the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
Da'Mario Jones Commitment Offers More Hope With Late Interest/Scholarship
January 30th, 2013 at 5:52 PM | 
go routes won't "fly" in college?
go routes won't "fly" in college?
January 31st, 2013 at 2:36 AM |
Even Rich Eisen can do better than a 10.8 forty
Even Rich Eisen can do better than a 10.8 forty
January 30th, 2013 at 10:47 PM |
a bunch of plays in this reel
a bunch of plays in this reel
show the qb underthrowing him. So I agree with the post that the players around him may have inhibited him a little bit.
January 30th, 2013 at 11:26 PM |
In all fairness the competition
In all fairness the competition
looked pretty bad but he made a couple of plays that only someone with a special talent could do (regardless of the competiton). What impresses me about him, is his toughness. He isn't afraid to go after the ball, run over guys, block or just lay a hit on someone...
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January 30th, 2013 at 5:20 PM |
He is clearly atheletic but
He is clearly atheletic but
He is clearly atheletic but you will notice he plays a lot of different positions and if I recall that is for a smaller school (could be wrong though). He looks incrediblly raw as a receiver. My guess is he wont contribute right away but could become a really solid player (slot recievor would be guess) in a few years with good coaching, Reminds me of Henry a little bit. A generic three star palyer who is super raw but is fairly athletic.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:28 PM |
It's unlikely any of our 2013
It's unlikely any of our 2013
It's unlikely any of our 2013 WRs play this fall, unless one of them shows up extra polished. We'll have Gallon, Dileo, Jackson, Darboh, Chesson and TEs catching passes for us this fall.
This means I don't care if Jones needs polish, because he has some time to get it.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:30 PM |
I agree that none of our 2013
I agree that none of our 2013
I agree that none of our 2013 will play this fall (lets hope at least) but he looks like a project. He only half plays WR
January 30th, 2013 at 7:37 PM |
Totally disagree
Totally disagree
I've been defending our WRs for a couple years (and complaining about the Gardner move) but even I admit that Michigan can't roll with Gallon and Dileo as the full-time WR duo. Jackson's a 4th or 5th WR at best and Darboh/Chesson are less likely to be impact players in 2013 than a new-comer.
I won't attempt to identify WHICH 2013 recruit will play immediately at WR, but with so many bodies in the class and so few proven playmakers beyond the two short veterans, I think there's an excellent chance that a true freshman emerges.
January 30th, 2013 at 7:39 PM |
re:Darboh and Chesson
re:Darboh and Chesson
They'll be fine players I guess, but the same lack of size that existed last year (which gave Gardner an opportunity) is going to be there next year. Darboh and Chesson weren't ready then and they probably won't be ready next year.
Darboh/Chesson is more likely to play than any single freshman, but there's 6 or 7 guys who COULD be WRs in this class and Michigan has a need for an impact player. In aggregate, I'd say a freshman is more likely to start next year than Darboh and Chesson is essentially a freshman too
January 30th, 2013 at 9:12 PM |
Darboh has drawn praise in practice.
Darboh has drawn praise in practice.
Why you think three lower rated kids will play before a 4 star recruit who has been in the program for a year I do not know.Who the other 3-4 guys "who could play receiver" are I also do not know. What I do know is that I find it doubtful that those kids will switch to WR. Not when you sign three WRs in one class.
I very much expect Dileo and Gallon to be two of the three starters vs CMU. They both are very good players. Gallon has the potential for an All Big Ten season.
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January 30th, 2013 at 9:51 PM |
WRs who don't play early
WRs who don't play early
I presume the skepticism regarding Darboh & Chesson comes from the fact that UM's receiving corps. was pretty dire in 2012 and if we had a freshman playmaker waiting in the wings the coaches would have inserted him.
However, Michgian has had a number of WRs who either red-shirted or played sparingly as freshmen, and then went on to big careers, such as:
- Braylon had 3 receptions his freshman season (2001).
- Steve Breaston red-shirted.
- Marquise Walker did not record a catch during his freshman season (1998)
- Mercury Hayes had 10 catches as a freshman in 1992.
- Derrick Alexander had 6 receptions as a freshman in 1989.
- Desmond Howard did not record a catch as a freshman, and recorded just 9 catches as a sophomore in 1989.
- Jason Avant had 2 receptions as a freshman in 2002.
- Adrian Arrington had 2 receptions as a freshman in 2004.
- Tai Streets had 5 receptions as a freshman in 1995.
- Chris Calloway recorded 7 catches as a sophomore in 1987.
- Jeremy Gallon red-shirted and had 4 receptions as a RS freshman in 2010
Mario Manningham was arguably UM's most productive freshman receiver ever, with 27 receptions for 433 yards and 6 TDs in 2005. (Other examples include AC (13 catches, 321 yds, 5 TD in 1979), Martavious Odoms (49 Rec, 443 yds, 0 TD in 1998), Roy Roundtree (32 catches, 434 yds. 3 TDs in 2009) and Amani Toomer (16 rec, 237 yds, 1 TD in 1992). That players like Manningham and Roundtree were able to put up impressive stat lines as true freshmen is a credit to them, but I don't think it necessarily means anything negative with respect to Darboh or Chesson.
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January 30th, 2013 at 10:37 PM |
Martavious Odoms (49 Rec, 443 yds, 0 TD in 1998)
Martavious Odoms (49 Rec, 443 yds, 0 TD in 1998)
I know those Rich Rod seasons seemed like forever, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't there for that long
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January 30th, 2013 at 11:10 PM |
Odoms
Odoms
Oops. Of course, Odoms probably would have had a 1,000-yard season in 1998, seeing as Brady would have been throwing to him instead of Threet & Sheridan.
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
January 30th, 2013 at 8:01 PM |
Since 2002, EVERY year we've
Since 2002, EVERY year we've
Since 2002, EVERY year we've brought in at least one true freshman receiver, a true freshman receiver has played.
So if none of our class of 2013 receivers see the field this coming season, that will be the first time in the Rivals/Scout era. Contrary to what you're saying here, I think it's pretty likely that at least one of the receivers will play this season.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:29 PM |
What makes you think he is
What makes you think he is
What makes you think he is "incredibly raw as a receiver" or "super raw"? Maybe I'm not a good judge, but he didn't look raw in his film. He looks like he catches the ball with his hands, runs decent routes and high points the ball reasonably well.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:31 PM |
Westland John Glenn is a
Westland John Glenn is a
Westland John Glenn is a pretty decent sized school.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:45 PM |
Yeah, but name one good coach that has coached there.
Yeah, but name one good coach that has coached there.
Other than Lloyd Carr or Chuck Gordon.
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
January 30th, 2013 at 8:49 PM |
Yup, the enrollment is 1,967.
Yup, the enrollment is 1,967.
Yup, the enrollment is 1,967. That makes it the 26th largest enrollment out of 596 high schools in the state.
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January 30th, 2013 at 5:20 PM |
Dumb questions: Why would
Dumb questions: Why would
Dumb questions: Why would coaches visit a recruit this late in the process without either having extended or extending an offer at the visit? Do they feel the need to physically visit in order to gauge interest?
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
January 30th, 2013 at 5:32 PM |
Try to get him to come for a last second visit?
Try to get him to come for a last second visit?
Perhaps the goal is get him for a visit on the weekend. If you can't do that, you might not bother offering -- you might still be evaluating him, or you might want to make the offer in person (or get Saban or Richt or whoever to make the offer) for maximum effect and figure it's otherwise a useless exercise to extend the offer.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:45 PM |
Gauge the interest & tangibles
Gauge the interest & tangibles
Rough analogy, but pro scouts measure and interview every target at the combine to avoid surprises.
Coaches want to make sure the kid is physically and mentally OK because they get zero eval before NSD, especially kids like Da'Mario that don't camp widely or attend The Opening.
Imagine telling Saban you just offered a 6'2" WR from MI on the phone and then a 5'11" jerk with small hands shows up in Tuscaloosa?
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January 30th, 2013 at 6:12 PM |
Receivers
Receivers
That wouldn't be a problem. Saban would just strech the kid out a few inches on "the rack."
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
January 30th, 2013 at 6:48 PM |
And if that doesn't work
And if that doesn't work
And if that doesn't work Saban can use the same rack to tear a few ligaments.
BOOM! MEDICAL'D!
January 30th, 2013 at 5:21 PM |
IIRC, he plays in a very run
IIRC, he plays in a very run
IIRC, he plays in a very run heavy offense so he might not have been able to showcase his ability as much as other recruits.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
January 30th, 2013 at 5:28 PM |
His old coach...
His old coach...
Jones was originally from Pickerington, OH. The same town as Jake and Taco. I work with one of his old coaches, one of Jake's coach this past year. He claims, Jones has the athleticism to play many positions. It has been a couple years since he has coached him, but clammers on about his potential.
January 30th, 2013 at 7:21 PM |
Jake and Taco
Jake and Taco
Sounds like a crime fighting duo.
Never forget our Vets!! Some gave all, all gave some!
January 30th, 2013 at 5:31 PM |
What would Treadwell do?
What would Treadwell do?
WWTD? Love this kid, he is going to be awesome!
'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:32 PM |
IMO, Jones is the best
IMO, Jones is the best
IMO, Jones is the best receiver of the three guys who are committed to Michigan in 2013. It doesn't surprise me that other schools are sniffing around.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:39 PM |
You have Const'e and Da'Mario
You have Const'e and Da'Mario
You have Const'e and Da'Mario as equals as far as your rating system goes. If you think he is the best then why don't your ratings reflect that?
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/p/2013-offer-board.html
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:43 PM |
What if Da'Mario is closer to
What if Da'Mario is closer to
What if Da'Mario is closer to 80 than York?
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
January 30th, 2013 at 5:43 PM |
Those ratings are going to be
Those ratings are going to be
Those ratings are going to be updated on/right after NSD.
January 30th, 2013 at 6:03 PM |
Sounds like you're saving
Sounds like you're saving
Sounds like you're saving your ass on that one. Anyway, I actually have a question for you. I checked out your commitment post on Green since you've been somewhat of a critic of him and noticed that you had him as an 89 and the next day he was a 92. What's up with that?
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
January 30th, 2013 at 6:18 PM |
The recruiting services are
The recruiting services are
The recruiting services are allowed to change their rankings after further evaluation, but for some reason Magnus is not allowed to do the same?
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
January 30th, 2013 at 6:36 PM |
I am obviously kidding in the
I am obviously kidding in the
I am obviously kidding in the first sentence. However, it seemed strange for him to change Green from an 89 to a 92 in less than 24 hours after his commitment. I wanted to know why he bumped him up 3 points.
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
January 30th, 2013 at 6:58 PM |
It seems like you visit his
It seems like you visit his
It seems like you visit his blog daily.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
January 30th, 2013 at 7:03 PM |
I like to read the comments
I like to read the comments
I like to read the comments and discussion on the commits so when a player does so I'll go there and read what his viewers think of his opinion.
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
January 30th, 2013 at 10:08 PM |
hmmmm...
hmmmm...
Three points equates to the "Michigan Difference"
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
January 30th, 2013 at 6:39 PM |
Frankly, I couldn't care less
Frankly, I couldn't care less
Frankly, I couldn't care less what you think.
January 30th, 2013 at 6:43 PM |
Oh, play nice. Soooo... when
Oh, play nice. Soooo... when
Oh, play nice. Soooo... when are your Pink Slip posts going to return?
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
January 30th, 2013 at 6:51 PM |
^^^
^^^
And we're really supposed to believe you were kidding in your above post? Sounds pretty disingenuous to me.
This is just an attempt by you to stir up trouble. Have fun with that.
January 30th, 2013 at 7:10 PM |
I would say loosen up but we
I would say loosen up but we
I would say loosen up but we both now know that that won't happen here. Have a drink, find a semi attractive woman, and hop on the good foot and do the bad thing. It's not that serious.
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
January 30th, 2013 at 10:14 PM |
Hmmmmmm...
Hmmmmmm...
Enjoy your website and appreciate the work invovled but there's no need to be a donkey.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
January 30th, 2013 at 10:53 PM |
Kevin Bacon wasn't in
Kevin Bacon wasn't in
Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose.
And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know it’s going to be Michigan again. Michigan!
January 30th, 2013 at 11:19 PM |
"Sounds like you're saving
"Sounds like you're saving
"Sounds like you're saving your ass on that one."
I don't see how saying "I don't care what you think" is more of being "a donkey" than what he said, but whatevs.
January 31st, 2013 at 12:04 AM |
You are the typical bully and
You are the typical bully and
You are the typical bully and someone finally stood up to you. Let's remember that bully stands for
Big
Ugly
Loud
Loser
Yahoo
All bullies need is love so I suggest you curl up with a calico under a baobob and sip on Buffalo Sweat.
Drinking your own blood is the paradigm of recycling.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:42 AM |
@Magnus
@Magnus
The commenter challenged you with a legit point (re: your ratings) and while you might have found his commentary annoying or not to your liking you might have responded. It is a discussion board and probably drives business to your own site.
Instead, you went with the tried and true response of not caring what he thinks etc.
Why not just respond to the guy's point...but "whatevs" you went a different direction.
FWIW, I think the ranking questions have some merit.
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
January 31st, 2013 at 6:53 AM |
You pretty much avoided the
You pretty much avoided the
You pretty much avoided the question, too. I guess we're both in the same boat.
I don't have an issue with questions about the ratings. What I have an issue with is comments like "Looks like you're trying to save your ass" or things like that. Then I say "I don't care" and somehow you think I'm the one who's out of line?
January 30th, 2013 at 5:55 PM |
Out of our current WR corps
Out of our current WR corps
Out of our current WR corps do you have any expectations of any of them getting any actual game time? I know we have atleast 1 (Darboh) play on special teams? I was thinking more along the lines of a Funch type reps?
'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:58 PM |
I'm guessing at least one
I'm guessing at least one
I'm guessing at least one will play in 2013. Receivers play early, and redshirting all three would be a little bit odd. I don't know which one that will be. If they need blocking, it might be Dukes or York. If they need speed, it might be Jones. Both Darboh and Jeremy Jackson played as true freshmen, and I think that's partly because both were pretty physically developed. The smaller guys (Gallon, Chesson, Roundtree, etc.) seem to redshirt more often.
We lost Roundtree and Jerald Robinson from last year's rotation, so you're probably looking at 1 or 2 new faces popping up. I would assume Chesson will be one of them, and then it will be a battle for the rest of the PT.
January 30th, 2013 at 8:01 PM |
...
...
Hooray predictable play-calling!
(referencing when Jackson comes in at wideout)
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