit-for-tat TV world of celebrity gossip and drivel don't recognize this but it is important. Those tweets were the kind of thing that makes me want to turn off the set forever.
And you don't think that kind of stuff would demoralize the players? Spare me the lectures about how THEY are "butt-hurt," etcetera. The train has left the station on such tired cliches.
So some Sparty non starters, mostly, tweet crap about their hated rival and big brother...so what
wants his team focused on Central Michigan right now?
After all, 3 years ago the Spartans lost at home 27-29.
MSU has a decent shot to win the Big 10 this year, so they don't need stupid tweets from players effing up the focus and the quan.
Maybe it's our turn (?): Pride comes before the fall, Delvon Roe
I'm sure Delvon had aspirations of the NBA early in his MSU career but that was tabled when his knees decided they'd rather be constructed out of mashed potatoes. In hindsight it really couldn't have happened to a classier dude. Sparty on, Delvon.
Labeling someone as classless after you make fun of their injury history is a tad ironic, no? Two wrongs and what not.
Ha... did he just use the word "tremendous"?
This is an great instince of Mark Dantonio "Keeping it Real."
"I don't think that's something that we should be doing. The credit goes to the person in the arena. Michigan has a tremendous team."
It's the smart move on Dantonio's part.
Dantonio wishes to elevate the way MSU is seen in the Big 10 and nationally. The first thing to do is win games, naturally. The second thing to do is create a sense of sportsmanship about the program. This is one aspect of the latter.
Whether it's sincere or not is impossible for us to tell right now. But it doesn't matter. It's the right thing to do and Dantonio was wise to do it.
Credit where credit is due.
Who is with me!?
I applaud him for using the example of their own experience against Alabama to put his own team in its place, reminding him they have a little hike before they are in this tier of teams themselves.I imagine that, for those that were there, reminding them of this stung, as it should. I also applaud him for his use of the word "tremendous" in a proper context.
Something else he said in that same presser about it was interesting too - "You can't be prideful. You need to approach this game with humility. When this becomes personal, that's when it crosses the line."
Like, for example, when a coach makes a comment about the height of an opposing team's running back? Let's hope Dantonio has actually grown up a bit (and passes this along to his players), rather than reverting to past form.
It's actually completely consistent with what he did years ago. If you recall, his comment about Hart's size was in response to Hart's "Little Brother" comment, which, if you recall, he accused of being prideful.
You could argue that he thinks his players are currently behaving similarly to how Hart did.
But if grown men do it towards kids it's a-okay.
Or that seems to be his logic.
So it wasn't possible to suggest that Hart was "being prideful" without making a personal remark about his height? Also, in this case he's policing the behavior of his own players - does any of us think Brady Hoke would take shots at (or comment at all about) the tweets of MSU players?
Sparty mouth-breathers can't like that Dantonio did this, no matter what they say.
Never voluntarily giving UM an inch in the media fight is what they thought made him a "badass."
shows the lack of discipline in that program. Anyone who doubts this statement, just look at the constant stream of dumb penalties MSU racks up in almost every game. Their penalties kill them quite often and it goes on every year.
But I am shocked, and pleased with the way he spoke out.
Where is this zero coming from? Am I missing something?
That the tweets were largely done by freshmen that haven't seen the field yet, and so likely have no idea of history, or would like to pretend that the loss to Bama never happened.
One of the offenders was Denicos Allen, a junior who played in the Alabama game.
"largely" do you not understand?
Out of the four players whose comments were reported, one (Allen) is a junior, one (Hill) is a sophomore, one (Artinian) is a second-year guy who redshirted last year, and one (Lyles) is an actual freshman. One out of four doesn't seem "large" to me, but that word evidently means something different to you.
give him credit.
virtually every other thing he's ever said has read like it was from the handbook of people who have a chip on their shoulder or the guide to inferiority complexes. this sounded like a reasonable person saying something reasonable.
who knows, maybe he had a stroke, and we'll only see sensible comments from him from now on. or dare i say, maybe he's grown up a little?
mature mark dantonio is mature.
Anyone have Delvon Roe's original tweet (referring to Sandusky)? It appears to have been deleted.
Michigan is getting Raped right now. I bet Jerry Sandusky is proud lol #ROLLTIDE
Clearly sensitive and thoughtful, tat young man...
I can't wait until Michigan finally beats that piece of shit and his band of criminals.
Second rate school, second rate football program, second class citizens.
That's what state has always been, and that's what they will forever be.
Dantonios zero? Uhmmm....wait what???
Way to go Roe, using child rape to make yourself look dumber than you already do.
You must be very proud, bitch.
Notice that UM got described as "tremendous."
Dantonio is too boring.
"That's a dang coaching mistake...the kids are playing their tail off, and the coaches are screwing it up!"
I can't wait to wake up Sunday October 21st and read this headline....#11 Michigan stuns #4 michigan state.
I actually think Notre Dame is going to beat them pretty badly, so they won't be ranked 4th
state almost lost to boise at home and they got murdered in 2011 and it was a bowl game, which to me is worse becasue you have all year to work the bugs out and this was our first game..so classless and i hope denard lights them up next month
I'm convinced that this post is a lie. It goes against everything I know and believe about Coach D. Video or this isn't true!
Don't forget that this is the same coach that held a "moment of silence" after the The Horror.
Glad to see him condemn this though, however hypocritical it may be. Maybe success has mellowed him out a bit?
I do like the "green fuckers" moniker.
Good for him. I'm glad he said something. I bet the only reason he said anything was because he doesn't expect to beat Michigan this year. State didn't look so good Friday night.
Maxwell is all he's been hyped up to be. The way he pelted Boise players in the hands was impressive.
Remember, this is the fool who said, "Where's the threat?" when talking about Michigan. Screw him and screw his team!
I think it's sincere; it gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling to see Mark emulating his big brother.
Staters gonna state.
I so hope that when State comes to Ann Arbor, Kovaks absolutely levels Nick Hill with a devistating, yet completely legal, hit that will preferably cause a fumble which he will then pick up and run in for a touchdown.
I've was baffled last week when State fans cheered for 'Bama and celebrated the win.
A: Saban dicked them over in a fashion I would not easily forgive,
B: the B1G desprately needs national credibility;
C: if they are making a national championship run this year, they should want every team they can beat this year to kill it in the OOC
D: Glass houses/throwing stones/ect.
I've often heard State fans say they'd root against Michigan if it cost them a conference or division title.
he's afraid of bulletin board material. He's made plenty of comments himself (where's the threat, etc.) to show that doesn't concern him.
My take is he was a bit embarassed and also didn't want his team thinking too highly of themselves - worried about overconfidence.
That couldn't have been MSU starting or 4th quarterback talking smack their anus is still probably sore from 2010.
I know how it is though I'm sure y'all saw Roll Tide/War Eagle on ESPN