landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Crisler Center>Breslin Center
Where is that?
Somewhere close to Oakland University (MI).
It is a little known concert venue that used to exist in Ann Arbor.
...where did you find that! And to think, saving 50 cents by buying both concerts was motiviating. I bought both and do not remember saving 50 cents. Hot Tuna was great.
A friend of mine brought back one of the handbills, so I knew it existed. A quick search located the pic. I will add you to the list of people I hate forthwith!
Crisler dammit!! Wr no car company
When you gonna have the replay up?
Editing the commercials it will be up by tomorrow I got u!
That game at Breslin didn't count. The fans voices were really sore, and their mascot was run down with the flu. When they host us at full strength, we are in for a world of hurt.
This might be the best comment in the history of comments.
There's a Chrysler Room on North Campus. I think it's in the Duderstadt Center.
Seperate buildings actually, the Chrysler Center is between Pierpont and the Dude
Yeah, that's what I thought, but I didn't really know where the Dude "officially" ended. I guess that long hallway between PC and the Dude doesn't count as the Dude.
They have a real wrap-around student section.
Just for that, Breslin wins.
But seriously I would rank the loudest arenas as
1. Assembly hall (Indiana)
2. Crisler center
3. The Brez
4. Kohl center
5. The barn
It's very loud when the beams fall.
I have only been to 3 - the Brez and Ohio's arena - whatever they call it. I went to OSU game last year at OSU and it was louder in there than our game with sparty today. I don't know how consistent their crowd it for hoops, but I would have to think the buckeyes are up there. 24k compared to 13 as well, not to mention 10,000 more savages than we have. The bottom line is crowd fervor comes and goes with success; I sure remember Indiana's crowd representing well when they struggled for several year. I would have to think Assembly is at or very near the top of the list for that reason.
Been to assembly hall and schotenzwhatever. Never been to the brez or the barn but usually u get a taste of the atmosphere on tv. The other assembly hall (illinois)used to b insane when they could pack that place now it's a library
Value City Arena holds 18,809. Still 50% larger than Crisler, but bigger arenas aren't always louder - the noise can dissipate more. Duke's Cameron Indoor Stadium only holds 9K and it's obviously crazy.
but Breslin is an incredible home court advantage. Have you been there? It's loud as heck and always rocking.
twice. It is a crazy place to watch your team get run out of. I was there last year and the year before that. I chose not to go this year, big mistake.
Found this post interesting while laughing at the butt-hurt sparties on rcmb-
Have you been there recently? That concourse alone blows the Breslin away. It sucks to admit but I was actually impressed with how nice it was today
Of course. They don't call it the Michigan State difference for a reason.
Good to hear. I'm sure basketball recruits, and even our football recruits notice how nice Crisler is, and how Michigan is not afraid to spend money on facility upgrades. Now, sending the band to a game in Dallas, that's another story.
Crisler is definitely nicer now. Breslin was once considered state-of-the-art but now that it's about 25 years old, it's starting to look a bit dated, kind of like the Palace.
As a michigan fan who has attended games at crisler since 1997, and as someone who has also been to numerous games at Breslin (including non-michigan). We are not at their level...yet.
Were you at Crisler today? It was a madhouse. I would stack up that atmosphere with any in the country.
At today's game. But until the atmosphere is at least comparable for games like Illinois, Purdue, etc. we are not as good as Breslin. Sure, our best effort can match their best effort, but they bring it much more consistently.
There is always going to be subjectivity in comparing one arena to another, but considering that Michigan is something like 45-4 at home the last three years, our fans are doing something right.
Saying they aren't a good fan base. You can be good and still have others who are a bit better. We are definitely a solid home court...I just think Breslin is a bit more solid at this point. No shame in that, since most 'experts' think Breslin is one of the best in the country
I bet it has nothing to do with the wonky ball we use at home and is totally caused by our fans.
And yet, Sparty has three home losses to our two, and has needed overtime to win two other games, despite playing an easier home schedule than us. If their fans are really bringing it every night, their team must be crappier than we think.
They're crappier than YOU think. The Izzone has nothing to do with their play at home this year.
I believe you underestimate the atmosphere at Michigan. In big games, there is not a tougher place in the country to play. Period!
GRBlueFan on this one. I have been to almost every game this season. Yes, it was crazy today. But we don't have the consistency. The students have been consistent - I commend them. But you need the rest to make it a raucous environment. Take Wisconsin last week - the team comes out flat and got nothing from the crowd. First half was lame. The crowd has come a long way in the last 3 years, but I wouldn't rank us as one of the 3 or 4 toughest arenas in the big ten. However, we are now one of the toughest teams to play in the Big Ten, which contributes to our sterling home record. Huge strides, but a ways to go.
I was at the Wisconsin game. The crowd made a lot of noise in the second half. You couldn't hear yourself when it was a 3-point game. In the first half it was quieter, but the team was so out of it that few crowds were going to be energized in that situation.
Have you and GRBlue been to a similar number of games against middling teams at Breslin?
Don't forget, despite their lack of recent contention, Assembly Hall in Champaign (now State Farm Center) is still pretty damn loud and a fantastic arena to watch a basketball game. The Orange Krush is a firmly organized and noisy student section/campus organization.
-Former Illinois student...transferred to Michigan for my sophomore year
Of course, my post is in reply to the mgobloggers ranking the Big Ten arenas.
Like is said earlier it used to be now they can't even fill half the arena sucks to b a Illini fan these days
I taped the game and just finished watching it. At what would have been the end of the game I got a text from a friend and two missed calls. So I turned my phone off and enjoyed the ass-whooping a few hours late.
Lol. I say this all the time and my kids look at me like ..."wuh?" I then have to explain to them what a "tape" was. Not ripping you, just glad I found someone to relate to.
Because......I'm old too.
Which court does Michigan play better on? Maybe State will start painting it maize and blue as much as we win on it.
Cool. It was crazy once. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Several reporters were quick to point out on Twitter this was the first game all season the place was full prior to tipoff. Breslin and Kohl have a reputation for a reason. Just because we won a few big games doesn't change that. Make it crazy the rest of the season and develop our own reputation, then we can revisit this discussion.
Crisler has been pretty raucous for a few years now - and it reflects in our home record under Beilein. People who think it's like a library either haven't been to a game in awhile or have only gone to one of the nonconference cupcake ones.
Massey keeps its own statistical estimste of home field advantage as it relates to basketball, and although it is for purposes of making a guess at score margins and estimated probabilities, the sort on HFA is interesting in the Big Ten right now.
It isn't based on arena, of course, but performance - Nebraska is on top right now, followed by Purdue and Minnesota. Statistically, Michigan would ring in at fourth and Michigan State would be second to last. What is interesting about that is that it rather mirrors their typical rating for football, making both Breslin and Spartan Stadiums as close to a statistically "neutral site" game as you get in the Big Ten. It is an interesting phenomenon.
Yes but the unpredictable whirling trash tornado in East Lansing on a fall Saturday is State's x-factor for football HFA.
ive had shitty seats and good seats at both. the shitty seats at crisler were better than the shitty seats at breslin. Izzone was huge when i was in high-SCHOOL IN 2004. But sparty rhetoric is only as good as the students who come up with it. izzone has been the same since they first came out with newspapers and who cares.... everyone is over them, especially UM basketball team.
I don't think the Izzone invented the "Who cares?" chant or the newspaper thing - those have been around forever.
I don't know about who is louder, but just from watching games on TV, the Izzone is full of a bunch of deperate attention-whore drunk dumb punk-ass bitches. The Maize-Rage isn't.
permit me to rearrange a few of those dashes
"... is full a bunch of desparate-attention whore-drunk dumb punk ass-bitches". Better? I'm not sure
The Breslin is a straight up dump.
And crisler before the recent renovation was..?
But we didn't try to bill it as "the gem of the Midwest" as they have.
The Breslin Center is the loudest, toughest, atmosphere in the BIG. Nobody has students that surround the court that are that engaged in a game like at State. The reason the game at State sounded poor on TV was because ESPN's microphones were turned way down. I was there, it was the loudest building I've been in.
Could care less about the buildings themselves, they are both concrete and steel monoliths of functional engineering. They serve their purpose in every way. At Michigan its simply prettier on the inside. Michigan went with comfort and 'extras', State went with functionallity.
All that said what makes a building tough to play in is the team on the floor and John Beilein has himself a damn fine team.
I think you've been listening to Sparty propaganda too long. Breslin isn't too different from a lot of other arenas in the league. Nebraska certainly wasn't intimidated.
I've been to Mackey Arena and that is very loud. I've also been told that Carver Hawkeye is very load. I remember being told once that they put benches in Carver Hawkeye so the fans wouldn't get to comfortable. Mackey also has benches. I never thought Crisler gave much of a home court advantage because the alumni are just too quiet. For years it was like going to a neutral site or worse like going to the ballet. When Steve Fisher came and created the Maize Rage it definitely got better. The renovation made it better. Moving the donors to best seats makes it worse. At Breslin the ring of students definitely makes it seem louder - at least on TV. I don't think we beat State today because of home court advantage but because Keith got that second foul and Adreian and Gary were just too tired and because Izzo had to do too many things that weren't normal.
The Maize Rage started under Ellerbe, actually. Under Amaker it moved closer to where it sits now.
Breslin is a dump. I've never been impressed.
Even last week's Wisconsin game was loud when we got back in it. Any place will be quiet when you're down by as much as we were early.
I'd say 1. Indiana 2. MSU 3. Michigan 4. Iowa 5. Wisconsin 6. Ohio 7. Minnesota 8. Purdue 9. Nebraska 10. Illinois 11. Northwestern 12. Penn State
Is Crisler a library? No. Is Crisler the loudest, most raucus place in the country or even B1G? No.
Crisler > Breslin. I know this how? Because the Sports Illustrated Kids "Top 10 in Everything Sports" features the Maize Rage as one of the top 10 fanbases across all sports, ahead of even the Izzone and Cameron Crazies, neither of which are on the list. Irrefutable and undisputable proof that Crisler has a better atmosphere than Breslin.
(and yes, I hang out in the B&N kids book section with my daughters)
there is no comparison. I only love going to Crisper because I love Michigan. I live closer to east landing and get free tickets from work to MSU games and there is no comparison in atmosphere. MSU actually has a large student section. what pisses me off kd that we have a maize out and it would look sweet if everyone wore maize but not the case, less than half did. MSU's old fans are a lot louder than our old golf clappers
Ain't nothin' better than the CRISPER!!!
Breslin is okay. The "Stadium" where their "football team" plays is a complete piece of ****. I'd rather hang out in parts of Detroit before I go there again.