Eh, I could do without all the staring and jawing afterwards. Act like you should have been able to do it.
Eh, I could do without all the staring and jawing afterwards. Act like you should have been able to do it.
He's also only 18 at the oldest
Heaven forbid a teenager get emotional during a game after a huge play. Shame on him.
A huge play? He stole the ball and dunked it. I agree with the excessive jawing, but I know that wont be a problem when he gets on campus. If any player on our team does something like that I think Hoke would serve them up some humble pie.
He stole the ball and then dunked on somebody.
A regular uncontested fast break dunk is no big deal, but when its contested and you dunk on somebody, it is always a big play.
So do you just not watch football? Every time a CB makes a play, even if he doesn't make a play he stares and jaws and waves his arms. When a LB makes a big hit, what does he do? Stands over the guy and talks.
NBA/college players do the exact same thing if they dunk on somebody. And for the love of god the kid is 18 years old at the oldest. Some of you guys want these kids to come in and be perfect in every way.
Yeah he maybe kept it going a little too long but let the kid show emotion.
And it annoys me just the same. The only plays where any kind of self promoting celebration is warranted (IMO) are:
2) INT/fumble (although fumble should be a team celebration not the groin thrust look at me celebration)
3) 3rd down stop when not in FG range or getting a FG does them no good
4) 4th down stop
I suppose I'll grant feats of amazing athletic ability that result in a first down but I cringe every time I see a player acting like a complete fool after catching a routine pass that gets a first down or when a player acts like a complete fool on anything other than 3rd/4th down. How many times have we seen teams convert on 3 & 20+? Yeah, that great amazing play you had on 1st and 2nd down don't mean sh!t if they still get the first down.
there were so many rules.
Some of us would prefer a little more restraint and dignity. I'm sorry if that makes you feel self conscious about your emotional outbursts. Also, some of those some of us are just barely older than 18, and so don't buy your age argument.
I'm also barely older than 18. My point with the age thing is he's young. He's a kid. How many high school basketball players can control that emotion AFTER dunking on someone? Not very many I would think. That's my point.
Look, I didn't say it was right and I didn't say it was wrong. Would it have been nice to see him just walk away without the talking and chest pounding? Absolutely. That would've been perfect. But I'm not gonna sit here and criticize the kid for showing emotion. Especially after doing something like that. You learn as you get older.
Celebrating a great play in the middle of the game with your teammates = good.
Celebrating a great play in the middle of the game by getting in the face of an opposing teams player = not so good.
If you want a visual example of "good" watch how Charles does it.
Your point is true. It definitely is a good thing not to hoot and holler in your oponents face. It is obnoxious and disrespectful. That being said, when you celebrate, you usually show emotion immediately. If you are all by yourself, like Charles was, it's easy to avoid confrontation. When you just dunked on someone and they are standing a foot from you at the end of the play, any celebration looks like taunting regardless of intent.
It's high school basketball and he stole the ball and dunked it all over the kid. That doesn't happen often in high school. Not only that, but he grew up watching college and NBA players do the same thing when they make a similar play.
York was dangerously close to a technical for his "celebration." Luckily, he'll have plenty of role models and coaches in training camp who will teach him how to act like he's been there before.
York is a lot like most high school star athletes - he's a big fish in a small pond. He's the best athlete around.
When he gets to Michigan, that will change. And if he becomes a big fish at Michigan, then he can probably get away with that stuff to an extent.
I'm guessing that the "jaw-jacking" on the football field isn't noticed as much because...............................their helmets are on?
penalties for York's "exuberance" in football this fall.
Regardless, UM coaches will "teach" him the acceptable behavior. Let him get all woofing out of his system now.
Not that that's not a cool clip but he's 6'3" and will soon be a college athlete. I hope he can dunk. Stu Douglass could dunk at the same size and I don't know if we wanted him playing wide out.
There is a bunch of non-athletes that probably never played a lick of comeptitve sports outside of tee-ball on this blog. You guys are a trip
Haha tough crowd. I thought it was sweet.
Is that directed at me? I'm far from a non-athlete, but I don't see why that matters here. I'm not saying the clip wasn't cool to watch, but I'm also not saying he's going to be a great WR because of it.
Everyone who can dunk is automatically a great WR, duhhh
62 points in and you've already mastered the emotion "butthurt". Also, I ,and I am sure many others used to play competitive sports through college. Never did play tee-ball though. I'll agree that it is harder to dunk on somebody in a game, but that's due to lack of opportunity. Dude was pretty unabated to the rim, the defender got up there too late. Still good to see he has ups.
Well let me clarify more. Most on here probably never dunked on someone in a game. Nothing wrong with what he did. Just because you have a gazillion points for posting all day doesn't make your comments valid. Sorry but I have a FT job. Just happen to be on vacation today.
Ooh... cool taunt, bro. I have a full time job too. And a wife. And a house. And I can beat you up. And nobody with a professional position would call it an FT job, that's clown shit. And my son can beat you up. And my dog can beat up your dad. And your mother is a whore. Now what you aspersion casting piece of shit?
See how annoying that is?
Man, you must think everyone on a message board is some fat old loser who collects unemployment.
Check my history. I've probably only posted like 10-20 times a month. I just had an account during the old ranking system, when saying something meaningful got multiple points per post. You'll need to work on that, as it's coming back..
I can't believe I'm even arguing about this...
What does it say about yourself if you frequent a blog and see everyone else as this?
It could mean that is a picture of you looking in the mirror
and said in my head, Oh No!
I thought the same thing. When I first read this I thought "You've got to be kidding me!"
All i care about is if he can catch a football
I think he's going to be a great wide out for Michigan. I'm no Magnus though...
there is a syntax error between your name and image, to steal a phrase from my calculator.
or was that a terrible foul call?
I read it C'sonte York Drunk
If you watch a lot of high school basketball, that's pretty much a 6 out of 10 dunk for a big-time athlete. Not that I want to pump up an MSU commit or anything, but you should see Drake Harris flush it. It's like he doesn't have to try.
as opposed to that completely fake, sham dunk that so many homer Michigan fans are alleging that Stauskas made.
in the game? Maybe there was already tension in the hall? Some of you people--including some of you internet "athletes"--are easily impressed.
SMH at some of the comments here. Jeez oh pete, people....get in the spirit of the season and lighten the F up. It doesn't matter what side of the fence I sit on, it's just a matter of people seem to bicker about anything and everything these days.
Nice dunk young man. It's good to know you'll be wearing Maize and Blue in the Fall.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.
The one thing I will say about this, is that it looks like he can palm the basketball pretty easily. Having big hands is a benefit as a WR.
You know what they say......
I can't believe the people that get on a kid for jawing a little bit after a huge play. Those kids normally have a chip in their shoulder and it's gives them an edge. If same said player were to be a big time hoops star I college and the pros, people would say he didn't show enough emotion.
Why do people think all DI athletes can dunk. Not all 6'3 kids can dunk on someone, and they are still considered very good athletes. Levert can't throw down on anyone and I have never seen a clip of him even running. Brundige couldnt dunk,
LeVert was Mr. Ohio, i refuse to believe he can't throw down
I watched him all through High School and he can dunk and dunk on you.
I love that you added "and dunk on you" especially since that guy is agreeing with you.
"I saw Derrick Green play in high school he can really break tackles plus you're stupid."
Did I say anything about him posting all day? I'm laughing at him for telling another poster that Caris LeVert can dunk on him because he watched him in high school. That's pretty funny.
I'm not sure Brundidge was a full 6'0", so not a great example.
My point above wasn't that all 6'3" athletes can dunk, just that a 6'3" athlete being able to dunk doesn't mean he has great athleticism. It means he has pretty good athleticism, but not something that's going to make us all say "thank God we offered that guy!"
Look, I think York will be good. Just not because of this clip.
Whatchu mean "those kids"?
Does he have a "chip in his shoulder" for security reasons?
I would bet you $1,000 that Brundidge can dunk.
I played on a good (but not great) high school basketball team where everybody on the team was a white boy between 6'0" and 6'6". All were 'good' athletes, none were great, and probably at least half played a D2 or D3 sport in college. Every last guy on that team could dunk a basketball, and the layup lines we ran at the end of every 2 hour practice session, when we were tired, were dunkfests.
A Big Ten scholarship athlete in sports like basketball and football, a guy better be 5'8" or less before I'm betting he can't dunk. A 6'3" skill position athlete like York is basically going to be a dunking machine, which is what made the clip relatively unspectacular.
I would call it 50/50 that Vincent Smith can dunk. With these types of athletes, there is absolutely nothing 'normal' about their abilities.
he stared that dude down tho. lol
i certainly hope he's staring Ohio State DBs down in a few years.
awesome to see, perhaps at "a basketball" at the end of the sentence to cease people from having a mini panic attack by thinking a "r" is in that word
That is an awesome play! Not just any high school player can do that. The vast majority of HS players listed at 6ft3in never come close.
If this a true example of the athleticism of a 3star recruit I bet a lot of parents/coaches/kids need to reflect for a second on what their expectations should be of their own kid/themselves when it comes to being recruited.
Without knowing full context, I don't mind his attitude after the play. I was just like that in HS but that all disappeared as soon as I got to the BIG. Environment created by BIG coaches is entirely different than any HS environment. Plus Rochester was less than sporting whenever I played them anyway.
He's got a sick kid n play haircut thats for sure.
It's too bad how negative and cynical the blog has gotten this year.
If Blake Griffin did this, it would be one of the top plays on Sportscenter. yet everyone is downplaying it. Be excited for the future Michigan man,
That was a nice steal, a great dunk over the top of someone and worth the watch.
If Blake Griffin did this it would be over another ultra-elite NBA player.
Why do you feel the need to call him a "lower rated" commit? Can't he just be a commit? You're a lower rated fan.
Not sure if you can tell in the clip, but this was at the buzzer to end the half.
So funny how people on the internet judge people, that was a great dunk and on somebody on top of if it. To say well this is from one of our lower recruits is just crazy. If Dymonte cant dunk hes not athletic then right? Any one can dunk if they work at it, but being able to do it in a game at full speed and on someone not everyone can do. Just tired of all the grown ass people on this blog, thinking that these KIDS are perfect or crazy not to come to michigan, or isnt very good because you watched a 10 min clip.
Did anyone say he wasn't good? This is also not little league here, we're allowed to critique players. It would be very boring if every word on this blog was how awesome every one of our recruits is at everything.
I think the issue people have with this post is the implication that because York can dunk he'll be a good WR, and that's neither true nor rare for a WR to be able to do, especially a tall one like York. I'm as excited about these recruits as anyone, but everything they do doesn't have to be celebrated.
I'm just waiting for a thread titled "Channing Stribling bowls 300, will now be a good CB."
Shane Morris lost The Game, so I'm pretty sure he's going to be terrible
Nice to see that one of the lower rated commits in this class has the athletic ability to do this
He never said "...because York can dunk he'll be a good WR."
You do agree that takes some above average athleticism, right?
It's fine to post this video and it's fine to say "Damn, that's a nice dunk". To downplay this is being negative for no reason.
It's ok to acknowledge a nice play without meaning this kid is going to be the best WR in Michigan history.
Well I sure hope the guy Brady Hoke offered a full football scholarship has above average athleticism.
The funny thing is, if the OP had said, "Look at this cool clip of our recruit" this whole argument wouldn't exist. But because the OP suggested that York's dunk shows off athleticism, don't be surprised when a number of posters are less than impressed by that.
So by your standards we should delete all of the "highlight reel" plays made by our players. I mean, I sure hope the guys Hoke puts on the field have above average athleticism.
Just say it was a nice dunk and move on. It DID display above average athleticism and so does all of the other highlight reels, that's why they're being highlighted.
You're arguing the wrong point. No one is saying it wasn't cool to watch, or that clips like these shouldn't be posted. What people are commenting on is the amount of athleticism shown, and the consensus is "about what you'd expect from a kid on scholarship."
This is a rediculous argument.
He didn't just go up and jam in warmups, the kid went up, one handed, hung in the air, and slammed over someone. That takes an incredible amount of athleticism. Will it translate over onto the football field, dunno. Spare us all the "he's 6'3, he should be able to dunk".
The point is, he will dunk the FG post due to the many TDs he'll be grabbin'
This is awesome. The jawing. The staring. All awesome. Also, I loved the Fab 5. I also love Barry Sanders. So there.
100% agreed. Although they were complete opposites in how they handled big plays and their respective games, in general, I loved both equally. I only wish Barry had stayed around to set records no one will touch.
playing BBall, healthy, dunking and having a good time. It's officially winter time.
Now wake me when Hurst tomahawk dunks in a game . . .
Isn't this thread full of sunshine and happiness.
He looks to have gained a little weight over the course of the last six months. He looked really skinny during the summer's 7 on 7 tourneys.
Dunk on an 8 foot rim, I'm a badass.
How great would this be as a 15 yard taunting penalty or whatever you kids are calling it these days? That's what concerns the curmudgeons here, and I consider myself one of them. I don't like dumb penalties. I don't like our players thumping their chests and carrying on. Not that York was out of line, but I can't condone his behavior because I have two boys and I would be embarrassed if they acted this way. I'd be excited about the play, but I'd still have a talk with them.
Also, nice Hoke cameo in that clip.
EDIT: The Woodson clip referenced above, not the York clip.