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May 17th, 2012 at 9:52 AM | Things are great! (Score:2)
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Yeah, well we moved to Kuyaba on the 4th day, so didn't see you guys after that.  Hope things are good on your end...tell ur girl we said hello. 

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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May 18th, 2012 at 5:54 AM | Good deal (Score:0 Redundant)
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not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:38 AM | Grammar Nazis rise up! (Score:1 Normal)
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Teached? "Your" instead of "you're?" Come on man, you can do better.

And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:30 AM | Next thing you know... ZOMBIE (Score:2)
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Next thing you know... ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!!!

"And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan."

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:31 AM | Who did teached you? (Score:1)
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Who did teached you?

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:51 AM | If you have your pay cut 50% (Score:5 Normal)
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If you have your pay cut 50% doesn't that raise the company's profit?

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:35 AM | I hope... (Score:4 Normal)
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That they are the color of the grass at Michigan stadium, so that the defense can't find our players on the field.

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:52 AM | I'll see you green uniforms (Score:5 Normal)
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I'll see you green uniforms and raise you maize and blue turf, Boise style...

Hail.

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:41 AM | I'll see your maize and blue turf (Score:5 Normal)
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And raise you maize and blue uniforms that change to match your maize and blue turf depending on what part of the field you're on.

People wouldn't be able to watch us on TV without suffering from seizures and epilepsy because Denard is so fast...as he went from the 40 to the 30 to the 20, it would look like a maize and blue strobe light.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:38 AM | Being Oregon (Score:4 Normal)
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When did we decide it was a great idea to be like Oregon with uniforms? At this rate, look for  maize away jerseys, reversing the color scheme on the helmets, and wearing bulbous red noses.  

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:39 AM | "For football last year, we (Score:5 Normal)
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"For football last year, we probably did a little bit more than we’ll do going forward in terms of variety"

Well, at least there's that.  I hope it's limited to one every couple of years, but somehow I doubt it will be.  We don't need alternate uni's for every big game.

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:53 AM | (Score:5 Normal)
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Harvard: The MICHIGAN of the East

We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:53 AM | The student athletes like them (Score:1 Normal)
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All that matters.

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May 17th, 2012 at 2:18 PM | No it isn't. (Score:1 Normal)
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No it isn't.

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May 17th, 2012 at 5:16 PM | No, it is. We as fans tend to (Score:2 Normal)
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No, it is. We as fans tend to think we are a lot more important than we actually are. College athletics is for the athletes.

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May 17th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | College athletics is for the (Score:4 Normal)
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College athletics is for the athletes.

Who would be playing in the same actual, reused jerseys from ten years ago just like they did in high school if nobody cared enough to have an opinion.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<

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May 17th, 2012 at 5:27 PM | So anyone who paid 80 bucks (Score:2 Normal)
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So anyone who paid 80 bucks to watch the EMU game should be able to tell the AD what to do?

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May 17th, 2012 at 6:07 PM | To be blunt, yes. And if (Score:4 Normal)
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To be blunt, yes.

And if we're going to play the logical extremes game: The AD should totally ignore the opinions of the people who provide his program with money?

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:54 AM | I think I'll (Score:-1 Overrated)
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wait and see ..I really don't have a big problem with alternate uniforms for a couple games ..Especially if the players are for it...

Go Blue !!

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:08 AM | I see this comment: The (Score:3 Overrated)
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I see this comment:

The coaches like it and the student-athletes like it and the recruits are enamored by it. So why wouldn’t we?
 

And that is the end of the matter, because it's their program.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:29 AM | It's our money that supports (Score:4 Normal)
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It's our money that supports the program, so it's our program too.  We can cast our vote by choosing to buy or not buy.

Man, I hope DB doesn't mess with our helmets.  I wonder what Coach Hoke's take is on all this?  Not what he'd say in public, but what he'd say in private.  I'm thinking they might be two different things. 

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:03 AM | He already messed with the (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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He already messed with the helmets. He put numbers on them. The players liked it so much they're staying on there.

Looks like your fabled ideal of Michigan football is crumbling uniform change by uniform change.

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:35 PM | You think DB came up with (Score:3 Normal)
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You think DB came up with numbers on the helmets?  Better check your history brah.

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:27 AM | "because it's their (Score:3 Normal)
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"because it's their program."

No, it isn't.

"Do not disturb my circles."
 

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:42 AM | Star Wars as an example (Score:5 Normal)
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Does anyone else on this board feel like the legacy of the original Star Wars movies have been permanently corrupted by the increasingly ludicrous things George Lucas has done with the franchise? (Indiana Jones is heading down this path as well.) Sure, it's his creation, and he can do what he wants with it. But don't you wish he hadn't? And after Episode 1, did you trust him at all not to screw up 2 and 3 just as badly? The uniform conversation is the same thing. You take a classic and start messing with it, and odds are it'll come out worse. And after the MSU debacle, do you trust the powers that be to get it right going forward?

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | Solo shot first! (Score:3 Normal)
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Solo shot first!

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:52 AM | Double post (Score:2)
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Blame BART wifi

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:48 AM | I'd love to have you say that (Score:1 Overrated)
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I'd love to have you say that to a current or former player and see what their reaction is.

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May 17th, 2012 at 12:03 PM | I absolutely would (Score:5 Normal)
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Just as I'd absolutely tell Lucas to his face that I disapprove of what he's done. Do you think Bo would have changed the jerseys because "his players wanted to"? No. He'd have taught his players WHY he wasn't going to change them, because he understood, and wanted them to understand, what they represented. No one is born understanding the significance of the things that make Michigan stand out from the Oregons of the world. I had the advantage of growing up in Ann Arbor the son of two alums, so I got a taste of it at an earlier age than most, but even I didn't really grasp a lot of it until I'd spent a few years on campus. Of course 17- and 18-year-old out-of-state recruits are going to enjoy alternate uniforms, because no one's yet taught them about "Michigan, Fergodsakes," and what that entails. But that doesn't mean we should throw out what it stands for just because they come in thinking these snazzy new jerseys are cool. I doubt I'd need to say that to a former player: they'd say it to me.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:15 AM | I love these debates (Score:-1 Trolling)
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It really clues you in to who loves the actual school and the actual team versus who loves the idea of the team that they've created in their heads or acquired from the local walmart.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:32 AM | How so?  (Score:5 Normal)
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How so? 

I will fight 'til I am dead, a winged helmet on my head.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:52 AM | My love for the school and (Score:5 Normal)
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My love for the school and the team has to be unconditional?
I've never jumped off a bandwagon due to losing seasons (forever a Lions and Pistons fan), but my favor can certainly be lost if standards lower and compromises are made otherwise.
Michigan isn't my child that I have to love and support even when they get suspended from school for smoking in the bathroom and shitting in the water fountain.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:39 AM | Well said.  And the sentiment (Score:1)
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Well said.  And the sentiment has been growing stronger every year.

I was a fan of the Red Wings even when they were the "Dead Things".... their style of play and team make-up would determine more of how much I watched them than their record.  For me, Michigan has a much larger foundation of history and tradition, and that means all these little tinkering, remaking, re-imaging's have less of an effect (again, for me), but they do have an effect.

"Do not disturb my circles."
 

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May 17th, 2012 at 12:08 PM | Who loves the idea of the team (Score:3 Normal)
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Who loves the idea of the team more than Hoke? "This is Michigan, forgodsakes." After the most disappointing stretch of football in two generations, Hoke comes in and says that? How far from the facts on the ground at the time is a statement like that? Hoke's words can only be interpreted as referring to an ideal. And Michigan has always been about an ideal as well as a set of young men on the field (or men and women in the classroom, etc). Loving the ideal is part of Michigan fandom. To pretend otherwise is disingenous.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:21 AM | If the coaches,kids,and (Score:1 Normal)
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If the coaches,kids,and recruits like it. That is all I care about..The whining about the Uni's, the helmet sticker, the stadium remodel, the adding of suites, the amped in music, the no free water, this and that is tiresome..

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:45 AM | +1 to you (Score:-1 Redundant)
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+1 to you

Vice.com

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:31 AM | Who's whining about the (Score:4 Normal)
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Who's whining about the stadium reno?

"Are you coming to bed?"
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May 17th, 2012 at 8:26 AM | Don't get me wrong, I love (Score:-1 Overrated)
samsoccer7
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Don't get me wrong, I love tradition, but I think some uniform changes are pretty cool. I know it's a slippery slope, I get that completely, and that's what worries me more. The thought of becoming all flash is scary, but the uniform changes themselves, in a vacuum, is ok with me if the players and coaches are on board.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:29 AM | I hope our new buffoonish mascot (Score:5 Normal)
TJLA1817
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will also be wearing the uniform every week.  That would be cool.

Well I am just a monkey man,

I'm glad you are a monkey woman too, babe.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:53 AM | As long as he's wearing the (Score:2)
Needs
Joined: 08/05/2008
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As long as he's wearing the alternate maize jersey

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May 17th, 2012 at 2:24 PM | I'm fine with this as long as (Score:1)
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I'm fine with this as long as he rides a motorcycle and breaths fire.  I hear recruits love fire so we should be good to go with that.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:29 AM | Thanks for the scoop, Shoe (Score:5 Normal)
Six Zero
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Glad to have you back on the job...

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:43 AM | I just hope that we find (Score:5 Normal)
dahblue
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I just hope that we find another way to honor the Halo again this year!  Maybe our helmets can be made of corrugated metal and "Victors" "Valiant" can be written on our pants?

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:03 AM | Thanks for testing my sarc meter (Score:2 Normal)
ND Sux
Joined: 10/01/2009
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...seems to be working perfectly.  +1 to you

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:46 AM | In 13 games last year, (Score:5 Normal)
Yostal
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In 13 games last year, Michigan used 7 different uniform looks

  • Western Michigan: Standard home uniform, standard helmets. (1)
  • Notre Dame: UTL "Heritage" jersey, numbers on helmets. (2)
  • Eastern Michigan: Standard home uniform, standard helmets. (1)
  • San Diego State: Standard home uniform, standard helmets. (1)
  • Minnesota: Standard home uniform, mismatched colored numbers on helmets (3)
  • @Northwestern: "Standard" road uniform, numbers on helmets (4)*
  • @Michigan State: "Bumblebees of Doom of which shall never be spoken again"**
  • Purdue: Standard home uniform, mismatched colored numbers on helmets, pink accessories (5)***
  • @Iowa: "Standard" road uniform, numbers on helmets (4)
  • @Illinois: "Standard" road uniform, numbers on helmets (4)
  • Nebraska: Standard home uniform, numbers on helmets, American flag patch (6)
  • Ohio State: Standard home uniform, numbers on helmets, American flag patch (6)
  • Virginia Tech: Sugar Bowl Specials (7)

Ignore the patches and helmet numbers for a moment: Ultimately, there were five jerseys last season.  That is more jerseys in one season than Michigan used in the previous 35 years (standard home, Schembechler stripes road, 1997 road, Henne/Hart road, Adidas horns road).

I realize it's a money maker and the only way that this doesn't happen in the future is for people not to buy them, but I said it yesterday and I hold to this: If you need an event and  schedule to "roll out" your jerseys for the 2012 football season, you have too many jerseys.

Also, in all of this, and including the fact that they have done pretty well with mulitiple "heritage" looks for hockey, they keep ignoring the Schembechler stripes road.  I know part of this is a concern that football jerseys really don't have sleeves anymore, but come on..

That's just a good looking jersey right there.  What would be wrong with a Michigan team taking the field in that look?

*-There is an irony in saying "standard road uniform" since half of the team were wearing the new TechFits and half of the team wearing the road uniform from 2010.
**--I have a thesis that while passing in the Trash Tornado wasn't helping matters, wearing one jersey for warmups and then going in to the locker room and CHANGING YOUR ENTIRE JERSEY, including pads, was not exactly helping the team focus before the game.  Not saying it's the reason Michigan lost.  I am saying I can't think it helped.
***---Yes, I'm counting it.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:54 AM | Only the home uniforms are (Score:5 Normal)
gajensen
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Only the home uniforms are sacred to me. I have no qualms over playing around with away jerseys, but I want my kids to see the same outfits on their first visit to the Big House as I did x years prior.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:56 AM | It's funny b/c not long ago (Score:2)
dosleches
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It's funny b/c not long ago people would get flamed for suggesting all maize jerseys for a night game...

THE PROPHECY IS TRUE

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:57 AM | Have the coaches (Score:3 Normal)
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come out and said that they are in support of new Michigan jerseys? Have the coaches come out and said they want to play postseason games in warm weather? If you're reading this Heiko, this might be something worth asking at the next press conference; start with Al Borges in case this question only makes the coaches dislike you more.

At this point, I actually want Dave Brandon to start selling advertising in the stadium for Football Saturdays because it would be about as confrontational to the idea of Michigan tradition as he could be. It would also be a direct challenge to Ann Arbor Torch and Pitchfork to see if they (we) would actually do something to protest certain methods the AD could use to make money for Michigan football. Right now, I'm convinced that Dave Brandon will be able to make Michigan Football Saturdays as generic as professional sports by the end of the decade.

Michigan's offensive style requires more players that have greater interactions with the Higgs field.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:59 AM | Michigan and its fans seem (Score:2 Normal)
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Michigan and its fans seem trapped in a space between the historical and the modern. It's a difficult predicament. What voice do we want Michigan to have going forward? The history of Michigan football is well known, and I don't think uniform changes will tarnish that. It will always stay preserved. So I say bring on the modern. The players love it, the recruits love it, and personally I'm excited to see what the voice of Michigan Football can be. You don't know until to try, right?

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:26 AM | Agreed (Score:1 Normal)
Carolina Joe
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Well stated. Simply put, a new uniform for one game does not change who Michigan is or ever was. If new unis offer even the slightest chance to gain interest from a new generation of fans (i.e. recruits) than so be it.

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