Looking for help, links, information and memories on Michigan recruiting prior to databases and the like. I thought I could trust my memory but then realized I completely forgot things like James Taylor (apparently a 2000 WR we stole from Sparty who didn't qualify).
Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlZp0ugnJIGddGNtM3dmaDFQcmJ...
I highlighted the boxes I need help with. This is for an upcoming Hokepoints.
I Had A Link To This...
Yeah I picked through his
Yeah I picked through his data awhile back but he doesn't have information on how highly they were rated unfortunately. A lot of my "Career Summary" information came from there.
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I don't remember
the site, but Brian linked to one old site that tracked the Hutchinson class, and had commentary on each of the players. I'd take a look there if you haven't yet.
Are you thinking of Vijan?
Are you thinking of Vijan? http://www-personal.umich.edu/~svijan/foot.html
I think I was the one who put that up. Did Brian mention another?
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no
I think that's the one he was referring to.
Thanks so much for this link.
Thanks so much for this link. Never even knew about it. It's like christmas morning already.
My only question is where do the stars come like from the 2000, 2001 etc classes? That was before the Rivals & Scout era.
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ESPN used to use star ratings
ESPN used to use star ratings but made those inaccessible when Lemming went to MaxPreps (I think he owned the rights to his rankings and took them with). Fortunately my nerd-ass college self was big into downloading the names of the recruits and plugging them into NCAA Football franchises, so I have those old printouts.
It was behind a paywall eventually, but fortunately my freshman year roommate never changed his login info through all of college.
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Have you thought about emailing Lemming?
I'd there really any monetary value for decade old rankings for one team? You don't even want te overview. Maybe he'll just give you his Michigan star ratings.
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Go find back issues of "The
Go find back issues of "The Wolverine." They would put out a nice synopsis of Michigan's recruiting classes each year in February.
As an aside, it shows how much the focus on recriting has changed. I remember one year, during the 90's, receiving my copy of the Wolverine in February and being delighted to see that Michigan had landed a very highly-rated class.
That was the first and last time I heard anything about that recruiting class that year . . . that one issue of the magazine.
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Sandeep Vijan, one of the first Michigan Recruiting Bloggers
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~svijan/mich95_6/foot.html
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~svijan/foot.html
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Fargas
This would just fall into the "memories" category, but I remember Fargas being about as highly-touted as any running back Michigan ever got. He was in the class with Henson, Terrell, etc., which was already ranked #1 nationally and then when Fargas committed all the recruiting gurus at the time were like, "oh boy, now this Michigan class might be the best ever..." I don't remember if they did star rankings at the time, but if they did I am pretty sure Fargas would have been a 5-star. I think he might have even been the #1 overall RB on some of the sites.
Edit: the only other guys on the list I recall being a big deal to the recruiting geniuses were Henson, Tony Pape, and Jason Kapsner. But there really wasn't a whole lot of information available for free until around maybe 1998 or so.
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Remember Fargas and was the
Remember Fargas and was the top HB that year. It was huge that we landed him out of Cali and if not for a broken leg he would have broken records here, IMO. Yet, I think the staff saw viable backups and wanted another defensive backfield like we had in 97. In fact, Carr and Herm had habit of taking HBs and making them CBs after Woodson. Yet, Woodson did both in HS and wasn't a concensus HB like Fargas and the others. They played HB first and some showed flashes before a flaming out career at CB or a transfer and continued success at HB in the case of Fargas. Anyway, he was pretty much as universally seen as the top HB that year as it gets. Modern comparison (ranking wise) would be a Peterson or such. Recruiters just saw him as a cut above the field and was the last HUGE get at HB we have had in recruiting ranking terms. IMHO, ranking wise, landing Green would make him the top HB we have landed since as he is no worse than 5 on all and the top on one site.
Heeeeeyyyyy old Maxpreps
Heeeeeyyyyy old Maxpreps database. SCOOOOORE!
http://interact.cstv.com/recruiting/searchrecruit.cfm
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James Taylor
I think he ended up going to Carolina.
Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.
It's been a while but that's
It's been a while but that's how I had it in my mind as well...
It's a little difficult to
It's a little difficult to navigate, but you could try the Michigan Electronic Library. You can search old newspapers, including the Detroit News back to 1998. I had wanted to pursue this more, but I've never had the time. For instance, I found this link about the '01 class. Not sure all of these links work perfectly, but you get the idea.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Here's an interesting article
Here's an interesting article about JaQuon Hart that I found through MEL. I vaugely remember the name, but I would have forgotten all about him except for this article. He's not in Bentley's roster database, so apparently he never actually became the next Glen Rice.
If you could somehow find the
If you could somehow find the original proprietors of footballrecruiting.com (now defunct), perhaps their recruiting databases are still available somewhere out there.
http://www.mikedesimone.com/recruiting/recruiting.htm
It's fairly comprehensive and breaks down who played out their eligibility at Michigan and who did not. I had a link to it - I believe it is actually a link provided in an old blog of Ace's.
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