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Cullen Christian to transfer to Pitt

No big surprise, but he says reason he came to Michigan was because of Tony Gibson and the coaching staff. Also, he said he did not like Ann Arbor.

http://www.michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215603

"I didn't really like it up here," Christian said. "I didn't like the campus, and really, I've miserable since I've been up here.

"I think it was just about me and what I'm used to being around; there's a difference between living in Pittsburgh and Ann Arbor. A big difference. A lot of kids like it here, and some don't. It just wasn't for me.

"So once the coaches left, there wasn't much holding me here. I was like, 'Why am I here? I don't know these coaches and they didn't recruit me.'

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:36 AM | Front page news. (Score:1)
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Front page news.

Regardless, that's tough to hear from a kid.  Good luck to him at Pitt.

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:37 AM | Yeah (Score:1)
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I figured it deserved its own thread since it was buried in the last one on whether he was too slow to play CB. Mods are welcome to delete if they so choose.

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:33 AM | In the blogosphere this is (Score:1)
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In the blogosphere this is old old news, but maybe we can go over his speed issues again!

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:33 AM | Just move on and don't burn any bridges friend. (Score:1)
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Thanks for the sour grapes Cullen.  

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:52 AM | Maybe I missed it (Score:1)
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but I didn't see any sour grapes.  He seemed like he was honest that he was not in love with the school, and it wasn't for him.  I believe that being passed on the depth chart probably didn't help, but nothing here seems to be a burn the bridge type quote.

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest." -Mark Twain


 

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:55 AM | What sour grapes? Kid didn't (Score:1)
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What sour grapes? Kid didn't like Ann Arbor. Personal relationships may have pulled him through with the coaches but once that was gone, you know, he needed to get out. Smart move from the kid. I hope everything works out for him.

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:39 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Have fun learning nothing about playing division 1 cornerback!

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:59 AM | Umm..? (Score:1)
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Darelle Revis?
 
ps. he wanted to go to Michigan real bad but never got recruited; looks like he ended up fairing well after all
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April 26th, 2011 at 9:01 AM | I'm not sure what Darrelle (Score:1)
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I'm not sure what Darrelle Revis has to do with the current staff at Pitt, but okay.

Maybe the ghost of Darrelle Revis will aid Cullen Christian's development process?

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:25 AM | Apologies (Score:1)
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pardon my pre-coffee 9am post, I thought this was in reference to the program instead of Gibson, so yes in that case, I stand corrected that playing for the worst DB coach just because you're familiar with him is a horrible move, and maybe an excuse to transfer because he was told he'd be competing for the backup spot

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:26 AM | You're making a HUGE mistake (Score:1)
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Magnus, you are making a HUGE mistake underestimating the power of ghosts.  Especially the ghost of Darrelle Revis.  Before you talk about things you know nothing about, maybe you should spend some time being haunted by a ghost and then try to use the above sarcasm.  I dare you!

 

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:59 AM | I've seen Jim Carrey's "A (Score:1)
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I've seen Jim Carrey's "A Christmas Carol."  I would never underestimate the power of ghosts.

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:16 AM | Darrelle the Friendly Ghost? (Score:1)
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Just to be sure we fully hash this out, do you think there's a chance that Darrelle Revis's ghost could be a friendly ghost, kind of like Casper?  If so, then maybe your sarcasm was well-placed . . .

 

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:23 AM | Kind of like Casper.  Except (Score:1)
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Kind of like Casper.  Except faster.  And richer.

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:47 AM | So, not only will I be stuck (Score:1)
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So, not only will I be stuck on an island, but I will be with a ghost as well? Man, shit just got real.

"Tequila on the reg, chicks on the reg, fashions on the reg.  Living the life most men can only dream of" - Kenny Powers

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April 26th, 2011 at 3:23 PM | Only the ghost (Score:1)
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of Coach Jackson would say that things like "except faster and richer"

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:16 AM | You may want to start looking (Score:1)
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You may want to start looking up information before you post something. Revis has nothing to do with Tony Gibson.

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April 26th, 2011 at 2:53 PM | oh snap jvick! (Score:1)
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oh snap jvick!

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:52 AM | We rip these kids, but it has (Score:1)
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We rip these kids, but it has to be hard being the absolute man in HS, you are a teenager, and then you come to college and are buried on the depth chart.  I'm not saying handling it poorly is acceptable, just semi-understandable.  It can't be easy to go from king to serf.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:05 AM | Add to that living on your (Score:1)
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Add to that living on your own for the first time, away from home, in an apartment, dealing with "adult-type" responsibilities such as rent, bills, and groceries coupled with the demands of university academics and football. 

Hey-ohhhhhhhhh

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April 26th, 2011 at 12:14 PM | Yeah, and after gaining that (Score:1)
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Yeah, and after gaining that independence, being made to move back into a dorm.

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:52 AM | There's obviously no way to (Score:1)
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There's obviously no way to answer this, but if Rich Rodriguez had taken the job at Pitt, I wonder how many more players would have followed him there.  If these guys are following just a few position coaches, it stands to reason that a few more guys might be pulled away if the entire staff had gone there.

By the way, this is now 7 members of the 27-member class of 2010 who have disappeared, with more rumored to be on their way out.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:03 AM | Maybe we're underestimating (Score:1)
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Maybe we're underestimating the brilliance of "The Process." Dave Brandon probably knew after the Ohio State game that he wanted to fire RR; however, he also knew that if RR was hired by a new school in 2011, the team would likely lose Denard and a number of his other underclass recruits immediately. By waiting until there were almost no jobs available for RR to jump to, Brandon probably reduced attrition amongst the RR recruits.

Or, maybe other dudes just really like Michigan and want to play there.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:06 AM | I understand that you're (Score:1)
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I understand that you're being sarcastic, but you bring up a valid point. If RR were fired earlier, he could have landed another job (I no longer remember what jobs were available after the regular season), and that most likely would have caused additional attrition.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:26 AM | BCS jobs off the top of my head: (Score:1)
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Pitt, WVU (kind of), Miami, IU, Minnesota, Florida, UConn, Maryland, Vanderbilt, Colorado.

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:01 AM | Rodriguez also could have (Score:0 Trolling)
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Rodriguez also could have resigned.

Since everyone seems settled that he was a dead man walking after OSU, it would have allowed him to get one of these other jobs. Answer: the reality is probably just what we all saw happen. He could have kept his job with a decent bowl game and he wanted to keep his job OR he didn't care and wanted that buyout check.

Not sure how either of those possibilities can be blamed on David Brandon.

Brandon was also on the grassy knoll from what I hear?

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:56 AM | You know better than that. (Score:1)
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You know better than that. The structuring of coaches contracts mean that RR wouldn't resign. He was faced with:

  1. Resign, be out of a job and out of his buyout.
  2. Chance keeping his job or at least have his buyout.

I can't think of one coach who has taken door number one. Brandon's indecision cost RR a job this year, and I tend to agree that was pretty ridiculous. When that conclusion is supported by every single other AD in the country, I'm pretty confident in that. The normal hiring/firing time for coaches who aren't forced out due to a scandal (Woody) is December; not January.

By the way, my only original comment was to say that those jobs became open, I wasn't endorsing anything. I only come out and say this now because I cannot think of one other coach in a similar situation resigning, and I can't think of one other AD waiting until January to fire a coach for performance issues.

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April 26th, 2011 at 11:16 AM | Rich Rod was paid $13 million (Score:0 Overrated)
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Rich Rod was paid $13 million by Michigan for 15 wins, including his buyout. I couldn't care less when Brandon fired him.

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April 26th, 2011 at 11:23 AM | So you just want to be (Score:1)
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So you just want to be punitive? That's all well and good as long as DB never has to hire any coach ever again; if he does need to make a high profile hire again, I think it might raise some questions.

I'm really not trying to argue pro/anti RR, just making the statement that I think Brandon conducted his process the wrong way, regardless of outcome. Had he hired Hoke before bowl practices, Denard would be fifteen practices farther into a new system, the last recruiting class likely would have been better, Hoke would be closer to getting his system in place, and RR would have been free to move on to wherever he could find a job.

At this point I really don't see the positive side of waiting until January.

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April 26th, 2011 at 12:18 PM | John Cooper (Score:1)
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/news/2001/01/02/ohiost_cooper_ap/

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April 26th, 2011 at 12:27 PM | Cooper had off-field issues (Score:1)
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Cooper had off-field issues that RR didn't have. Also, Cooper wasn't going to be looking for a HC job the next season, he was already 63 and OSU was pretty obviously the apex of his career.

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:02 AM | DB stock up? (Score:1)
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This might actually answer some questions about RR's anger after being let go. I wondered why RR was bitter about being fired in January when it seemed like DB had been trying to give the guy every opportunity, including the bowl game, to hold onto his job. Maybe RR was pissed because he realized DB was never going to retain him and had torpedoed his job opps? Still doubtful, but would have been a genius move on DB's part. Also a dick move, and I'd have even more respect for RR for not trashing us after leaving.

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April 26th, 2011 at 1:45 PM | If he figured that he was a (Score:1)
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If he figured that he was a goner regardless of what happened in the bowl, he should have been looking for other jobs in December.  Schools don't wait until a guy is fired to hire him.  If anything, they want to avoid hiring a recently-fired coach.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:14 AM | What are you hearing? (Score:1)
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Please tell.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:42 AM | One has been speculated about (Score:1)
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One has been speculated about (DJ Williamson).  Another couple have been bandied about on message boards, but I haven't seen them here, so I don't want to bring them up.  One I believe, one I don't.  But neither one is particularly devastating, like Robinson or Gardner or anything.

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April 26th, 2011 at 11:51 AM | Dj Williamson may not have (Score:1)
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Dj Williamson may not have Robinson's speed but his smile wattage is up there.  Kid is adorable.

I am allowed to be this irrelevant because it is the offseason.

 

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April 26th, 2011 at 3:59 PM | So does this mean that (Score:1)
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Rich recruited a bunch of low character guys who wouldn't stick with the change and complained on the way out, or does it mean that some attrition is a normal part of a coaching transition? I don't know, I get so confused around here....

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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April 26th, 2011 at 8:59 AM | * (Score:1)
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Joined: 11/02/2009
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April 26th, 2011 at 9:08 AM | If Mattison buried Cullen on (Score:1)
MGoLouisville
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If Mattison buried Cullen on the depth chart I'm not too worried about losing him.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:18 AM | The problem is that we've (Score:1)
unWavering
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The problem is that we've said that about the last 123948234455324 DBs that have transferred out or left for various reasons.  The depth chart back there has been shallow for too long.

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April 26th, 2011 at 12:15 PM | Recruiting DBs (Score:1)
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Joined: 08/03/2009
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who can't play at this level for whatever reason seems to have been the problem with most of these transfers.  If Cullen coulnd't cut it, and he was unhappy and unwilling to stick around to try to improve and perhaps play as a senior, then he may as well leave.   It opens up another scholarship for someone who may be more of a player.

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April 26th, 2011 at 2:08 PM | True.  It's just that we have (Score:1)
unWavering
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True.  It's just that we have to keep wasting scholarships for the DB positions when they could be used for others.  It all boils down to the fact that we need to find guys who are going to stick around for 4 years and we need them to play well.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:16 AM | Well, this is....the pitts. (Score:1)
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Well, this is....the pitts.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:17 AM | It is hard to really know (Score:1)
bluebyyou
Joined: 09/07/2009
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It is hard to really know what went on with this kid.  It might have been his speed, he might have been unhappy in Ann Arbor, he might have had a GF somewhere else, who knows.  It is easy to rationalize your decision after you make it.  Pitt's ok, but a very different stage than is Michigan.

Other than the winter, how do you not like Ann Arbor?  It is considered by most to be a great college town.  

 I wll be very curious to see how Hoke's kids do in terms of staying with the program.  My guess (hope) is that some of the turnover will be reduced.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:50 AM | A2 (Score:1)
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Um, Ann Arbor is about the white-est place on Earth. I loved it there, but I can understand how it might not appeal to all of these kids.

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April 26th, 2011 at 9:53 AM | Funny, I'm an engineer and it (Score:1)
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Funny, I'm an engineer and it is definitely not white.  More yellow than anything

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:06 AM | lol (Score:1)
Michigan4Life
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you obviously haven't been to Ann Arbor. Whitest place on earth?  Seriously?  Check other college campuses and there are schools that are white dominant like Xavier or Miami(OH).

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:06 AM | Um, I live here.. and it is (Score:1)
Waggles
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Um, I live here.. and it is definitely not the white-est place on Earth. It's an extremely diverse university and city. not sure where you were. Unless you're counting Asians and Indians and all that as "white." I had two classes this semester where I was the only white kid.

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:12 AM | actually dexter is the (Score:1)
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actually dexter is the whitest place on earth

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April 26th, 2011 at 10:22 AM | Do yourself a favor and check (Score:1)
bluebyyou
Joined: 09/07/2009
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Do yourself a favor and check before you make such a sweeping and incorrect statement.

Per Wiki 

As of the 2010 U.S. Census ,[41] there were 113,394 people, 45,634 households, and 21,704 families residing in the city. The population density was 4,270.33 people per square mile (2653.47/km²).... The racial makeup of the city was 68.9% non-Hispanic [white] only, 7.7% Black or African American, 0.3% Native American, 14.4% Asian, 0.0% Pacific Islander, 1.0% from other races, and 3.6% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 4.1% of the population.

Those numbers don't include the U of M student population.

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