D Rob turnovers? what to do at this point

are having a hard time catching punts/thrown balls but u expect DRob to just step in and get it done? Cmon.

Love ya Tom, but, while I'd like to see Denard get better, you're posing unnecessary choices. Of the choices posed I guess 2 is what I'd prefer, but how does DRob get better if its not 2.5 or 3?

Does DRob play defense? Is he supposed to catch balls that are thrown while he's on the sideline? Did you notice Tate's "success"? Did you know DRob's INT came against an illegal defense (12 men)?

Blame him if you want, but that is not necessary. Pass Defense is our biggest problem.

And yes, our QBs can do a lot better than they are currently doing.

Whatever the coaches decide is fine with me.

Im not "blaming" him...but clearly he is not ready to play. Please dont misunderstand that.

So I suppose you guys think that they should continue to play him in that role so he will 'get better'?

"At this point, ruling out a position switch which would make no sense....what would you like to see going forward at the QB position?:"

Should we try to find a different position for every other true freshman 2 months into their careers? At this point, considering our QB depth, a position switch makes no sense. We have to give this kid a chance to develop. Unfortunately for us he is doing it on the field in the Big House instead of on the practice field with a redshirt because of our lack of depth.

...and the only way that's going to happen is by playing. We are seeing what happens with a seventy percent Forcier right now. If the unthinkable happens, and Forcier can't play, DRob has to be good enough to that we aren't stuck watching the future head coach try to play QB again.

DRob has only been on campus since what, June? He'll get better. Sometimes watching a young team grow can be painful; yesterday was one of those times. DRob is able to play reasonably well against teams that are lower on the food chain, but can't quite handle it against teams that really speed up his perception of the game.

In an ideal world, at least for UM fans, Forcier wouldn't have been injured, and UM is 7-1 or so. Sadly, it hasn't worked out that way. And this is why we need DRob to stay at QB even after Devin Gardner arrives on campus: depth.

As the saying goes, "stuff happens." That includes Forcier's injury. I would rather have seen what would have happened with a healthy Forcier, but this is still a lot more fun than last season.

Option 2

I think we should go back to using him the way we did early on. Instead of playing Denard for an entire series, we should bring him in for a play or two at a time as a change of pace guy.

Option 6?

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I like that there are sensible comments about this here. I agree with most that we still need to be playing Denard as we have been to give him experience. Tate hasn't exactly been playing well the last few weeks, but people fail to acknowledge this because they see turnover after turnover from Denard and just remember the Tate heroics in the first few games.

During the game, I was arguing with a man and his son for nearly a whole quarter because:

1. They were seriously trying to argue that we should be contending for a national title this year "if it weren't for Rich Rod".
2. They claimed we are not still in the process of rebuilding.
3. They think Denard is horrible and should be moved to receiver.

So frustrating to argue with the fairweather fans that criticize immediately after some tough losses. My favorite was when someone else sitting next to me blamed Rich Rod for the Brown fumble following the blocked punt. Apparently Rodriguez coaches the tailbacks to fumble the ball?

Serious question (not designed to be an attack on D-Rob):

What percentage of D-Rob led drives end in a turnover? It feels like it's over 50%, especially if Delaware State is excluded.

tie the damn shoes. If he doesn't fumble or throw picks anymore he can go back to just velcro.

Koger catches the damn ball on the pass before. I do remember saying to the guy next to me at the game that I would feel a lot more comfortable with Tate in on third on long and bingo a pick. IMHO Denard is a little slow in making the decision to throw the ball and was even late on the two TD passes against DSU.
As for his fumbles, they are usually when he's fighting for extra yardage. Just needs better ball security which can be taught.

The fumbles suck, but we've seen players go through spates of severe fumbling to all of a sudden become sure-handed - like Brandon Minor last year. I'm not sure they're just not bad luck. The picks clearly are a sign of something - he's not making great reads.

The problem, and why he's playing, is that, if you haven't noticed, Tate's played pretty poorly himself in the past few weeks. Aside from the first drive of the game, Michigan actually moved the ball more effectively with Robinson at QB than with Tate (of course, both those drives ended with turnovers). Robinson is coming into the game because Tate is doing things like completing 3 of 15 passes, and Rodriguez tries to find something that will work.

The odd thing with Robinson is that 3 of his picks now have come immediately after he has a pretty good throw dropped. Immediately after Odoms dropped a great throw, he threw a pick, then yesterday, immediately after Koger dropped not a great throw, but one that hit him in the hands, he throws a pick. I think that when he's in on third and long, he feels like he needs to make a play, and he makes a poor decision - if Koger had caught that pass, we wouldn't have been there.

They need to play Robinson at QB whenever possible, and he should stay there for at least one more season. If after next year it is clear that he'll be the third option, then maybe you split him out like Percy Harvin and find a way to integrate him into the offense at another position, or maybe switch him to D if the DB depth is lacking. Right now, though, Robinson needs to keep getting reps at QB, and he really has not played that badly. Sure he's had some bad turnovers, but he has also been effective at time running the ground part of the offense, and the number of drops he's experienced given the number of attempts is staggering. I still fully expect DR to switch positions at some point, but doing so now would hurt the QB depth without adding much to whatever position he moved to.

A position switch is really not worth debating at this point, given that he is nearly the best quarterback on the team, and certainly not any worse than the second best. We've got to have at least one option that isn't Nick Sheridan--who is courageous, but not going to get the job done--at QB. This option will have to be either Tate or Denard.

His mistakes have been more costly than Tate's so far, but c'mon: they're both freshmen, and both freshmen from warm weather states that are having a hard time with this cold, crappy weather :). I suspect both of these problems will get better.

We need wide receivers to step up and help 'em out: Henne had Avant and Braylon. Who do Tate and Denard have?

RR needs to stick with Tate now. I like what DRob can do, but the turnovers are killing this team as of late. Rich needs to put in players that are going to hold on to the ball. The team has to eliminate these huge mistakes they are making. Snaps out of the endzone, fumbles, interceptions, drive-killing penalties. It has to stop or we will have trouble winning any more games this season.