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DAB: Alternate FB Uni Plan Forthcoming

Per a Kyle Meinke A2.com piece, the football team will again (unsurprisingly) wear alternate unis this season.

DAB quotes:

"For football last year, we probably did a little bit more than we’ll do going forward in terms of variety, but we’re going to from time to time do some special things," he said Wednesday after the third and final day of the Big Ten spring meetings.

"The coaches like it and the student-athletes like it and the recruits are enamored by it. So why wouldn’t we?”

"I think what we’re going to do is lay it out and say, game by game, 'Here’s what we’re going to do. If we’re going to make any changes, here’s what they are,' and it will kind of end all the speculation. We’re in the midst of all of that.”

Expect a rollout/announcement sometime this summer.

Commence meltdown... now.

[Edit: Let's get those creative juices flowing! Let's see your serious and/or snarky alternate uni concepts below. Best entries get moderated to 5 because the moderation here does not go to 11.]

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May 17th, 2012 at 6:46 AM | It's to be expected after (Score:3 Normal)
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It's to be expected after seeing 3 last season.

OH-HOW-I-HATE OHIO STATE

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May 17th, 2012 at 6:57 AM | personally i hope it is the (Score:4 Normal)
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personally i hope it is the pro combats from BHGP. those were sweet.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:21 AM | No, just no. (Score:2 Normal)
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No, just no.

OH-HOW-I-HATE OHIO STATE

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:40 AM | There were six uniforms last year (Score:5 Normal)
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1. Traditional home
2. Under the lights
3. Rams horn road
4. Plain white road (which was actually worn at the same time as the rams horn roads)
5. Bumble bee road
6. Sugar Bowl road

I didn't realize how bad it was until I wrote them all down. Three or four uniforms will be far less schizophrenic than last year's mess. I didn't even consider the helmets, of which there were three. They wore helmet numbers with grey facemasks for UTL and the Sugar Bowl, no numbers for WMU, San Diego State and EMU, and numbers with blue facemasks for the Big Ten season. In total there were seven distinct uniform combinations last year.

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:07 AM | wait? (Score:1)
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what were the 'rams horn road' jerseys?

pic?

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:35 AM | Old away jerseys (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm pretty sure the "ram's horn" jersey referenced above is the 2010 away jerseys that were worn by some players because the 2011 fitted jerseys were too stretchy and tore too easily.  The "ram's horn" is the ugly yellow side-panels/piping.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:25 AM | Ram's Horn (Score:2)
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You can see the ram's horn wrapping around Denard's left side.  

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:41 AM | All Combinations (Score:5 Normal)
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Plan white road

 

Traditional home without helmet numbers

 

Under the lights

 

Bumble bee road

 

Traditional home with helmet numbers

 

Sugar Bowl

 

The Sugar Bowl uniforms minus patches are my favorite road uniforms.  The stripes essentially replace the numbers on the plain white roads and piping was deleted.  If they would loose the maize around the numbers I think it would look really nice and somewhat traditional but I subscribe to the less is more philosophy of uniform design.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:54 AM | the piping around the numbers (Score:4 Normal)
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the piping around the numbers is by far the worst thing about that jersey.  but i don't know why they couldn't just be plain all the way (nothing on the shoulders either) with blue numbering.  every single non-trad design just looks like it's trying way too hard.

...the Canadians make up for it with their emotion and classic ice-dancing skill.

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May 17th, 2012 at 12:17 PM | I'm fine with everything (Score:4 Normal)
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I'm fine with everything except the clowniform bumblebee things. The Sugar Bowl uniforms were fantastic, IME.

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May 17th, 2012 at 3:25 PM | The Sugar Bowl things were (Score:3 Normal)
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The Sugar Bowl things were awful.  A junkyard of white/blue/grey/yellow stripes, patches, piping, numbers, etc. etc. etc.  

Needs moar holograms.

M'Dog

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:38 AM | You forgot (Score:1 Normal)
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Traditional home with UTL helmet numbers.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:44 AM | I mentioned it as the seventh (Score:2)
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I mentioned it as the seventh distinct combination but didn't put it in the list.  It was kind of a stream of contiousness post so probably wasn't formatted very well.

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May 17th, 2012 at 6:49 AM | All that matters (Score:3 Normal)
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Is that we win.  I may hate the uniform we are wearing, but if we win then who cares?

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:09 AM | I care. (Score:5 Normal)
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I've always thought that If you needed synchronized dancing in your music video to sell your brand, no one really thinks you're an "artist".  Likewise, if you need gimmicks to get media attention, then you're saying you're brand is not that strong.    

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:15 AM | Love it. Hoping for all blue (Score:1 Normal)
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Love it. Hoping for all blue or all maize. Ill take all white as long as the jerseys are not the ones from the MSU game. Those sucked and we lost.

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:20 AM | Brand (Score:0 Overrated)
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But wouldn't you agree that the Michigan and B1G brand have been tarnished over the last few years.  Michigan brand is obviously on the rise due to the great job Hoke and the staff are doing, but the B1G as a whole are using alternate uniforms.  Like Brandon said, the student-athletes are the ones that enjoy them.  To be honest they are the ones that matter, without them there is no Michigan brand, it doesn't matter what you think, i think or anyone (outside of large boosters) thinks except the student athletes.  

Don't get me wrong i hate all of the alternate uniforms, i wish we had two uniforms, with an occasional UTL type occasion with an alternate.  But the point i was making is that if Michigan can use alternates to regain the respect of the football world then eventually the product on the field will outweight whatever stupid alternate uniform the team is wearing.  

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:30 AM | "If Michigan can use (Score:5 Normal)
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"If Michigan can use alternates to regain the respect of the football world"

Wha?

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May 17th, 2012 at 3:28 PM | It's gotta be true.  Maryland (Score:3 Funny)
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It's gotta be true.  Maryland is now one of the most respected football programs in the nation, no?

M'Dog

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:43 AM | "if Michigan can use (Score:5 Normal)
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"if Michigan can use alternates to regain the respect of the football world then eventually the product on the field"

Michigan's brand HAS been tarnished the last several years, but if you think wearing a gimmick uniform will gain the respect of others in the football community, then I feel you don't understand what the Michigan brand is(don't mean to sound like a condescending A-hole).  Only winning on the field, good academics and our student-athletes staying out of trouble will restore our reputation.   To me, Michigan was always about: Winged helmets, no advertising in the stadium, no piped in "arena" music, and no gimmicks.  We had tradition and the respect of everyone.  By 2016, Brandon will have made "The Noid" our official mascot and going to the Big House will be like going to a Piston's game.  Even though I love the Pistons, that makes me sad...

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May 17th, 2012 at 12:02 PM | I get it (Score:1)
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No i understand the Michigan Brand (also not trying to sound like an ass) but the point i am making is a uniform doesn't matter for the Brand.  The Brand is much more than that.  The Brand should be about what Michigan football is all about and that is The Team and winning the B1G Championship.  A uniform is a part of the appearance of the Brand, it won't define the Brand but it will appeal people/players to the Brand.

I think everyone is mostly on the same page when it comes to this, but the disagreement is arising from the idea if Michigan should following suit and continue to shell out these alternate uniforms to bring more appeal.  Again, the appeal doesn't help or hurt the Michigan Brand, that is set in stone, but the appeal can attract more to teh Brand.

Sorry if this makes no sense.

 

 

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:53 AM | Winning will get the respect (Score:3 Normal)
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Winning will get the respect of the Football world. If Chip Kelly left Oregon last year for the pros, and Oregon dropped off the face of the earth, nobody would care what they wore. For all this talk about future recruits and how much the players like it, it's really irrelevant. Players want to go somewhere that wins

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:44 AM | The athletes are NOT the brand. (Score:5 Normal)
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This is where DB, yourself, and other commentators go wrong. The athletes and coaches on the team today are caretakers of the Michigan Brand, they are not the most important part of the Brand. In fact, all students and faculty, all alumni, ex-players and fans comprise the brand, and the brand is also about the reputation of the university and teams. This idea that if the athletes like it everything is fine is completely wrong.

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:53 AM | Ok, I'll give you that. (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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I'll also assume that you don't care if your caretakers came with one star or five, as long as they are happy in your choice of uniform.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:21 AM | Snark can be fun.  But you (Score:4 Normal)
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Snark can be fun.  But you either missed or ignored his point that UM does not belong to DB, nor any single current collection of players.  Their likes and dislikes are not as relevant as the need for Michigan to maintain it's identity and ties to generations of not just 'football', but Michigan Football.

"Caretakers" is a tremendous description of everyone associated with Michigan, and should especially apply to those actually making the decisions.  There is a difference between the change and innovations brought by a man like Canham, and the current "me too!"  approach.

"Do not disturb my circles."
 

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:35 AM | But the point i was making is (Score:5 Normal)
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But the point i was making is that if Michigan can use alternates to regain the respect of the football world

If there are people that don't respect us because we don't wear alternate jerseys, 1, fuck those people, and 2, why would their opinions ever matter?

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:58 AM | lots of these kinds of (Score:2 Normal)
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lots of these kinds of arguments were heard way back when the Mens Basketball team changed from the 70'-80's look shorts to the much longer shorts. If the kids playing and being recruited like what they are seeing, is such a bad thing to concede some issues to them? Michigan has plenty of other traditions to stand firm on.

 

 

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May 17th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | Except it's not just longer (Score:1 Normal)
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Except it's not just longer shorts, it's a multitude of things.  We now have in tons of piped-in music, which is fine as long as the songs are original (Enter Sandman at VT), and advertising on the scoreboards.  To add, we are changing our uniform constantly and it just doesn't look good.  Oregon's own "tradition" is their ever-changing uniforms and now everybody is trying to copy them but the Michigans and Marylands of the country aren't even doing it well as the uniforms are just plain ugly.  I'm just waiting on a mascot to appear to make me feel like I'm at a NBA/NFL/minor league baseball game (and those game day experiences suck).

Dave Brandon is chipping away at our tradition slowly but surely.  Yes, we most definitely needed to modernize aspects of Michigan but not gimicky things like unoriginal rock music, advertising, too many uniforms to count, and/or a mascot.  I'm tired of people saying that the players like the uniforms because I'm starting to think that either they have extremely bad fashion sense or they're blind.  There should of been no bumblebee uniform against Michigan State and no bowl uniform against Virginia Tech (though the latter does look good, it shouldn't of happened).  We should of had ONE special uniform this year which was the ugly-but-not-as-ugly-as-bumblee-unis against Notre Dame as it was a special occassion that will never happen again (it being the first night game, not other night games).

Tone down the maize from highlighter yellow, keep those home jerseys the same, and change our road jerseys to the Sugar Bowl uniforms without the outlining of the numbers.  After that, keep everything the damn same and stop changing the fucking uniforms.

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:03 AM | Who said anything about (Score:-1 Flamebait)
cbuswolverine
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Who said anything about "needing gimmicks to get media attention?"  Why would you assume this has anything to with media attention at all?

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May 17th, 2012 at 10:36 AM | Obviously they're doing it (Score:4 Normal)
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Obviously they're doing it for attention - why else would they do it?  And is there really another kind of attention?

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May 17th, 2012 at 6:08 PM | Merchandising? (Score:1)
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May 17th, 2012 at 7:13 AM | GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!!! (Score:-1 Redundant)
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GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!!!

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:52 AM | Lol (Score:-1 Redundant)
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I love that someone made my post "redundant" that was the point!!!! Lol

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:42 AM | No, I am adversely possessing (Score:1)
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No, I am adversely possessing your lawn.

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:16 AM | I don't get it, (Score:5 Normal)
Score 1
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seems to be a fashion show going on these days. Why are we having to change the uniforms? Who or what is behind this fashion trend. I know in these days of cheesy doritos taco shells at Taco Bell that nothing is sacred and everything can be better with a little imagination but I don't think this is about being better as it is about just being different. Plain is clearly out and extraordinary is in but some things like our helmets must remain unchanged. 

"I am excited to be with Brady and I am excited about where this program is headed"           D C  Coach Mattison

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:23 AM | Doritos Taco (Score:5 Normal)
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I don't even like Doritos but sweet baby jebus that is a delicious taco!

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:28 AM | If we are going to have (Score:3 Normal)
varsity
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If we are going to have alternate unis, hopefully they can at least be able to coordinate the shade of maize throughout

 

 

 

 

 

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:29 AM | Move on people. (Score:2 Normal)
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We are in an era were teams wear more then one uniform. The young kids like it and since the young kids are the ones being recruited that is who we are looking to appease with them. Sorry if you get bent over a uni but it sells to recruits. The players and recruits Loved the ones from last year. Heck I liked them as well. Sometimes you need to take off the we are better then you because we wear the same uniform. We are Michigan forgodsakes and any uniform we were is great.

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:18 AM | We are Michigan, fergodsakes, (Score:5 Normal)
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We are Michigan, fergodsakes, and our home uniform happens to be the best one in American sports.

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:33 AM | USC and Alabama haven't worn (Score:5 Normal)
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USC and Alabama haven't worn stupid gimmicky uniforms and they seem to do just fine recruiting

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:20 AM | I'm not a fan of the (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm not a fan of the alternates, but USC and Bama enjoy some pretty inherent recruiting advantages over many many schools. And besides, Bama has worn pro-combats as well.

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:31 AM | I agree with you, but when (Score:1 Normal)
cm2010
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I agree with you, but when did Bama wear pro-combats? I don't think that's right.

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May 17th, 2012 at 11:39 AM | Apparently on... (Score:5 Normal)
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...18 Nov 2010 vs. Ole Miss.

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May 17th, 2012 at 1:35 PM | I honestly can't tell how (Score:5 Normal)
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I honestly can't tell how that is different. Are the pants dirtier?

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:21 AM | Not the same... (Score:4 Normal)
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Michigan has changed the road uniforms every two or three years anyway. When it comes to road uniforms there is nothing historicle at all. Home uniforms haven't changed since Tom Harmon was playing. I wsh Michigan would just use a white version of the home uniform (the 2011 Northwestern game unis were close) but that doesn't seem likely.

USC and Alabama haven't really changed either uniform ever. There was a time when Alabama and Penn State had what were considered ugly, old fashioned uniforms. Now they are cool. Michigan has always updated for the times...at least on the road. If I had to guess I'd say going forward there will be four uniforms, three of which we'll see on a somewhat regular basis. 1) Traditional home 2) regular road 3) alternate road 4) home night game.

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May 17th, 2012 at 7:34 AM | The bottom line (Score:1 Normal)
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Basically, it all comes down to a money grab for DB. You create a couple new jerseys a year and then put them for sale in the Mden. Charge $120 a jersey and make a huge profit. Yay, corporate America at it's finest.

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:01 AM | "Corporate America at its finest" (Score:5 Normal)
ND Sux
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Well you can CHOOSE to buy the new uni or not, right?  That is what I LOVE about America.  While we're at it, I want the M athletic department make money because it pays for shit like stadium renovations, new scoreboards, and also supports non-revenue generating sports. 

It gets really OLD reading all the hatred of profit on this board.  Buy it or don't buy it.  Better yet, go tell your boss you want your pay cut by 50%, so the company doesn't need as much profit.  Sheesh.  Third idea...move to fucking CUBA. 

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:19 AM | While yes you can choose to (Score:-1 Overrated)
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While yes you can choose to not buy something or not comment on something if you dont like it lets be real here. 

Who did teached you about the Michigan tradition? Your father (mom)? Your Grandpa (grandma)? They told you about stories of Wangler to Carter, Hello Heisman, The Trip, Bo/Yost/Canham etc.  and most importantly how those Wings on our helmets came over with Crisler. 

Now we have all made fun of how garish these uniforms make us look ie something you would find at Wal Mart, now imagine your a 10 year old kid who just likes Michigan and you just have to have a UTL jersey, your 10 its OK to make stupid decisions.  You think this stuff is alright, you do not necessarily have someone to tell you about all of the above tradition. 

Next thing you know your 30 have 3 kids and you continue to purchase the above crap for all your kids, trading looking "cool and hip" for the flavor of the week jersey and you never bother growing that tradition/fandom with your own kids and next thing you know we go from being of the more knowledgable fanbases in terms of knowing our own history to suddenly being just an excuse to get drunk on Saturday.

That is why we dont need more jerseys, 1 a year MAYBE but when DB starts throwing around jersey roadmaps we may as well go full Ducks and change the wings to chrome. 

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May 17th, 2012 at 8:31 AM | You really misread the meaning (Score:0 Trolling)
ND Sux
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of my comment...it had nothing to do with the uni argument at all. 

If anything I tend to be a traditionalist w/respect to the uniforms, etc.  I don't mind an exception here and there as long as it's not overdone.  I was with the minority that liked the UTL experiment, but once a year would be good. 

Along the same line, I was very glad they kept the brick theme for the stadium renovation.  They did a great job with that.   

"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan."  - Brady Hoke

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May 17th, 2012 at 9:32 AM | ND Sux (Score:1)
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What's up man? How are things? Sorry I didn't get a chance to talk more with you down there, hope the rest of your time was well spent...

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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