Daily Bracketology update: Potential Duke re-match?!

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March 5th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
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Daily Bracketology update: Potential Duke re-match?!

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

On Lunardi's most recent bracket we are still a 3 seed, currently sitting in the East region with Syracuse on the top line and Duke as the 2. Vanderbilt is the 6 in our pod, which I hope changes between now and the tournament, since they will have a huge advantage in the Nashville location he assigns us to.

Assuming we can get through Northwestern to the Semis of the BTT and (probably) another game against Ohio, I don't see how we fall below a 3. Also, assuming Ohio and MSU are pretty solid 2 seeds, the tournament committee won't put us in the same region so there is no intra-conference game in the Sweet 16. My point here is that if Duke stays as a 2 seed, we have about a 50-50 chance of seeing them in the Sweet 16, if both teams make it through. I think fans of both schools would love another game, and we will want to avenge the loss in the tournament last year and in Hawaii at the beginning of the season this year.

Obviously it's a long week between now and Selection Sunday, and things will change. But, this might be an intriguing story to watch as it gets closer.

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March 5th, 2012 at 11:45 AM | It's a little know fact that (Score:5 Normal)
mGrowOld
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It's a little know fact that on the wall of the room where the selection committee meets sits a large poster that reminds them "At all costs if Michigan is in the field they MUST meet either Duke or North Carolina by the third game".

Not sure why that is but they've done a good job enforcing it.

 

 

March 5th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | I was a janitor (Score:5 Normal)
LSA Aught One
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in college and I used to have to empty the trash in that room.  He's not lying.

March 5th, 2012 at 12:12 PM | Interesting (Score:5 Normal)
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Did you also solve impossible tourney seeding problems on the blackboard in the hall outside the room when no one was around?

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March 5th, 2012 at 1:55 PM | Is this Good Will Hunting? (Score:1 Normal)
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No....Anyways, my best friend is Ben Afflick.

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March 5th, 2012 at 4:07 PM | One of the most underrated comedies of ALL TIME! (Score:2 Normal)
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Yep, I went there. If you disagree you are wrong.

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March 5th, 2012 at 4:26 PM | Step Brothers is funny, but... (Score:2)
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I really think one of the most underrated comedies of the last tenish years was I Love You, Man. I watch that movie and crack up every time; what a great concept for a movie.

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March 5th, 2012 at 1:28 PM | Custodian (Score:4 Normal)
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Custodian, dick!

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

March 5th, 2012 at 1:08 PM | If that holds up, Michigan's (Score:1)
NYWolverine
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If that holds up, Michigan's looks to be the most grueling road to the championship on the board.

E to the S Go Blue, Class of '04

March 5th, 2012 at 1:27 PM | Dude, your avatar is (Score:2 Normal)
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Dude, your avatar is bogarting this blog  internet

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March 5th, 2012 at 2:07 PM | It's a seasonal avatar. The (Score:3 Normal)
NYWolverine
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It's a seasonal avatar. The Easter bunny. It represents the resurrection of Michigan basketball.

 

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March 5th, 2012 at 11:46 AM | so lets say hypothetically we (Score:1)
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so lets say hypothetically we win the big ten tourney does that get us a 2 seed?  

March 5th, 2012 at 11:51 AM | Absolutely... (Score:1)
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And Ohio would likely be a 3-seed.

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March 5th, 2012 at 11:58 AM | Hope so (Score:1)
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Seems likely considering MSU and OSU are 2 seeds at the moment.

March 5th, 2012 at 12:15 PM | I think the only way we'd get (Score:1)
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I think the only way we'd get a 2 is if we win the tournament and beat both MSU and OSU. Only one and I think we end up the highest rated 3 (which still would mean either Duke or Missouri as our 2). Maybe if we beat OSU and Wisconsin in the finals (which would likely result in the Big 10 having 2 2-seeds and 2 3-seeds).

If we could get to a 2, it would be really advantageous. Instead of seeing Missouri or Kansas in a potential sweet 16 matchup, we'd be seeing Baylor, G'town, or Marquette, if current seedings held. Not only are those teams better matchups for us (I'd rate each game a pure toss-up, likely determined by how well THJ shoots, whereas Duke and Mizzou could beat us even if we play well), but they each stand a decent chance of not making it out of their pod.

March 5th, 2012 at 12:53 PM | So does it look like this? (Score:2)
woodfeld
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Win 0 games - drop to a 4?

Win 1 game - stay at 3

Win 2 games - possibly move to a 2?

Win all 3 games - move to a 2

March 5th, 2012 at 2:40 PM | Don't think we can drop to a 4... (Score:1)
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It would take a team that is on the 4-5 line winning their conference championship.

However, I think we need to WIN all 3 games to move to a 2. Beating Ohio and losing to State in the B1G Tourney doesn't really scream "we're better than those teams!" In the polls it would likely keep us right where we are, just boost our SOS.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

March 5th, 2012 at 12:00 PM | YIKES... (Score:1)
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Hopefully this changes...

Davidson is a good team too...that would be a HELL region.

The best part about this is this is conference championship week and usually seeds #3-7 are most affected by championship week.

Teams lose early or get hot and make it to the conference championship game (like Michigan could do)...and the seeding is shuffled accordingly.

So it may be GOOD that we're currently slotted with a tough road...because it'll like completely different a week from now. A New Mexico, Vandy, SDSU, etc. could get hot and move up or lose early and fall.

From everything I've heard we're locked into a 3-seed unless we win the B1G Tournament Championship. There is a shot we could get to a 2-seed just by getting to the championship, but it would require Duke or Mizzou to lose their first game.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

March 5th, 2012 at 11:52 AM | Not to be Buzz Killington (Score:1)
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Not to be Buzz Killington (sorry for the poster with this name), but there is no point at looking at the matchups in any bracketology update. Rarely do they get any placements right. Lunardi gets most of the teams right (I think most should be able to after all the CCG are completed), but he's not going to get as many seedings and placement on the bracket correct. That said, I would love to lay a beatdown on Duke's ass. We're due for one. Bitches.

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March 5th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | re: (Score:4 Normal)
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I think the OP acknowledges that, but he is saying if we're a 3, and Duke, MSU and OSU are all 2's, there's a 50/50 shot our sweet 16 matchup would be Duke because it wouldn't be a B1G team.

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March 5th, 2012 at 11:57 AM | Vandy in Nashville in Round 2? (Score:2 Normal)
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Seems unlikely as top 4 seeds are generally protected from having to play early round "road" games. Vandy is located in Nashville, I think.

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March 5th, 2012 at 11:59 AM | If Vanderbilt is not a top 4 (Score:2 Normal)
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If Vanderbilt is not a top 4 seed then they will not be playing in their hometown.  Committe will not give a worse seed a home court advantage over higher seeded team. 

March 5th, 2012 at 12:09 PM | Vandy "Home court advantage" (Score:1)
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If it's not at Memorial Gym with the benches under the baskets, there would not be a decided home court advantage for Vanderbilt IMO.  Considering the way that UM fans travel and the amount of them that live in/near Nashville (including me), that gym would be 50/50 if not more Blue.  Vandy fans are lacking even in the home city...and the SEC is terrible this year outside of UK. 

That said, there's a long weekend of hoops still to play. 

Go Blue!

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March 5th, 2012 at 12:34 PM | I'm getting a little tired of (Score:2)
jmblue
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I'm getting a little tired of playing Duke.  Yeah, it makes for a marquee game, but I'd like to play someone else in the regionals.

March 5th, 2012 at 12:37 PM | Ilve in Seattle and would (Score:1)
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Ilve in Seattle and would love to see a matchup with Washington.

March 5th, 2012 at 12:50 PM | Does anyone know why MSU is (Score:2)
Michael
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Does anyone know why MSU is listed as an autobid on this bracket? Is this because they're the #1 seed in the B1G tournament?

c/o 2008
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March 5th, 2012 at 1:01 PM | The autobid from the Big Ten goes to the tournament winner (Score:3 Normal)
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He must be predicting that MSU will win the tournament.

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March 5th, 2012 at 1:01 PM | That must be what it is, (Score:2)
jmblue
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That must be what it is, because no one's earned the autobid yet.  The BTT determines it.  I guess they just wanted a spacefiller.

March 5th, 2012 at 1:39 PM | I vaguely reacall Lunardi (Score:2)
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I vaguely reacall Lunardi saying he just lists the team with highest RPI in a conference as the autobid until the conference tourney ends. 

" I want to win Big 10 titles. Multiply. Consecutively. I just made that word up (multiply). I'm like that. I'm good at Scrabble."

March 5th, 2012 at 1:01 PM | As long as we are no worse (Score:1)
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As long as we are no worse than a 3 seed, its all good.

ty

March 5th, 2012 at 1:27 PM | We are the third three seed (Score:2)
aiglick
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We are the third three seed in Bracketology Matrix Project. Ahead of Baylor and slightly behind Georgetown and Marquette.

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

March 5th, 2012 at 1:51 PM | Between Duke and Missouri (Score:1)
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I want to face Missouri more than Duke. They play small like we do. While we have had some trouble with fast teams (see Arkansas), we play good enough D to contest 3's and are willing to give up o-boards to prevent fast breaks.  I would much rather go up against a small, quick team that relies on 3's and off ball movement than a complete team like Duke that can throw 3 good big guys at us.  I still think if Hardaway and Smot are on then we can beat any team in the country (except maybe Kentucky)

March 5th, 2012 at 2:03 PM | It's an odd situation for us, (Score:1)
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It's an odd situation for us, as far as our chances of moving to a 2. Better for our resume to beat the best teams (MSU and OSU), but they're more likely to drop if they lose early. I guess we need to root for Mizzou to lose early in their tournament, but it'd still be a longshot. Ditto for Duke.

March 5th, 2012 at 2:15 PM | FWIW (Score:1)
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Here is a link to a site that ranks the various bracketologists.

http://bracketproject.50webs.com/rankings.html

Lunardi ranks in the bottom half.  The prediction from the top ranking site has Michigan as a three seed opening in the great southern town of Columbus.  The two seed in the region is Missouri.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

March 5th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | This Duke thing is getting (Score:1)
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This Duke thing is getting old, and that bracket would be a nightmare.

March 5th, 2012 at 2:55 PM | I'd love to see Michigan make (Score:-1 Trolling)
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