Daily NCAA hypocrisy / Monday drinking thread

Submitted by Blueblood2991 on

For those of you in Michigan, I hope this abnormally nice weather is helping to brighten up your Monday. Seemed like a good excuse to squeeze out of work a little early. What's on the cocktail menu for your Monday evening? 

Anyways, Georgia OL Solomon Kindley only played one snap, in one game this season. Someone on Georgia's staff screwed up and inserted him in the game. Towards the end of the season, Kirby Smart was grilled about the decision. He said that he had expected more opportunities for Kindley to play in garbage time (but Georgia sucked so he never got the chance).

Alas, Kindley was granted a redshirt today. FWIW, I don't think that a kid should lose a year because of one play, but those are the rules. The NCAA is inconsistent, and water is wet. Can't wait to see how they spin this as medical hardship waiver.

Here's some quotes from Kirby in November:

 

“That’s been the frustrating part because, in retrospect, you can look back and say, ‘why did you play him?'” Smart said. “But at that point in time … it was a situation we thought surely he would play more throughout the year. If you lose a guy, now you’ve got a guy that’s got playing experience.”
“He’s probably not going to be eligible for a redshirt, but that was never in the plans,” Smart said. “The plan was he was going to be the next-best guard, so you have to rep those guys as if they’re going to play. You hope that there are going be able to play him in. We haven’t had any games like that.”
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Naked Bootlegger

February 20th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^

In a world where Ed Davis gets 8 years of eligibility and Jeremy Clark gets shafted on a legit  medical redshirt , I find it impossible to follow NCAA logic regarding any decision they make.

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What will I be drinking in three hours?  A rum and coke.   Or three.

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cletus318

February 20th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^

The NCAA does tons upon tons of dumb shit. Every once in a while, they back their way into a good decision, this being one of them. A player shouldn't lose a year of eligibility over one play. Unfortunately, the organization doesn't apply common sense too often. It's a long day, so it's plenty of time for them to do something idiotic. Still, I really can't be upset at this particular decision.

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Mgodiscgolfer

February 20th, 2017 at 4:39 PM ^

Who can we hold irresponsible about this constant inconsistancy. Why don't they just come out with it. The rules that are in writing are written for all the teams of the NCAA. The SEC Conferance however will not be burdened by said rules and therefore are entirely negotiable.

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Blueblood2991

February 20th, 2017 at 6:43 PM ^

No they won't. You lose a year of eligibility if you play even one snap, unless you have a season ending injury before your 4th game.

This guy was in pads, ready to go on the sideline, the entire season. The rule is black and white, redshirt lost. Meanwhile, guys with actual season ending injuries are being denied medical hardship.

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Streetchemist

February 21st, 2017 at 12:11 AM ^

Guess you must have missed Brians front page post about this.  Can you for sure tell me  that Kingston Davis, Nick Eubanks, Sean McKeon, Carlo Kemp, Mike Dwumfour, Josh Uche, and David Long never dressed after the 4th game of the season and all sustained season ending injuries?  All of these guys are in line to get a redshirt after playing at least 1 snap last season.  

Specifically Dwumfour, Uche, and McKeon were all named scout team player of the week well after game 6.  According to many here at Mgoblog, that means it was impossible they were hurt and don't deserve a medical redshirt.  If and when these players get a redshirt, I hope to see the same outrage from you in the comments.

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Blueblood2991

February 21st, 2017 at 1:25 AM ^

There's no outrage on my part about them getting redshirts. In fact, in my OP I said I actually liked the decision. My point was that there's no reason to have the rule if they are not going to follow it.

NCAA Bylaw 14.2.4:

"The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport and results in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season"

Incapacity has always been viewed as season-ending since I've been following CFB, but perhaps they are being more liberal with their interpretation now.  Specifically the 3 you mentioned that were scout players of the week, I see absolutely no way they get redshirted. I will gladly eat crow if I'm wrong, but that would just confirm that the rule doesn't matter.

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Streetchemist

February 21st, 2017 at 10:34 AM ^

Obviously I knew there was no outrage about them getting redshirts. I read your post. I'm talking about the NCAA and how they rule. You seem pretty upset by that.

All of those players I listed meet the by laws.  They all played in 4 or less games in the first half of the season.  From reading their profiles on mgoblue.com, its pretty apparent that UM was intentionally following the bylaws in order to get these kids another year.  UM just needs to provide sufficient medical documentation that injuries kept them out the 2nd half of the season.   

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