That they are the color of the grass at Michigan stadium, so that the defense can't find our players on the field.
chance of bowl: 13.6%
That they are the color of the grass at Michigan stadium, so that the defense can't find our players on the field.
I'll see you green uniforms and raise you maize and blue turf, Boise style...
And raise you maize and blue uniforms that change to match your maize and blue turf depending on what part of the field you're on.
People wouldn't be able to watch us on TV without suffering from seizures and epilepsy because Denard is so fast...as he went from the 40 to the 30 to the 20, it would look like a maize and blue strobe light.
When did we decide it was a great idea to be like Oregon with uniforms? At this rate, look for maize away jerseys, reversing the color scheme on the helmets, and wearing bulbous red noses.
"For football last year, we probably did a little bit more than we’ll do going forward in terms of variety"
Well, at least there's that. I hope it's limited to one every couple of years, but somehow I doubt it will be. We don't need alternate uni's for every big game.
All that matters.
No it isn't.
No, it is. We as fans tend to think we are a lot more important than we actually are. College athletics is for the athletes.
College athletics is for the athletes.
Who would be playing in the same actual, reused jerseys from ten years ago just like they did in high school if nobody cared enough to have an opinion.
So anyone who paid 80 bucks to watch the EMU game should be able to tell the AD what to do?
To be blunt, yes.
And if we're going to play the logical extremes game: The AD should totally ignore the opinions of the people who provide his program with money?
wait and see ..I really don't have a big problem with alternate uniforms for a couple games ..Especially if the players are for it...
I see this comment:
The coaches like it and the student-athletes like it and the recruits are enamored by it. So why wouldn’t we?
And that is the end of the matter, because it's their program.
It's our money that supports the program, so it's our program too. We can cast our vote by choosing to buy or not buy.
Man, I hope DB doesn't mess with our helmets. I wonder what Coach Hoke's take is on all this? Not what he'd say in public, but what he'd say in private. I'm thinking they might be two different things.
He already messed with the helmets. He put numbers on them. The players liked it so much they're staying on there.
Looks like your fabled ideal of Michigan football is crumbling uniform change by uniform change.
You think DB came up with numbers on the helmets? Better check your history brah.
"because it's their program."
No, it isn't.
Does anyone else on this board feel like the legacy of the original Star Wars movies have been permanently corrupted by the increasingly ludicrous things George Lucas has done with the franchise? (Indiana Jones is heading down this path as well.) Sure, it's his creation, and he can do what he wants with it. But don't you wish he hadn't? And after Episode 1, did you trust him at all not to screw up 2 and 3 just as badly? The uniform conversation is the same thing. You take a classic and start messing with it, and odds are it'll come out worse. And after the MSU debacle, do you trust the powers that be to get it right going forward?
Solo shot first!
Blame BART wifi
I'd love to have you say that to a current or former player and see what their reaction is.
Just as I'd absolutely tell Lucas to his face that I disapprove of what he's done. Do you think Bo would have changed the jerseys because "his players wanted to"? No. He'd have taught his players WHY he wasn't going to change them, because he understood, and wanted them to understand, what they represented. No one is born understanding the significance of the things that make Michigan stand out from the Oregons of the world. I had the advantage of growing up in Ann Arbor the son of two alums, so I got a taste of it at an earlier age than most, but even I didn't really grasp a lot of it until I'd spent a few years on campus. Of course 17- and 18-year-old out-of-state recruits are going to enjoy alternate uniforms, because no one's yet taught them about "Michigan, Fergodsakes," and what that entails. But that doesn't mean we should throw out what it stands for just because they come in thinking these snazzy new jerseys are cool. I doubt I'd need to say that to a former player: they'd say it to me.
It really clues you in to who loves the actual school and the actual team versus who loves the idea of the team that they've created in their heads or acquired from the local walmart.
My love for the school and the team has to be unconditional?
I've never jumped off a bandwagon due to losing seasons (forever a Lions and Pistons fan), but my favor can certainly be lost if standards lower and compromises are made otherwise.
Michigan isn't my child that I have to love and support even when they get suspended from school for smoking in the bathroom and shitting in the water fountain.
Well said. And the sentiment has been growing stronger every year.
I was a fan of the Red Wings even when they were the "Dead Things".... their style of play and team make-up would determine more of how much I watched them than their record. For me, Michigan has a much larger foundation of history and tradition, and that means all these little tinkering, remaking, re-imaging's have less of an effect (again, for me), but they do have an effect.
Who loves the idea of the team more than Hoke? "This is Michigan, forgodsakes." After the most disappointing stretch of football in two generations, Hoke comes in and says that? How far from the facts on the ground at the time is a statement like that? Hoke's words can only be interpreted as referring to an ideal. And Michigan has always been about an ideal as well as a set of young men on the field (or men and women in the classroom, etc). Loving the ideal is part of Michigan fandom. To pretend otherwise is disingenous.
If the coaches,kids,and recruits like it. That is all I care about..The whining about the Uni's, the helmet sticker, the stadium remodel, the adding of suites, the amped in music, the no free water, this and that is tiresome..
Who's whining about the stadium reno?
Don't get me wrong, I love tradition, but I think some uniform changes are pretty cool. I know it's a slippery slope, I get that completely, and that's what worries me more. The thought of becoming all flash is scary, but the uniform changes themselves, in a vacuum, is ok with me if the players and coaches are on board.
will also be wearing the uniform every week. That would be cool.
As long as he's wearing the alternate maize jersey
I'm fine with this as long as he rides a motorcycle and breaths fire. I hear recruits love fire so we should be good to go with that.
Glad to have you back on the job...
...seems to be working perfectly. +1 to you
In 13 games last year, Michigan used 7 different uniform looks
Ignore the patches and helmet numbers for a moment: Ultimately, there were five jerseys last season. That is more jerseys in one season than Michigan used in the previous 35 years (standard home, Schembechler stripes road, 1997 road, Henne/Hart road, Adidas horns road).
I realize it's a money maker and the only way that this doesn't happen in the future is for people not to buy them, but I said it yesterday and I hold to this: If you need an event and schedule to "roll out" your jerseys for the 2012 football season, you have too many jerseys.
Also, in all of this, and including the fact that they have done pretty well with mulitiple "heritage" looks for hockey, they keep ignoring the Schembechler stripes road. I know part of this is a concern that football jerseys really don't have sleeves anymore, but come on..
That's just a good looking jersey right there. What would be wrong with a Michigan team taking the field in that look?
*-There is an irony in saying "standard road uniform" since half of the team were wearing the new TechFits and half of the team wearing the road uniform from 2010.
**--I have a thesis that while passing in the Trash Tornado wasn't helping matters, wearing one jersey for warmups and then going in to the locker room and CHANGING YOUR ENTIRE JERSEY, including pads, was not exactly helping the team focus before the game. Not saying it's the reason Michigan lost. I am saying I can't think it helped.
***---Yes, I'm counting it.
Only the home uniforms are sacred to me. I have no qualms over playing around with away jerseys, but I want my kids to see the same outfits on their first visit to the Big House as I did x years prior.
It's funny b/c not long ago people would get flamed for suggesting all maize jerseys for a night game...
THE PROPHECY IS TRUE
come out and said that they are in support of new Michigan jerseys? Have the coaches come out and said they want to play postseason games in warm weather? If you're reading this Heiko, this might be something worth asking at the next press conference; start with Al Borges in case this question only makes the coaches dislike you more.
At this point, I actually want Dave Brandon to start selling advertising in the stadium for Football Saturdays because it would be about as confrontational to the idea of Michigan tradition as he could be. It would also be a direct challenge to Ann Arbor Torch and Pitchfork to see if they (we) would actually do something to protest certain methods the AD could use to make money for Michigan football. Right now, I'm convinced that Dave Brandon will be able to make Michigan Football Saturdays as generic as professional sports by the end of the decade.
Michigan and its fans seem trapped in a space between the historical and the modern. It's a difficult predicament. What voice do we want Michigan to have going forward? The history of Michigan football is well known, and I don't think uniform changes will tarnish that. It will always stay preserved. So I say bring on the modern. The players love it, the recruits love it, and personally I'm excited to see what the voice of Michigan Football can be. You don't know until to try, right?
Well stated. Simply put, a new uniform for one game does not change who Michigan is or ever was. If new unis offer even the slightest chance to gain interest from a new generation of fans (i.e. recruits) than so be it.
CJ, I'm not against "a new uniform for one game", as you put it, unless it's a downright abomination.
However, see Yostal's post just a few above yours. DB's had them in 7 different uniform looks in 13 games in his first year on the job. With the Bama game, that's now 8 looks in 14 games.
If a kid is selecting a school soley, or even largely, based on the phreshness of the uni's, let him go to Oregon.
To be honest, I am far what you would consider daring or rebellious when it comes to my preference for uniforms. I love our traditional home unis but i am all for trying a new one out once or twice a year for big games. That being said, I was very surprised when I saw the calculation of the total amount of different unis that was worn last year. I guess I fall middle of the road. A little change can be exciting without falling in the trap of being the Oregon of the Midwest.
All it would take is a new tv contract with ESPN to get these, since Disney owns the rights to both.
I'm sure some variation on these would draw the recruits like Whoa.
The coaches should all wear these. If they like the alternate uniforms so much they should have to wear some kind of bizarro sideline gear. Like, maybe Hoke should have to wear long sleeves or something . . .
AMERICA WILL LOVE US!!!!!!!
(in a football edition of course)
In honor of Denard Robinson, every future Michigan football player will receive a helmet with dreds sticking out the back. The football team will then be forever referred to as the Michigan Predators.
Our home uniforms are the college football masterpiece. Don't touch it. For myself, I prefer that darker navy blue tint and darker yellow from the Braylon era. I know that color scheme has been addressed but I trust my eyes....and our blue and yellow seem a bit off now. If we are going to experiment on the road then I wouldn't mind the UTL jerseys in white with blue block M. I think that would look pretty nice and still keep the kids happy.